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Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

T-man posted:

i'm pressing X and doubting

anywhere that had bison can have dairy cattle

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MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/news4buffalo/status/1336430397786349569

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Abongination posted:

I've been learning to kill and dress sheep and chickens recently as its a valuable skill to know and we're aiming at being totally self sufficient.

If you're gonna eat meat, the most sustainable way to do so is via animals you raise and butcher yourself.

Def not everyone's cup of tea though

Those water studies linked earlier said that (at least for cows) that's actually the absolute worst way to raise em', water-wise anyway. I guess it's cancelled out though in that it's significantly more of a pain in the rear end on your part so you'll wind up using way less cow product in general.

Gorson posted:

My parents and their friends used to create hours and hours of drinking time by giving us kids a piece of fishing line, a hook, and some raw bacon to single catch crayfish. The trick was to float above them on an air mattress and lure them out from their hiding spots with the bacon. They would take it and not let go, allowing you to drag them up high enough to scoop with a net. I got really freaking good at it and there was always a competition to see who could get the biggest one but this would be a very difficult and inefficient way to find sustenance when it's much easier to trap them by the hundreds with an old refrigerator or whatever.

When I was a kid me and the neighbor kid would just like, go down and grab em' with our bare hands, cuz they lived in the ditch near his house and were easy to catch. Then we would pretend they were pokeymans.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Bismuth posted:

Goats are the best and I wont eat them out

mixed signals here

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Peanut President posted:

anywhere that had bison can have dairy cattle

im glad to hear the climate hasn't changed whatsoever nor has human habitation affected your magical cow having Vallaha

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

e-dt
Sep 16, 2019

steinrokkan posted:

You always hear that exposure to meat production would make the public less likely to buy it, but then the people who actually grew up / worked on farms usually don't have greater empathy for animals, to the contrary they are almost always even more jaded and utilitarian in their relationship to livestock than the alienated masses.

anecdotal data: my old agriculture teacher was a vegetarian

AvesPKS
Sep 26, 2004

I don't dance unless I'm totally wasted.

Gorson posted:

My parents and their friends used to create hours and hours of drinking time by giving us kids a piece of fishing line, a hook, and some raw bacon to single catch crayfish. The trick was to float above them on an air mattress and lure them out from their hiding spots with the bacon. They would take it and not let go, allowing you to drag them up high enough to scoop with a net. I got really freaking good at it and there was always a competition to see who could get the biggest one but this would be a very difficult and inefficient way to find sustenance when it's much easier to trap them by the hundreds with an old refrigerator or whatever.

Yeah I mean emptying a crab pot is probably easier, but licenses for those are akin to NY City taxi medallions and a bit hard to come by. But anyone with a regular license can run a thousand feet of trot line.

Gods_Butthole posted:

That sounds hella fun

It really is

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Oh huh didn't see this coming

https://twitter.com/freep/status/1334833344501182464

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


https://twitter.com/melissastclair7/status/1334834477680496640

Everyone boycott just the companies that don't care about their employees, how many could that be, like 3? 4?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Shame Boy posted:

https://twitter.com/melissastclair7/status/1334834477680496640

Everyone boycott just the companies that don't care about their employees, how many could that be, like 3? 4?

Also there are large parts of the country where if you're boycotting Walmart and Kroger you're probably not eating tonight

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

This person's just kinda confusing:

https://twitter.com/ABoleynGirl/status/1334838286787997698

Did a nurse spit in your coffee or something

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Lmao this dude:

https://twitter.com/jbyars/status/1334841398567251968

Yeah man, imagine how good Detroit's loving economy would be if this PLANDEMIC hadn't shut down all the small businesses!

From elsewhere on his twitter feed, he seems to just post daily horoscopes, generic chud things, and whatever the hell this means:

https://twitter.com/jbyars/status/1333957972431613952

Like I want to think he's just barely starting to grasp the idea that the only form of economic mobility anymore is downwards, but I think he's just saying "universities are churning out HISTORY MAJORS!!!" or whatever.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Shame Boy posted:

Lmao this dude:

https://twitter.com/jbyars/status/1334841398567251968

Yeah man, imagine how good Detroit's loving economy would be if this PLANDEMIC hadn't shut down all the small businesses!

