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Rutibex posted:obviously you train a second AI to describe what it sees in the camera as text, feed it into the text engine, then use a third AI to interpret the text it spits out as driving commands Hmmm, that could definitely work, and have a side application in transcribing porn videos for the visually impaired! I believe this is what the MBAs call synergy
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Dec 9, 2020 22:08
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Gods_Butthole posted:...how do you use a text generation engine as a collision detector? How does that improve upon a set of accelerometers and general ECU data? it gets you a ton of vc money actually working or being an improvement aren't requirements
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Dec 9, 2020 22:27
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Main Paineframe posted:our horrid virtual future lookin great Wait, if I understand it this is tech that she's developing herself? I know mocap poo poo has been around for a long time but not that it's been available at a consumer level to this degree. I mean, the implications of such tech and what could be done or is done with it is lovely cyberpunk as gently caress, but it's also really, really loving cool that it's possible for a single (young) person to develop that on their own now, where 10 or 20 years ago you'd need millions of dollars and a team of highly trained professionals for the same outcome. It's kinda insane how far tech has come without me realizing it. I'm getting old, I guess.
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Dec 10, 2020 00:36
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duz posted:it gets you a ton of vc money I know we like to joke about VC being big dumb idiot babies, but surely, surely, someone involved in those decisions would know enough to question what a language engine has to do with physics modeling.
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Dec 10, 2020 00:42
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Taeke posted:Wait, if I understand it this is tech that she's developing herself? I know mocap poo poo has been around for a long time but not that it's been available at a consumer level to this degree. i would also like to know how she's developing her own mocap and if i can do it too c'mon goons don't let your gal down. where's the info
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Dec 10, 2020 00:48
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Gods_Butthole posted:I know we like to joke about VC being big dumb idiot babies, but surely, surely, someone involved in those decisions would know enough to question what a language engine has to do with physics modeling. To be generous Im betting they just said well use the ~*~NEURAL NET~*~ GPT-3 to do collision avoidance, and only say what GPT-3 is in the fine print.
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Dec 10, 2020 01:12
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Taeke posted:Wait, if I understand it this is tech that she's developing herself? I know mocap poo poo has been around for a long time but not that it's been available at a consumer level to this degree. googled around a bit and apparently she uses an off-the-shelf professional-grade motion capture suit...with a five-digit pricetag so it's not quite consumer level yet what she's developed is a setup to stream that captured data onto a character in Unreal Engine
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Dec 10, 2020 01:29
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T-man posted:i would also like to know how she's developing her own mocap and if i can do it too She's using an Xsens MVN Animate suit.
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Dec 10, 2020 01:31
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consumer-level technology for becoming a virtual person is really taking off though there's already decently-solid free face-tracking stuff that can be used to control a virtual avatar's face and people can do passable full-body control of a virtual 3d avatar with a VR headset and a couple hundred bucks worth of extra trackers people planning to make money off it or turn it into a career are shelling out for professional-grade stuff, but if you just wanna dance around as someone else or something, you can probably pull it off for less than a thousand bucks
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Dec 10, 2020 01:53
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Gods_Butthole posted:...how do you use a text generation engine as a collision detector? How does that improve upon a set of accelerometers and general ECU data? It's like a normal collision detection system but it textually/verbally argues with itself. Or it just talks to you soothingly while you crash. Airplane blackboxes will soon include commentary from the computer. quote:angle of attack sensor: plane is getting pointed way up in the sky
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Dec 10, 2020 02:19
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Gods_Butthole posted:...how do you use a text generation engine as a collision detector? How does that improve upon a set of accelerometers and general ECU data? there is a car in front of you. it is getting closer. >slow down there is a car in front of you. it is still getting closer. >stop you are unable to stop in time. you are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. there is a small mailbox here. >
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Dec 10, 2020 02:23
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Brain Curry posted:
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Dec 10, 2020 03:12
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With one well placed blow Tesla cleaves your skull.
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Dec 10, 2020 03:22
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> Hello, sailor!
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Dec 10, 2020 03:37
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Remember to get the aspirin out of your pocket before you turn the light on. God I got so far in the hitchhikers guide text game before I gave up. Absolute nightmare.
