|
Slim Jim Pickens posted:Isn't the soleus just the walking around muscle I think anyone in GiP can tell you that's a very good sign of a career soldier.
|
#
?
Dec 7, 2020 08:30
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 23:21 |
|
|
You get lots of developed solei in cattle-keeping cultures From all the calf raising
|
|
#
?
Dec 7, 2020 18:00
|
|
|
Tunicate posted:my fav is that narwhal they unearthed a few years back that got full formal burial rites "Hey, I got an idea we for a prank we can pull on the future generations that will dig up our graves  "
|
|
#
?
Dec 7, 2020 18:32
|
|
|
Brawnfire posted:You get lots of developed solei in cattle-keeping cultures Moooo 
|
|
#
?
Dec 7, 2020 20:58
|
|
|
Alhazred posted:"Hey, I got an idea we for a prank we can pull on the future generations that will dig up our graves I prefer to believe that narwhal did something loving amazing that they all witnessed and it's a tragedy of the highest order we will never know what.
|
|
#
?
Dec 8, 2020 01:51
|
|
|
Tunicate posted:my fav is that narwhal they unearthed a few years back that got full formal burial rites
|
|
#
?
Dec 8, 2020 01:56
|
|
|
Hey ancient China friends, I am trying to create a role-playing scenario for my class involving ancient China and one of these figures: Qin Shi Huang Confucius Lao Tzu In the game they are trying to keep history from changing and they have an antagonist who is trying to change history. I'm looking for an incident from one of their lives, preferably when they were younger and not famous, when their lives or "destinies" could have changed. For example, a previous scenario was them deciding whether or not to give 20th century medical advice to the doctors of Ogedei Khan in 1241. I like to run the scenario, reveal who the character was, and then go into teaching about them/their influence on China. Anyone got anything interesting related to those guys? Or another incident from ancient China that could have massively changed their history/society? Thanks for any help!
|
|
#
?
Dec 8, 2020 16:19
|
|
|
With Qin we don't know anything for sure about his early life, which makes it hard. There was a failed assassination attempt on him when he was just a minor ruler though.
|
|
#
?
Dec 8, 2020 20:47
|
|
|
Telsa Cola posted:I prefer to believe that narwhal did something loving amazing that they all witnessed and it's a tragedy of the highest order we will never know what. I like to think it led a lost expedition through a perilous path to home
|
|
#
?
Dec 8, 2020 21:06
|
|
|
JonathonSpectre posted:Hey ancient China friends, I am trying to create a role-playing scenario for my class involving ancient China and one of these figures: IIRC Confucius had loads of political enemies, at one point one of them even had him under siege at one point. With Qin Shi Huang, there's the infamous assassination attempts as well as a coup attempt by his own mother and her boyfriend. Another guy to look into using would be Liu Bang, founder of the Han dynasty, who had plenty of adventures and narrow escapes on his journey from peasant to emperor.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2020 03:08
|
|
|
Confucius tried to restore his nominal overlord, the Duke of Lu, to power over the objections of the most powerful landed families. He didn’t get very far with it and had to go into exile, in the course of which he publicized his opinions all through the warring states. So you might be able to do something interesting with a Confucius who found political success, but not so much a wide hearing. Laozi isn’t exactly a historical figure, more like a philosophical character with a god bolted on after the fact, so it’s kind of hard to do this sort of thing with him. sullat posted:Another guy to look into using would be Liu Bang, founder of the Han dynasty, who had plenty of adventures and narrow escapes on his journey from peasant to emperor. This would be a good one. You could also do a lot of stuff around the Three Kingdoms/collapse of the Han. Cao Cao’s failed attempt to assassinate Dong Zhuo would be great but is (iirc) ahistorical, but you could do something like “what if Cao Cao won Red Cliff” or what have you.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2020 03:38
|
|
|
What ancient culture would have had the best barbecues? Also I'm curious if anyone can think of any specific ancient foods/dishes that are still really good and worth trying to make nowadays.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 07:04
|
|
|
Kanine posted:What ancient culture would have had the best barbecues? Polynesia? I think they were the origin or at least a major practitioner of pit roasted pork?
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 07:40
|
|
|
Stringent posted:Polynesia? I think they were the origin or at least a major practitioner of pit roasted pork? The Taíno in the Caribbean too, who in fact were the origin of the term "barbecue" via the Spanish "barbacoa".
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 13:21
|
|
|
Kanine posted:What ancient culture would have had the best barbecues? I've been working from an ancient Roman/Greek cookbook, and one dish that was super simple but also tasty was coriander-crusted whitefish. Basically you coarsely grind up a couple of tablespoons of coriander seed, mix it with a bit of salt, and coat the fish with it. Then you bake the fish, ideally covered, until it's cooked. To serve, you mix wine vinegar 1:1 with fish sauce and sprinkle it over the fish. (The coriander can be a bit dry otherwise.) This is a fun blog to check out if you're interested in ancient Roman cookery: http://pass-the-garum.blogspot.com/search/label/Recipes This one is fun if you want to go even further back, to the earliest known recipe book: https://twitter.com/Moudhy/status/1261227596672630785
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 13:38
|
|
|
India likely has some pretty dope ancient food dishes. Pibil is loving delicious though you'd have to substitute out the pork and citrus and stuff. I recommend you substitute the pork out for paca as it's really loving close/better than pork. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Dec 10, 2020 |
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 14:47
|
|
|
Kanine posted:What ancient culture would have had the best barbecues? Obviously the Celtic roasted boar. It would be nice with some music to go with the feast, but apparently that was often suppressed.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 15:04
|
|
|
*Carnyx solo*
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 15:09
|
|
|
Who wants to read about new, decent-quality mosaics being laid in Britain well into the 5th Century, courtesy of my old stomping ground? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/10/stunning-dark-ages-mosaic-found-at-roman-villa-in-cotswolds
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 15:32
|
|
|
sebzilla posted:Who wants to read about new, decent-quality mosaics being laid in Britain well into the 5th Century, courtesy of my old stomping ground? Yeah, but 10+ years into the American Decline people were still building copies of Versailles on land that everyone knew would be underwater in 50 years. Rich people are loving weird. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 15:35
|
|
|
The sea people demand their tribute.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 15:40
|
|
|
This is why I support Caligula. He's the only emperor who ever had the guts to take on Neptune for stealing our land!
