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Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

If we're voting for capital based on how miserable it is, the Scottish People's Republic will be seated in Cumbernauld.

(e) First Greater Glasgow Route 46 runs from Easterhouse - Castlemilk, both of which would also be strong shouts for misery.

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ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
https://twitter.com/UKVolkswagen/status/1336276412752343040

Renault, etc. have all made quiet announcements on pre-Brexit price protection offers, but I think this is the first customer-targeted ad I've seen. I expect we will see more shortly.

Advice seems to be to also check for a reassurance that the car is actually already physically in Great Britain lest it be stuck in a port somewhere pending a "whoops, here's a refund, please make a new purchase (subject to new tax)" decision - although no apparent way to ensure that this assurance is actually true...

ronya fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Dec 9, 2020

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!

Sanitary Naptime posted:

I just think that if Scotland has to exist then we should have the capital outside of Edinburgh, it needs taken down a peg.

If the People’s Republic of Strathclyde exists then I guess Aberdeen or Dundee can be the capital of whatever inferior state remains of Scotland.

Aberdeen deserves it imo

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

Sanitary Naptime posted:

This is missing an independent Strathclyde and I’m disappointed in you for its absence :colbert:

That's not how you spell Glasgow. Ayrshire can take Paisley the rest of the Renfrewshires, thank you very much. We'll work some sort of Gibraltar thing out for the airport.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Turned on BBC News while I was waiting for the kettle to boil.
First thing I see - literally - is Michael Gove saying "...once we take back control of our laws..."

I really, really hate that oval office

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

https://twitter.com/SheridanDani/status/1336539586407915522?s=20

This is funny because of how pleased the industry were about the supposed increases announced the other week.

It’s even funnier because they are saying they will save money by not sending the carrier to the states. Except they couldn’t have anyway, it’s laid up for 6 months because it sprung another leak.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Niric posted:

That's not how you spell Glasgow. Ayrshire can take Paisley the rest of the Renfrewshires, thank you very much. We'll work some sort of Gibraltar thing out for the airport.

Airports. Remember there is Glasgow airport and Glasgow Prestwick.
(I used to fly into Prestwick before they removed the route.)

Also Amazon has been sending emails to Irish customers yesterday saying that prices will be effected for people in Ireland ordering stuff from Amazon.co.uk.

The thinking is while Amazon is saying this they will wait until the New Years to launch an Amazon.ie

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

The Question IRL posted:

Airports. Remember there is Glasgow airport and Glasgow Prestwick.
(I used to fly into Prestwick before they removed the route.)

Prestwick airport is so weird. Fun fact, Glasgow Prestwick is only 5 miles closer to Glasgow city centre than Edinburgh airport. It's really quite insane that the Greater Glasgow area (population 1.2ish million) is served by 3 international airports all less than an hour away. Which is possibly why all three are pretty pokey airports and Prestwick has been losing money for a very long time IIRC

What I'm saying is, bulldoze Falkirk and build a single hub airport instead. Keep the wheel though, that's pretty cool.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

The Question IRL posted:

Also Amazon has been sending emails to Irish customers yesterday saying that prices will be effected for people in Ireland ordering stuff from Amazon.co.uk.


Got that same email yesterday. "Returning stuff that's not broken? Hope you like customs fees"

Only mildly annoying because UK is a handy component in the Amazon game, where for example UK and NL have it, DE doesn't, FR has it but twice the price, and it ships from Germany anyway.

But then I'm trying to use them less, so meh

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

https://twitter.com/SheridanDani/status/1336539586407915522?s=20
It’s even funnier because they are saying they will save money by not sending the carrier to the states. Except they couldn’t have anyway, it’s laid up for 6 months because it sprung another leak.

I have to wonder what idiots built the thing - I know modern ships are complex and all - but for the love of god, people have been building ships that don't leak for millenia! during world war II they cranked out liberty ships daily.

If it was drydocked because the state of the art mcguffin was causing issues with the doohickyatron, I could understand, but (to paraphrase a quote) the primary function of a ship is to remain above water!

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



He's back, baby. In pog form.


Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

yeah, but they were building ships designed to accomplish real world tasks. our modern ships are designed to be very expensive to funnel public money into private hands

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Lovely

https://twitter.com/liamstack/status/1336335661201145857

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Grey Hunter posted:

I have to wonder what idiots built the thing - I know modern ships are complex and all - but for the love of god, people have been building ships that don't leak for millenia! during world war II they cranked out liberty ships daily.

