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Frond
Mar 12, 2018
https://twitter.com/lijianrong64/status/1326161196731432960

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Frond
Mar 12, 2018
https://twitter.com/lijianrong64/status/1326161318114549764

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Belardi Closes Its Doors

https://racer.com/2020/11/10/belardi-auto-racing-closes-its-doors/

rip

Helio to Run 6 Races in 2nd Shank Car

https://racer.com/2020/11/09/castroneves-to-make-part-time-indycar-return-with-msr-in-2021/

wb

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

CBJSprague24 posted:

Is TK a potential option to run the oval races in the CGR 48? Given that this year was ovals only for him and that ride will probably be very "trophy or steering wheel" given there's not one driver going for a championship, it seems like it could be a good match.

https://twitter.com/TonyKanaan/status/1330897459569192961

Yes.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Couple of seasons. Huh.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind
I wonder what the conversations between TK and Helio are like at this point.

quote:


Helio: I'm coming back for six races next season!

TK: Oh yeah? I'm coming back for six races for the next two seasons!!!

Helio: Well I have three Indy 500s! You only have one!!!!

TK: At least I won a championship without any help in the cockpit :smug:


Ah, those two. Bugs in a rug, they are.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
https://the-race.com/formula-1/ital...racing%20again.

race or two world 2 when

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

WindyMan posted:

I wonder what the conversations between TK and Helio are like at this point.


Ah, those two. Bugs in a rug, they are.

"Actually, you won two. Paul Tracy won the third."

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
Penske is starting an Indy Lights team for Black American drivers, finally.

https://racer.com/2020/12/03/penske-backed-force-indy-team-set-for-usf2000/

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.
Isn't it just USF2000 for now? It's not an Indy Lights team yet, but it's a good start. I've heard that particular rung of the ladder can be quite a meat grinder, so someone with a Penske team backing them probably stands a good chance of distinguishing themselves if they've got the talent for open wheel racing.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Well, USF 2000, which is 2 rungs below Lights, kinda fits in the realm of F4, but it's a very good thing, especially since there's no real back talent at any other point in the ladder, so starting at the beginning will be the best way to get them in.

Glad to see it bearing meaningful fruit. This is very good news.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
https://twitter.com/A_S12/status/1335230726019702784

no suprise

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


I would assume literally no one on earth expected them to.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Basticle posted:

I would assume literally no one on earth expected them to.

There was some logic to it because if they don't explore other series the biggest F1 teams are going to have to downsize under the new budget cap.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

your friend wicka posted:

There was some logic to it because if they don't explore other series the biggest F1 teams are going to have to downsize under the new budget cap.

looking forward to an announcement in June 2021 about a Ferrari car for the Hypercar class in WEC/Le Mans, then.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

your friend wicka posted:

There was some logic to it because if they don't explore other series the biggest F1 teams are going to have to downsize under the new budget cap.

Yeah, since they didn't want to fire people. I think there strategy will just be saying that they are using those excess people to look how they can expand lol.

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/...paign=widget-22

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

They probably figure it would be wise to figure out how to build a competitive F1 engine before they start spreading themselves thin.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

sportsgenius86 posted:

They probably figure it would be wise to figure out how to build a competitive F1 engine before they start spreading themselves thin.

they had a competitive engine! It just wasn't legal! :downs:

again they will have resources (people and budget) that will not be allowed to go to Formula 1 in a few years; unless they want to trim headcount, they have to find projects for those people to do. IndyCar looked like a decent shout, but I wasn't convinced that they'd want to be a supplier for multiple teams or run a chassis that everyone has to run as spec. (there's not much collector cachet in a Dallara running a 2.2 turbo V6 with Ferrari cam covers). at a certain point, there might not be enough from an engineering standpoint.

I think they'll make a hypercar for Le Mans, because it fits what they need and how they want to manage their motorsports. They won't have to share the chassis if they go Hypercar, it can be connected to their road products, everything will be balanced, and they can still have something to sell to collectors once they're done running.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
From what I understand, Italy has some sort of laws against large layoffs that mean the budget cuts make them essentially *have* to go do something else somewhere. WEC makes more sense than indycar for Ferrari. Sports car racing has always been more focused on upmarket brands than Indycar.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

From what I understand, Italy has some sort of laws against large layoffs that mean the budget cuts make them essentially *have* to go do something else somewhere. WEC makes more sense than indycar for Ferrari. Sports car racing has always been more focused on upmarket brands than Indycar.

True, but at the same time I would not rule them out doing a more Judd/Lotus style thing to try to win the 500.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

NEWZZZ ROUNDUP

Looks like Ferrucci is out at Coyne, oh no we are all so sad about it aw shucks dang shucks aw heck shoot

https://racer.com/2020/12/07/ferrucci-tipped-for-20-race-xfinity-deal/


Herta, not Hinch, taking the #26 with Gainbridge sponsorship, who reupped on a multi year deal. #88 is continuing, imagine thats still Hinchs seat to lose.

https://racer.com/2020/12/08/herta-switching-to-andrettis-gainbridge-backed-no-26/


Askew looking at IMSA

https://racer.com/2020/12/08/askew-looking-towards-imsa-for-a-reboot/


Donald Davidson retiring, who is the guy that has all those insanely cool indy 500 facts.

https://racer.com/2020/12/07/davidson-indys-living-encyclopedia-to-retire/

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

real monkey's paw situation with ferrucci here

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari

Askew did a pretty good job this year didn't he?