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 16:11
|
|
|
Aren't most lentil dishes pretty ancient in origin? Like, simmering lentils and some vegetables with spices?
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 16:28
|
|
|
I would love to see the ancients try our modern dishes with ingredients from around the globe. Both the haute cuisine and the trashiest.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 16:31
|
|
|
Edgar Allen Ho posted:I would love to see the ancients try our modern dishes with ingredients from around the globe. Both the haute cuisine and the trashiest. Cheeseburgers would be a big hit almost everywhere.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 16:37
|
|
|
Anything with tomatoes, corn, eggplant, avocado, or potatoes in it would be a total novelty to everybody in Europe, Africa, or Asia before the "Columbian exchange" of plants and animals in the 15th century. Give an ancient Greek or Roman person some Mexican food just to see their reaction. Or introduce a native American to anything with citrus or apples.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 16:46
|
|
|
Elderbean posted:Aren't most lentil dishes pretty ancient in origin? Like, simmering lentils and some vegetables with spices? Would they be the same? And the same with the spices and so on. 2000+ years of selective breeding probably makes them pretty different even in places they're native to, right?
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 16:59
|
|
|
Edgar Allen Ho posted:I would love to see the ancients try our modern dishes with ingredients from around the globe. Both the haute cuisine and the trashiest. There are still plenty of people living in fairly isolated agrarian communities with very limited diets. And almost as many youtube channels where they review fast food.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 17:07
|
|
|
mossyfisk posted:There are still plenty of people living in fairly isolated agrarian communities with very limited diets. Sure would be nice if capitalism could make my dream happen and also feed a lot of people (for the likes and subscribes) but I'm not getting my hopes up. Also, if I'm a roman circa 220BCE what's the closest thing I've had to a chili pepper? Coating my food in black pepper?
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 17:13
|
|
|
I believe they would've used long pepper more than the peppercorns we use today. They also had horseradish for spice, although that's a but different of a heat.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 17:19
|
|
|
Imagine giving one of those gimmicky hot sauces that's 5 million on the Scoville scale to a medieval peasant. They'd probably die instantly.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 17:21
|
|
|
The opposite is also amazing to think about. What's Cato the Younger's take on tomato being a staple of roman cuisine in 2020? Is Diocletian pleased that barbarous germans and their offspring love cabbages more than anyone else ever will?
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 17:29
|
|
|
FreudianSlippers posted:Imagine giving one of those gimmicky hot sauces that's 5 million on the Scoville scale to a medieval peasant. Those dinguses died of things like "surprise at ventriloquism" and "dancing too much" so yeah probably
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 17:52
|
|
|
sebzilla posted:Those dinguses died of things like "surprise at ventriloquism" and "dancing too much" so yeah probably Here lies 'ol Baldrick. Thought of tabasco and died.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 17:53
|
|
|
Edgar Allen Ho posted:Sure would be nice if capitalism could make my dream happen and also feed a lot of people (for the likes and subscribes) but I'm not getting my hopes up. I wasn't positing a hypothetical, I was suggesting you go watch some of those videos. It's not exactly time travel obviously, but it's the closest you'll get.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 18:10
|
|
|
Edgar Allen Ho posted:Is Diocletian pleased that barbarous germans and their offspring love cabbages more than anyone else ever will? No, he would feel incredible shame at his descendants and people, that they dismiss such a wonder. (seriously cabbages are really good)
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 18:10
|
|
|
Stuffed cabbage is delicious.Koramei posted:Would they be the same? And the same with the spices and so on. 2000+ years of selective breeding probably makes them pretty different even in places they're native to, right? Absolutely, but it's still a dish that's been around for a long time in some form. Lentil soup was eaten in Sumer, Egypt, and Greece for sure. Elderbean fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Dec 10, 2020 |
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 18:14
|
|
|
Edgar Allen Ho posted:Also, if I'm a roman circa 220BCE what's the closest thing I've had to a chili pepper? Coating my food in black pepper? Black/long pepper, yeah.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 19:22
|
|
|
 Is that line about the Roman Emperors adopting instead of just having their children succeed them true? I guess I just always assumed it was dynastic, sons got the seat of power and stuff. Granted, I have no real knowledge of Roman Emperors beyond random trivia from assorted places. So my bad for assuming. When did this habit stop and why?
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 20:30
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 23:21 |
|
|
Well it's true in the sense that the five good emperor's before Marcus all adopted the next emperor, the four previous ones also had no children, and then once Marcus had one he left the empire to him. Unfortunately that son was commodus.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2020 20:38
|
|