From elsewhere on his twitter feed, he seems to just post daily horoscopes, generic chud things, and whatever the hell this means:

https://twitter.com/jbyars/status/1333957972431613952

Like I want to think he's just barely starting to grasp the idea that the only form of economic mobility anymore is downwards, but I think he's just saying "universities are churning out HISTORY MAJORS!!!" or whatever.

kroger et al killed the small businesses a long time ago

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007


We must protect these brave companies from their evil, irresponsible employees who choose to come in to work and get sick or die. :chud:

https://twitter.com/RepKatiePorter/status/1336484553435697160
https://twitter.com/RepKatiePorter/status/1336484555201470465

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

martin sheen doing his west wing schtick for one of those rx coupon services is just :discourse: imo

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Lib and let die posted:

martin sheen doing his west wing schtick for one of those rx coupon services is just :discourse: imo

lmao link me I wanna see president Bartlett’s stately endorsement

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

Lib and let die posted:

martin sheen doing his west wing schtick for one of those rx coupon services is just :discourse: imo

i rewatched the dead zone the other day and i totally forgot martin sheen plays a proto-trump character in it

tmfc
Sep 28, 2006

World War Mammories posted:

lmao link me I wanna see president Bartlett’s stately endorsement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF3yi41gfgA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjoWXLTCmNY

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006



lmao :kiss:

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Cold on a Cob posted:

i rewatched the dead zone the other day and i totally forgot martin sheen plays a proto-trump character in it

it's a shame you only get like, momentary flashforwards of him being full Trump, but it's pretty entertaining as a counterpoint to his Sorkin years. Plus some great Christopher Walken line-reads

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

T-man posted:

im glad to hear the climate hasn't changed whatsoever nor has human habitation affected your magical cow having Vallaha

yeah it's pretty "poggers" as the kids say

Colonel J
Jan 3, 2008

Gods_Butthole posted:

I hope one day to murder a chicken myself. I've spent my whole life eating meat. Many chickens have been murdered for my nutritional benefit. I feel some kind of obligation to first-hand experience the death that up till now I have only participated in in the abstract. I do not feel that it is justifiable to eat the flesh of animals if I am unable and unwilling to do the deed myself.







Plus it would be a good opportunity for some "choking the chicken" jokes.

A few years ago, a friend and I killed, dressed and ate a bird. That event was a big contributor to me going vegan not too long after. I felt ashamed that we took its life for a couple miserable pieces of meat. It's not like we were going hungry, we had plenty of food.

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Lib and let die posted:

martin sheen doing his west wing schtick for one of those rx coupon services is just :discourse: imo

and yet still more helpful to me than obamacare.

tmfc
Sep 28, 2006

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4AnXKaiDm0

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




https://twitter.com/ursulakleguin/status/1336401455348133895

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

TBF if Le Guin came back to life just to shill some leggings it'd be one hell of a marketing campaign

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
I think that's basically the plot of the 3rd earthsea novel

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


Lmao this seems like the perfect way to build up tolerance to those drugs that make drinking unpleasant as fast as possible

Their website is pretty great too:

https://lifebac.com/





30 million people won't seek treatment for their alcoholism, because then they'd have to give up alcohol, can't argue with that.

quote:

The Disease Model can even be harmful
It labels people “alcoholics” for life and creates undue shame and stigma around seeking help when most people who over-drink aren't alcoholics and simply want to drink less.

I'm definitely not an alcoholic I just somehow can't stop drinking alcohol it's different shut up.

quote:

It's not the alcohol...
Alcohol overindulgence is related to the same neurological reward pathways as gambling, sex, food, and porn.5 Addiction is in the brain, not the substance. 20% of returning soldiers from Vietnam identified themselves as heroin addicts upon being shipped home. 95% of them successfully discontinued heroin use upon returning. This video from Johanne Hari exposes the myth of the “chemical hook”

Yep chemical dependence is a myth of the liberal media and when I was going through hell getting off opiates I was just pretending for fun.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

So the actual drug they're pushing is baclofen

Wikipedia posted:

Discontinuation of baclofen can be associated with a withdrawal syndrome which resembles benzodiazepine withdrawal and alcohol withdrawal.
...
Withdrawal symptoms may include auditory hallucinations, visual hallucinations, tactile hallucinations, delusions, confusion, agitation, delirium, disorientation, fluctuation of consciousness, insomnia, dizziness, nausea, inattention, memory impairments, perceptual disturbances, itching, anxiety, depersonalization, hypertonia, hyperthermia (higher than normal temperature without infection), formal thought disorder, psychosis, mania, mood disturbances, restlessness, and behavioral disturbances, tachycardia, seizures, tremors, autonomic dysfunction, hyperpyrexia (fever), extreme muscle rigidity resembling neuroleptic malignant syndrome and rebound spasticity.

Great!

quote:

In his 2008 book, Le Dernier Verre (translated literally as The Last Glass or The End of my Addiction), French-American cardiologist Olivier Ameisen described how he treated his alcoholism with baclofen. Inspired by this book, an anonymous donor gave $750,000 to the University of Amsterdam in the Netherlands to initiate a clinical trial of high-dose baclofen, which Ameisen had called for since 2004.[24] The trial concluded, "Neither low nor high doses of baclofen were effective in the treatment of [alcohol dependence]. Adverse events were frequent, although generally mild and transient. Therefore, large-scale prescription of baclofen for the treatment of AD seems premature and should be reconsidered."[25]
...
Baclofen is being studied for the treatment of alcoholism.[11] Evidence as of 2019 is not conclusive enough to recommend its use for this purpose.

