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OhFunny posted:The 6900 is supposed to launch today. The employees at the Cambridge Microcenter came out and told the ~30 people camping outside they hadn't received any of the cards in today's delivery according to the Discord channel. "I'm sorry, Mario, but your cards are all in reviewers' hands!" 
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air- posted:Possible 3070ti? Burying the lede here, 3080 Ti launch expected in January. 3070 Ti looks relatively unexceptional although I guess it all depends on pricing. Still 10GB, which I guess is a step up from 3070 tier’s 8GB but still much less than AMD gives you, slotting in a ways below a 3080 unless it clocks exceptionally high (like it’s a TSMC refresh). The real story there is TU103 though. NVIDIA appears to be leading with the down-binned TU103 and will probably be replacing 3080 with TU103 at some point as well. Depending on how they do this, it is possible they could fulfill 3080s out of both TU103 and TU102 for a while. Far from the “Samsung yields suck bro!!!” thing I’m interpreting this as the opposite. Yields are high enough they’re wasting silicon on the 3080, long-term they are killing that TU102 part and using that silicon for 3080 Ti which will be cut down less. Then introducing TU103 to slot in between and eventually switching over to fulfill 3080 out of full TU103 chips. And again yields are good enough there’s no reason to cut the new TU103 down all the way to 3070 levels so they’re introducing 3070 Ti with a smaller trimdown. This is them optimizing for wafer utilization at the expense of yields, this is the opposite of what you would do if you have yield problems, they are trying to cut down each piece of silicon less so they throw away less. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:RX 6900XT reviews are out The TL;DR is it's 5-10% faster than the 6800XT for a 50% increase in cost.
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OhFunny posted:The TL;DR is it's 5-10% faster than the 6800XT for a 50% increase in cost. So like a slightly worse 3090 all over again? Neato.
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Hasturtium posted:So like a slightly worse 3090 all over again? Neato. And still even less available than nvidia's already trash-tier launches were haha
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So am I good leaving my 7 3700x alone with my 3080? Should I be scouring for a 5900x before playing CyberGame2020 or would I be wasting money on diminished returns?
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Xaris posted:You will probably be surprised to learn that you need your flashlight a whole lot less with it off. I played with it on our of stubbornness, but drat if it didn't really wipe out a lot of the detailed static lighting that went into areas as well when I tried turning it off at times and was wowed by the rasterized lighting. A lot of rooms are just completely pitch black but not in a great way. I will say the aurora in the dessert and stuff generally looked better with it on than off. I'm really into computer graphics, so I recognize that I might look at these screenshots differently than many others, but every single screenshot that includes a building interior in that list looks much better with RT on. It's interesting to me that the lighting in the "off" case so immediately stood out as faked, and is even distracting, while others find it a toss up between the two. Notable the non-RT lighting in these screenshots looks very unnatural to me: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...WcwVE51NFdEdXhn https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...WcwVE51NFdEdXhn https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...WcwVE51NFdEdXhn This last one features both shadow acne and light leakage, both unavoidable features when using shadow mapping: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...WcwVE51NFdEdXhn I will agree that for game play purposes, many of the RT shots are too dark, but that seems like a failing with the tone-mapping and exposure which was likely tuned for the static rasterized lighting. I agree that most of the shots that are just an expansive exterior do not benefit as much from the GI, but that's to be expected really. Even there though you sometimes see reflected light giving shadowed areas a much more realistic appearance (and also more interesting, to me). This is all to say that I think it's interesting how some (to me) obvious artifacts of faked GI and shadow mapping are not distracting to most people, even with side by side comparisons.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Burying the lede here, 3080 Ti launch expected in January. *eyes the deadline for my EVGA step-up on February 8, 2021*
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Rolo posted:So am I good leaving my 7 3700x alone with my 3080? Should I be scouring for a 5900x before playing CyberGame2020 or would I be wasting money on diminished returns? too early to say, wait for 3rd party independent reviews, etc., but also unlikely
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gradenko_2000 posted:an RTX 3050. huh. TU107 as well as TU103, yup. That was inevitable though and AMD appears to be readying Small Navi (several in fact) for launch so NVIDIA has to respond as well. Or maybe it’s the other way around, who can tell, point is they like to launch together.
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Minecraft RTX is out of beta, so you can play it online with non-beta-users now https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/1336309900918599681?s=19
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gradenko_2000 posted:an RTX 3050. huh. They had to replace the 1650 with something, and odds are it's a variant of a mobile-targeted design. An RTX 2060-class card without a power connector could be really cool, but hobbling it with 4GB of RAM will suck. That'll be the third consecutive generation after the 1050 Ti and 1650 to have that much, and it started pinching a while ago.
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Rolo posted:So am I good leaving my 7 3700x alone with my 3080? Should I be scouring for a 5900x before playing CyberGame2020 or would I be wasting money on diminished returns? According to benchmarks my Ryzen 2700x is roughly even to the 3080 on CPU/GPU limitation in 1440p non-RT scenarios, so I think there's already some diminishing returns there. This is with a modest 4.2mhz overclock.