I feel like he did, but I wasn't paying close enough attention to be sure.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Cygni posted:

Herta, not Hinch, taking the #26 with Gainbridge sponsorship, who reupped on a multi year deal. #88 is continuing, imagine thats still Hinchs seat to lose.

https://racer.com/2020/12/08/herta-switching-to-andrettis-gainbridge-backed-no-26/

The sponsorship is likely tied to a “Andretti ride,” which the 26 is, regardless of where the shop is located that 88 was a co-owning deal. I would guess that’s where Hinch lands.

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.

Custard Undies posted:

Askew did a pretty good job this year didn't he?

I feel like he did, but I wasn't paying close enough attention to be sure.

Nope. He came in 3rd at Iowa race 1, had two other top 10s (Iowa 2 and Texas), and that's it. His teammate had more than double the points, and I think the only other full timers he beat were Marco and Veach. Pretty sure he had a concussion after his Indy 500 wreck that he never fully recovered from, what with Helio standing in later in the season and all. It definitely felt to me like his seat was in jeopardy considering the stark contrast to O'Ward's results. Still, I'm sorry to see him cut loose so quickly.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





He definitely had a concussion that he raced with for a bit, and I recall him having a few Jack Harvey style races where he was running up front for a good chunk of the race without much to show by the end.

Apparently SPAM was extremely unhappy with things said about the team when he went public with his injury, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was ultimately the biggest reason he got cut.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

harperdc posted:

The sponsorship is likely tied to a “Andretti ride,” which the 26 is, regardless of where the shop is located that 88 was a co-owning deal. I would guess that’s where Hinch lands.

The Gainbridge sponsorship was tied to Veach specifically (Veach personally sold the CEO on the sport as a whole), and then expired after the season. Andretti was able to pry Veach off the deal and get them to re-up to cover Colton's salary. Good maneuvering by Andretti.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


IOwnCalculus posted:

He definitely had a concussion that he raced with for a bit, and I recall him having a few Jack Harvey style races where he was running up front for a good chunk of the race without much to show by the end.

Apparently SPAM was extremely unhappy with things said about the team when he went public with his injury, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was ultimately the biggest reason he got cut.

I thought I heard he hid the concussion from them for awhile and they weren't happy about that either.

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari

Ok, that's right I remember all that now. Forgot about the concussion.

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.

IOwnCalculus posted:

He definitely had a concussion that he raced with for a bit, and I recall him having a few Jack Harvey style races where he was running up front for a good chunk of the race without much to show by the end.

Apparently SPAM was extremely unhappy with things said about the team when he went public with his injury, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was ultimately the biggest reason he got cut.

I keep hearing that about a bad press statement, but I haven't found out what exactly that was. And yeah, there are definitely times where drivers like Askew were running out front and mixing it up with veterans of the sport, which shows some of their talent in a rookie year like this, but unfortunately that's no substitute for scoring points. If he could get funding and find another open seat, I'm sure a second season of Indycar would be good for Oliver.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Yeah, i think Askew absolutely has the talent for a ride, but he doesn't bring cash so hes gonna have a tough time with the seats that are left.

Sadly he might end up one of the many many guys that ends up with a sportscar career because they ran out of cash after the rookie indycar year.

I feel especially bad for him because he had some poo poo happen that was totally outside of his control. But thats how it goes. Coyne's got two empty seats, one with some money... we will see.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Marshall Pruett pretty solidly pinned it on the interview he did with the AP about his concussion. Said SPAM is the most vain team on the grid (see also: hinch getting fired for the ESPN thing), and they absolutely will yeet you for making them look bad. Poor performance in the season outside of his few good results compared to Pato certainly didn't help.

I hope he finds his feet running prototypes in IMSA and comes back. It did wonders for Pato, just having loads of seat time in a downforce car for hours and hours in endurance races to build experience and racecraft.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
yeah, tbf lying to a team about that in 2020 is not a good look

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Said SPAM is the most vain team on the grid (see also: hinch getting fired for the ESPN thing)

Apparently Arrow didn't like his Body Issue photoshoot. I can't even imagine having such poor marketing instincts.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno

your friend wicka posted:

Apparently Arrow didn't like his Body Issue photoshoot. I can't even imagine having such poor marketing instincts.

That was the ESPN thing, yes

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


MazeOfTzeentch posted:

That was the ESPN thing, yes

Ah I thought you meant there was something else too. Regardless, if your team employs James Hinchcliffe and he's mostly nude in a major publication, your only concern should be warming up the money printing machine.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


WELCOME HOME FRIEND

https://twitter.com/ArrowMcLarenSP/status/1336687752050511874

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


That ESPN poo poo (losing your ride because a loving corporation was embarrased by you being naked near their logo) was possibly the dumbest poo poo to happen in motorsports in the last decade.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Basticle posted:

That ESPN poo poo (losing your ride because a loving corporation was embarrased by you being naked near their logo) was possibly the dumbest poo poo to happen in motorsports in the last decade.

It's up there but I still have to go with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbeIzxl_CSo&t=6004s

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gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak


I don't think anything can be worse than the milk gimp.

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