Oh also it doesn't work. Good luck!

e: Oh the lifebac website actually talks about Oliver Ameisen, but not the follow-up study, weird I'm sure they just forgot

Shame Boy has issued a correction as of 18:10 on Dec 10, 2020

Minion of Freya
Jan 2, 2017
They wisely skipped step 8

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Well, we can't have universal health care, so what if we gamified sobriety?

It's hosed up that the best we can do for most alcoholics is essentially mutual aid that's heavily religious and full of creepo dudes.

Mill Village
Jul 27, 2007


I’m really surprised they didn’t mention Albertsons. They basically followed what Kroger did when it came to hazard pay and bonuses. This week we got a bonus of $100 for part timers and $200 for full timers for our hard work from May to November. Its laughable compared to what other companies have paid their employees.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
Every dollar that American's would otherwise be spending taking their kids to get a lovely burger at Applebee's is going to take-out places and supermarkets, no poo poo they're raking in record profits. They basically absorbed an entire industry.

I think one of my friends who works at Whole Foods got a temporary $2 / hour pay raise that expired months ago. They also gave her no paid time off after she had a baby last month and are on the verge of firing her if she doesn't pick up hours again soon

raspurtin
Apr 18, 2005

We should be encouraging the development of new recreational drugs to replace the old problematic drugs in our lives. Drugs that make you feel nice and loose and pro-social, but don't leave a hangover or develop dependencies. Maybe if you take too much, you just fall asleep before you can OD. You could also develop mild hallucinogens that give you a trippy visual experience for a few hours, then wears off gently, no harsh comedown. Fun for a party or a concert or a night at home staring at swarms of spiders on the ceiling with the whole family. Save the heavy entheogens for guided therapy sessions.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Shame Boy posted:

Lmao this seems like the perfect way to build up tolerance to those drugs that make drinking unpleasant as fast as possible

Their website is pretty great too:

https://lifebac.com/





30 million people won't seek treatment for their alcoholism, because then they'd have to give up alcohol, can't argue with that.


I'm definitely not an alcoholic I just somehow can't stop drinking alcohol it's different shut up.


Yep chemical dependence is a myth of the liberal media and when I was going through hell getting off opiates I was just pretending for fun.
This ad is probably for bullshit snake oil, but the way we treat addiction in this country is absolutely loving insane.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008




Slavoj Zizek, "First as Tragedy, Then as Farce posted:

Our most elementary experience of subjectivity is that of the "richness of my inner life": this is what I "really am;' in contrast to the symbolic determinations and responsibilities I assume in public life (as father, professor, etc.). The first lesson of psychoanalysis here is that this "richness of inner life" is fundamentally fake: it is a screen, a false distance, whose function is, as it were, to save my appearance, to render palpable (accessible to my imaginary narcissism) my true social-symbolic identity. One of the ways to practise the critique of ideology is therefore to invent strategies for unmasking this hypocrisy of the "inner life" and its "sincere" emotions. The experience we have of our lives from within, the story we tell ourselves about ourselves in order to account for what we are doing, is thus a lie--the truth lies rather outside, in what we do.

[...]

For exam­ple, in Jan­u­ary 2003, the IDF demol­ished the house of the fam­i­ly of a sus­pect­ed ter­ror­ist. They did it with accen­tu­at­ed kind­ness, even help­ing the fam­i­ly to move the fur­ni­ture out before destroy­ing the house with a bull­doz­er. A sim­i­lar inci­dent was report­ed a lit­tle bit ear­li­er in the Israeli press. When an Israeli sol­dier was search­ing a Pales­tin­ian house for sus­pects, the moth­er of the fam­i­ly called her daugh­ter by her name in order to calm her down, and the sur­prised sol­dier learned that the fright­ened girl’s name was the same as his own daughter’s. In a sen­ti­men­tal upsurge, he pulled out his wal­let and showed her pic­ture to the Pales­tin­ian mother.

It is easy to dis­cern the fal­si­ty of such a ges­ture of empa­thy: The notion that, in spite of polit­i­cal dif­fer­ences, we are all human beings with the same loves and wor­ries, neu­tral­izes the impact of what the sol­dier is effec­tive­ly doing at that moment. The only prop­er reply of the moth­er should be to demand that the sol­dier address this ques­tion: ​“If you real­ly are human like me, why are you doing what you are doing now?”

Dave Concepcion
Mar 19, 2012

raspurtin posted:

We should be encouraging the development of new recreational drugs to replace the old problematic drugs in our lives. Drugs that make you feel nice and loose and pro-social, but don't leave a hangover or develop dependencies. Maybe if you take too much, you just fall asleep before you can OD. You could also develop mild hallucinogens that give you a trippy visual experience for a few hours, then wears off gently, no harsh comedown. Fun for a party or a concert or a night at home staring at swarms of spiders on the ceiling with the whole family. Save the heavy entheogens for guided therapy sessions.

you’re pretty much describing a low dose of lsd, shrooms or 2CB

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dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


yeah I was about to say, mild hallucinogens exist and they're just hallucinogens you take less of

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