If it was drydocked because the state of the art mcguffin was causing issues with the doohickyatron, I could understand, but (to paraphrase a quote) the primary function of a ship is to remain above water!

The US navy contracted a bunch of shipbuilding to a company who did stuff like use steel impeller housings in an aluminium structure, dissimilar metals in electrical contact and also in seawater, leading to very rapid galvanic corrosion from electrolysis. The hulls were completely unseaworthy in less than a year. And all for the low low price of seven hundred million dollars, ignoring the fact that the cathodic protection system to prevent exactly this from happening was cut to save on build cost.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

The Question IRL posted:

The thinking is while Amazon is saying this they will wait until the New Years to launch an Amazon.ie

Is that the thinking? I've been wondering. They definitely already have warehouse fulfilment capacity in Ireland for some products, so it would be logical, though I don't really see how it's advantageous to wait until January

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Sanitary Naptime posted:

This is missing an independent Strathclyde and I’m disappointed in you for its absence :colbert:

E: also, cede Edinburgh to Northumbria. It’s rightfully theirs.
It's just the NUTS-1 regions that were the basis for the defunct regional assemblies, but it's fun that the narrative has gone from "there's too many divisions" to "there's not enough divisions."

The Question IRL posted:

The thinking is while Amazon is saying this they will wait until the New Years to launch an Amazon.ie
It's strange that they haven't already, isn't the .co.uk registered in Dublin?

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...


Martin should still be wearing a mask even after being vaccinated.

https://twitter.com/apoorva_nyc/status/1336333757708554241?s=19

Failed Imagineer posted:

Is that the thinking? I've been wondering. They definitely already have warehouse fulfilment capacity in Ireland for some products, so it would be logical, though I don't really see how it's advantageous to wait until January

I can't find the Tweet now but someone was saying that Amazin has built some new data centres and warehouses in Ireland and that it has trucks driving around under the branding of Zeus instead of Amazon. (Geddit.)

I'm guessing they are waiting to see how Brexit negotiations go before pulling the trigger.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I remember arguing with remainers who insisted that 2nd ref wasn't a remain position lol it was neutral

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

kecske posted:

The US navy contracted a bunch of shipbuilding to a company who did stuff like use steel impeller housings in an aluminium structure, dissimilar metals in electrical contact and also in seawater, leading to very rapid galvanic corrosion from electrolysis. The hulls were completely unseaworthy in less than a year. And all for the low low price of seven hundred million dollars, ignoring the fact that the cathodic protection system to prevent exactly this from happening was cut to save on build cost.

Dabir posted:

yeah, but they were building ships designed to accomplish real world tasks. our modern ships are designed to be very expensive to funnel public money into private hands

Yeah, I should rephrase that.

What idiots let us get into a situation where a government can blow millions/billions on things that don't work, while lining their, and their mates/families pockets.

looks at voting population.
goddamn it.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
It's a net benefit for the world if our aircraft carriers don't work.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

The Question IRL posted:

Martin should still be wearing a mask even after being vaccinated.

https://twitter.com/apoorva_nyc/status/1336333757708554241?s=19



Good luck. Here in Wales no one wears them and funnily enough cases are rising rapidly.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ronya posted:

https://twitter.com/UKVolkswagen/status/1336276412752343040

Renault, etc. have all made quiet announcements on pre-Brexit price protection offers, but I think this is the first customer-targeted ad I've seen. I expect we will see more shortly.

Advice seems to be to also check for a reassurance that the car is actually already physically in Great Britain lest it be stuck in a port somewhere pending a "whoops, here's a refund, please make a new purchase (subject to new tax)" decision - although no apparent way to ensure that this assurance is actually true...

The fact that the inverse of this will definitely be true, but the hardcore arse over in tea types will absolutely claim the opposite is just so depressing.

Like, 100% from Jan 1st there WILL be tarriffs on all these cars, but all the poppyfuckers will be trotting this tweet out until kingdom come trying to claim there won't.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

the worry that the americans might not bother including us with their new nukes is also quite funny, especially in how we can’t use them independently anyway

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

kecske posted:

The US navy contracted a bunch of shipbuilding to a company who did stuff like use steel impeller housings in an aluminium structure, dissimilar metals in electrical contact and also in seawater, leading to very rapid galvanic corrosion from electrolysis. The hulls were completely unseaworthy in less than a year. And all for the low low price of seven hundred million dollars, ignoring the fact that the cathodic protection system to prevent exactly this from happening was cut to save on build cost.