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jisforjosh posted:*eyes the deadline for my EVGA step-up on February 8, 2021* I've got 47 days left on mine, I suspect I'm hosed
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Hasturtium posted:They had to replace the 1650 with something, and odds are it's a variant of a mobile-targeted design. An RTX 2060-class card without a power connector could be really cool, but hobbling it with 4GB of RAM will suck. That'll be the third consecutive generation after the 1050 Ti and 1650 to have that much, and it started pinching a while ago. Yeah I'm officially On The Hunt for an RTX 3060Ti as of today but even with this news I won't be eyeing the 3050 because I'm already on 4 GB with the RX 580 and I'll be damned if I'm not getting more after an upgrade
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Rolo posted:So am I good leaving my 7 3700x alone with my 3080? Should I be scouring for a 5900x before playing CyberGame2020 or would I be wasting money on diminished returns? I would just keep the 3700x if unless you are going to do content creation/streaming then consider the 5900x. Tom's Hardware charts are showing the game is more GPU dependent. However, the data is flawed as it is not using the day 1 patch and optimized GPU drivers which could drastically improve when the game launches.
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repiv posted:Minecraft RTX is out of beta, so you can play it online with non-beta-users now My 3060 ti should be getting here Thursday and I guess I'll play this until Cyberpunk gets a few more patches
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BB drop go goons go. !!!!!!!!!!
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Rolo posted:BB drop go goons go. So do you just sit waiting for more inventory doing nothing? Can't even skip with apple pay on the app anymore it looks like 
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On BB you have to spam refresh the store page until you get the yellow Add to Cart option, then mass click on the thing until you get a Please Wait... prompt. DO NOT refresh the page if you get to this step. From there you should be able to get to checkout and hopefully (if you have your billing/shipping info saved) you'll cash out before it gets removed from your cart.
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exquisite tea posted:On BB you have to spam refresh the store page until you get the yellow Add to Cart option, then mass click on the thing until you get a Please Wait... prompt. DO NOT refresh the page if you get to this step. From there you but hey I got to click a yellow button, that was neat.
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exquisite tea posted:On BB you have to spam refresh the store page until you get the yellow Add to Cart option, then mass click on the thing until you get a Please Wait... prompt. DO NOT refresh the page if you get to this step. From there you should be able to get to checkout and hopefully (if you have your billing/shipping info saved) you'll cash out before it gets removed from your cart. I have add to cart buttons on everything, it won't add to cart. I did get one in my cart and then it just said unavailable at your store. Thanks BB!
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this seems like a big drop, they've been trickling out stock for like 15 minutes now. snagged a 3070 FE, that'll hold me until the 3080 ti drops, although if NVIDIA is right that inventory is going to loosen up in the second half of december there may be some loss of resale value, but I guess I can always keep it for a VR pc or whatever edit: holiday return policy at best buy too, must be returned with all packaging and accessory in undamaged condition by Jan 16, if nobody here/none of my friends want it I'll just return it when I'm done, lol thanks for the cyberpunk rental Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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I don't think my part of the west coast got any 3080s, oh well
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In theory I registered very early for an EVGA 3060ti my friend no longer needs but I dunno if the queue is moving yet
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I got a few cards in my cart but it keeps thinking I want to do in store and it won’t let me change to shipping.
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Rolo posted:I got a few cards in my cart but it keeps thinking I want to do in store and it won’t let me change to shipping. it's ship-to-store only to fight bots
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Bestbuy isn't doing shipping for the hot items. I live near at least 10 bestbuys within 250 miles and it wasn't available to pickup anywhere
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try setting a "preferred store" and see if it lets you ship to store, it may be getting stuck because you don't have a preferred store set (BB calls it "my store")
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I think they are doing ship to store, not distributing to random ones, they just go so fast. I don't quite get how they do a semi-queue system and then no one gets them anyway. It seems pretty trivial at that point to do a real queue.
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Rolo posted:BB drop go goons go. I can't even buy the cards in stock because, "pick up isn't available within 250 miles of your location"
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199 non ti? 400 already gets you a card that'll do 1440p/60 and they're allegedly releasing two 3060 models below that.
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Rinkles posted:How much you think a 3050 will go for? The GTX 1050 launched for 109 USD; the GTX 1650 launched for 149 USD My guess is SRP is probably going to be closer to 200 USD, with the 3060 being in the 300 USD range (and the 3060Ti being 400 USD)
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awhile back the Razzlecore pbr pack was broken by a beta update, Emissive blocks stopped emitting light. I wonder if that ever got fixed or if they just expect people to only use rtx in the prebuilt worlds.
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Maybe 3050 $149 3050ti $200 3060 $279 3060 $329 3060ti $400 ?
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hmm, unexpectadly Dell says my PNY 3080 will be here tomorrow instead of 2/2/21; they also refunded me $90 to bring it down to the 749 MSRP I think if the card POSTS and stress tests fine and doesn't make any weird coil whine, I am just going to instantly eBay my Gigabyte 3070 OC for 775 Buy It Now, I feel a little lovely, but, gently caress, I can use the money and it's not like I set out to do this. When I ordered the 3070 I had a 2/2 date on the 3080 and figured when the time came I'd be selling it for ~10% under what I paid. It's still lovely behavior, and I'll feel bad about it as I spend my ill gotten $200 on necessary home repairs 
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