IIRC it was even more complex/dumber than that.

Because the requirement was "Needs to be quick, maneuverable, and work well in shallow waters" they asked a company that normally specialises in fast ferries to do the actual building. A sacrificial anode wouldn't actually have worked particularly well because of the sheer surface area, but if you can electrically isolate the two components you slow the reaction right down - you just have to remember to properly inspect and maintain that insulation. There are hundreds of boats out there using exactly that system with no problems at all. But...

The background was - much like the Royal Navy - the US Navy loving *loves* going "Okay all of our boats are too big and expensive for mission <a>, we need a simple, cheap boat for it" (in this case inshore patrol and support) then going "Oh yeah it also has to be able to do x, y and z" because it turns out there are lots of missions that the big expensive boats are too big and expensive for, with the end result being a boat that can't do any of those missions and even if it could it would be too big and expensive. So even while the boat was being built the USN were already like "Actually, gently caress it, we've changed our mind" meaning that the boat was mothballed and tied up as soon as it completed shakedown tests.

Because it was just sitting there - and allegedly the USN didn't earth it properly while it was connected to shore power - the corrosion happened far, far faster than expected, leaving the USN saying the builder didn't install the insulation properly and the builder saying that even if that were true, checking that insulation is literally item number one on the maintenance schedule and the USN should have noticed and corrected it. Further complicating this for FREE MARKET EFFICIENCY reasons is that the actual maintenance was outsourced to a company that was part of the consortium building a competing boat.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
Makes sense she'd cook Surf given, y'know, her presence brings the....
https://twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1336424114664464387

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

StarkingBarfish posted:

Makes sense she'd cook Surf given, y'know, her presence brings the....
https://twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1336424114664464387

the only thing I can comprehend about this post is that it has an awful person in it

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

in a similar vein to expensive military white elephants, it is going to be funny when trump 2.0 decides to cut the u.k. off from the new nukes and kills our trident program anyway

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Regarde Aduck posted:

Good luck. Here in Wales no one wears them and funnily enough cases are rising rapidly.
Most people are wearing them here in Swansea & we're looking pretty hosed & all :shrug: Could be because everyone's wearing them to go do their Christmas shopping in loving great crowds though tbf

Semi-related, I had to go into town last week, something that's really been grating on me: I'm hearing all these casual mentions on the news of how it's young people doing the spreading vs old people being very sensible. Guaranteed when you see someone being a right div they're over 60. The amount of times I stopped to casually look in a shop window & when I turned around there'd be some unmasked pensioner stood 4 loving inches from my face.

One bloke walked right into me, then gave me a friendly clasp on the back whilst he said sorry :coronatoot:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Not our independent deterrent!!

Actually, losing our 'independent' nuclear weapons because the US decided it wasn't going to supply or support them any more would cause some hilarious cognitive dissonance among the flag-waving sector of the population.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Dabir posted:

the only thing I can comprehend about this post is that it has an awful person in it

Surf 'n' turf is a mainly US dish where you combine seafood (surf) and steak (turf) on the same platter. The joke is, being a terf already, she only needs to do the surf.

It's a reach. Also I've almost certainly been beaten to this explanation because I didn't bother to refresh.

E: Not beaten :toot:

vv lmao I hope that's something she wrote somewhere

Maugrim fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Dec 9, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

StarkingBarfish posted:

Makes sense she'd cook Surf given, y'know, her presence brings the....
https://twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1336424114664464387
Everything she posts should be responded to with

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

goddamnedtwisto posted:

IIRC it was even more complex/dumber than that.

Because the requirement was "Needs to be quick, maneuverable, and work well in shallow waters" they asked a company that normally specialises in fast ferries to do the actual building. A sacrificial anode wouldn't actually have worked particularly well because of the sheer surface area, but if you can electrically isolate the two components you slow the reaction right down - you just have to remember to properly inspect and maintain that insulation. There are hundreds of boats out there using exactly that system with no problems at all. But...

The background was - much like the Royal Navy - the US Navy loving *loves* going "Okay all of our boats are too big and expensive for mission <a>, we need a simple, cheap boat for it" (in this case inshore patrol and support) then going "Oh yeah it also has to be able to do x, y and z" because it turns out there are lots of missions that the big expensive boats are too big and expensive for, with the end result being a boat that can't do any of those missions and even if it could it would be too big and expensive. So even while the boat was being built the USN were already like "Actually, gently caress it, we've changed our mind" meaning that the boat was mothballed and tied up as soon as it completed shakedown tests.

Because it was just sitting there - and allegedly the USN didn't earth it properly while it was connected to shore power - the corrosion happened far, far faster than expected, leaving the USN saying the builder didn't install the insulation properly and the builder saying that even if that were true, checking that insulation is literally item number one on the maintenance schedule and the USN should have noticed and corrected it. Further complicating this for FREE MARKET EFFICIENCY reasons is that the actual maintenance was outsourced to a company that was part of the consortium building a competing boat.

And now i want to watch pentagon wars again....

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

thespaceinvader posted:

The fact that the inverse of this will definitely be true, but the hardcore arse over in tea types will absolutely claim the opposite is just so depressing.

Like, 100% from Jan 1st there WILL be tarriffs on all these cars, but all the poppyfuckers will be trotting this tweet out until kingdom come trying to claim there won't.

note the price protection offer is on cars bought before 5.30pm Dec 31 (but delivered after) - in the braveexit new world there'll be tariffs, it's not denying that

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jel Shaker posted:

in a similar vein to expensive military white elephants, it is going to be funny when trump 2.0 decides to cut the u.k. off from the new nukes and kills our trident program anyway

We already build our own "physics package" (god I love the banality of jargon). The only thing that will happen if the Yanks pull the W93 (either deciding not to build it, or for some reason refusing to give AWE access to "learn from" (i.e. copy) it) is that UK Trident will only be 10 times more destructive than every weapon ever used in the history of warfare, not 15 times more.

Obviously if the Americans do decide to back out of the technology sharing agreement altogether we lose access to the actual Trident missiles then yeah, our INDEPENDENT NUCLEAR DETERRENT defaults back to this:



(Incidentally the longer Brexit goes on the more I'm convinced this film, the Bed Sitting Room, will be closer to how a post-nuclear Britain would end up than Threads - just people wandering the wasteland still trying to pretend all of the institutions and ways of life are still there and important. You've got a bloke walking around in burned evening dress with a television frame (the BBC), these two are our nuclear forces, and of course the national anthem is now "God Bless Mrs. Ethel Shroake")

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ronya posted:

note the price protection offer is on cars bought before 5.30pm Dec 31 (but delivered after) - in the braveexit new world there'll be tariffs, it's not denying that

Yes that's my point.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

"physics package" (god I love the banality of jargon).
The funniest thing is that this is used to describe anything self contained that uses atomic physics somehow, the bit that reliably goes bzzzz in an atomic clock and the bit that goes bang in an atomic bomb are both called physics packages.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

The funniest thing is that this is used to describe anything self contained that uses atomic physics somehow, the bit that reliably goes bzzzz in an atomic clock and the bit that goes bang in an atomic bomb are both called physics packages.

Schrodinger's cat was in a physics package too. Actually a pissed off cat being let out of a box would probably be one of the more effective weapons in our arsenal, and only a 50% failure rate too.

e: And because I've now mentioned Spike Milligan and nukes, it's reminded me of the bit in Milligan's war memoirs where one of his fellow troops is annoyed at "wasting" the atom bomb on the Japanese and says they should have dropped old gas stoves full of dog poo poo on them instead.

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Dec 9, 2020

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:


It's strange that they haven't already, isn't the .co.uk registered in Dublin?

But it's always been like this.

Even Ebay back in the early 2000's had a separate Ebay.ie setup and running. But the Irish have always had to use Amazon.co.uk

And even then we got a reduced service. Products on the website would randomly not be orderable for Ireland.
Like I could order a laptop worth a grand, but not order certain electronics like TV's*.

And don't get me started on Amazon Prime Video. The UK version of Prime Video was much worse than the US version. But the Irish version was even worse.
About 5 years ago I did a months free trial of Prime Video because I wanted to watch American Gods and Bosch.
At the time the UK version didn't have American Gods and even though they had Bosch on the banner for Prime Video it wasn't available in Ireland.

If I had to guess Amazon never made an Irish site because they made marginally more money on currency exchanges on Irish people ordering items in GBP instead of Euro and kept it running for that reason.


* = But crucially they would ship a PS5 from the UK to Ireland.
I was lucky enough to get one in November when they went live on Amazon.co.uk and no doubt denied an English scalper a Playstation.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
At least they apologized for the Troubles.

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StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

goddamnedtwisto posted:

old gas stoves full of dog poo poo on them instead.

In awe at the destructive potential of this. Multiple Independent Re-entry AGAs each with an 80kiloturd yield. No-one would mess with you.

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