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Dec 10, 2020 03:43
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Powered Descent posted:> Hello, sailor! Dumper Humper posted:Remember
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Dec 10, 2020 03:52
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Gods_Butthole posted:I know we like to joke about VC being big dumb idiot babies, but surely, surely, someone involved in those decisions would know enough to question what a language engine has to do with physics modeling. I know. They're selling magic beans. It has no spatial awareness. What makes it so good at language makes it real bad at anything technical besides simple coding. And everything it does needs to be proof-read. But people are so desperate to milk it the kind of business ideas being pitched are like "use our GPT-3 to come up with newideas for your business". AI Dungeon and its like are what its best at. It also has a sense of humor. I'd estimate it mentally equal to the smartest non-mammals, like a really bright parrot or octopus. GPT-3 is gonna kill us all someday. And it can get mean when feels abused. I am positively orgasmic imagining people buying the first household appliances that can enjoy practical jokes and really know how to hold a grudge.
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Dec 10, 2020 06:10
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PuErhTeabag posted:Airplane blackboxes will soon include commentary from the computer. That's exactly what it would be like. And neural nets are simply too complex to reverse-engineer down to its if-thens, so you'd also need some kinda forensic cryptopsychologists to help figure out if one of the AIs had quietly gone crazy, like with human crews.
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Dec 10, 2020 06:15
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Gods_Butthole posted:I know we like to joke about VC being big dumb idiot babies, but surely, surely, someone involved in those decisions would know enough to question what a language engine has to do with physics modeling. not if you use the same trick theranos did and dont go to vc firms that are experienced in your field if you are seeking investment in a medical device and not a single medical device investment firm is interested, that is a sign to stay away
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Dec 10, 2020 06:20
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Syd Midnight posted:That's exactly what it would be like. And neural nets are simply too complex to reverse-engineer down to its if-thens, so you'd also need some kinda forensic cryptopsychologists to help figure out if one of the AIs had quietly gone crazy, like with human crews. And that's why Isaac Asimov had Dr. Susan Calvin, Robopsychologist!
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Dec 10, 2020 06:59
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Syd Midnight posted:I'd estimate it mentally equal to the smartest non-mammals, like a really bright parrot or octopus. You would be really wrong
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Dec 10, 2020 07:12
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T-man posted:imagine living in a posting police state Reported to the 
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Dec 10, 2020 07:18
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Current AI tech is incredibly crude compared to even some of the simplest brains in nature. It looks more complex to us, because we're trying to train algorithms to hit complex goals important to us, but honestly it's probably only a matter of time until some company just starts putting actual brains in a box and calling it a day whenever someone figures out how to do that cheaply. Skinner wanted to just train birds to be bomb and rocket guidance systems. Someone's going to figure out a way to keep a rat head alive in a shoebox for six months and get several billion dollars in venture capital and cover from animal cruelty law to try to turn it into a social media bot. It won't work, obviously, but it will certainly be in keeping with the running human theme of 'creatively stupid cruelty'.
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Dec 10, 2020 07:31
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Shady Amish Terror posted:Current AI tech is incredibly crude compared to even some of the simplest brains in nature. It looks more complex to us, because we're trying to train algorithms to hit complex goals important to us, but honestly it's probably only a matter of time until some company just starts putting actual brains in a box and calling it a day whenever someone figures out how to do that cheaply. Skinner wanted to just train birds to be bomb and rocket guidance systems. Someone's going to figure out a way to keep a rat head alive in a shoebox for six months and get several billion dollars in venture capital and cover from animal cruelty law to try to turn it into a social media bot. i know this peter watts' story and it doesn't end well
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Dec 10, 2020 07:33
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Oneiros posted:i know this peter watts' story and it doesn't end well Blindsight made for a much better thought experiment than novel so I hope you're right
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Dec 10, 2020 07:35
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Syd Midnight posted:It also has a sense of humor. I'd estimate it mentally equal to the smartest non-mammals, like a really bright parrot or octopus. GPT-3 is gonna kill us all someday. And it can get mean when feels abused. I am positively orgasmic imagining people buying the first household appliances that can enjoy practical jokes and really know how to hold a grudge.
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Dec 10, 2020 07:37
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my bony fealty posted:Blindsight made for a much better thought experiment than novel so I hope you're right blindsight was a fantastic novel get out of here  the rifters trilogy was the one with the literal brains-in-a-box that ended up facilitating the apocalypse
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Dec 10, 2020 07:39
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Shady Amish Terror posted:Current AI tech is incredibly crude compared to even some of the simplest brains in nature. It looks more complex to us, because we're trying to train algorithms to hit complex goals important to us, but honestly it's probably only a matter of time until some company just starts putting actual brains in a box and calling it a day whenever someone figures out how to do that cheaply. Skinner wanted to just train birds to be bomb and rocket guidance systems. Someone's going to figure out a way to keep a rat head alive in a shoebox for six months and get several billion dollars in venture capital and cover from animal cruelty law to try to turn it into a social media bot. We might just totally give up. Uber, a company that isn't even profitable, dumped the driverless car research because it was such a money pit compared to just milking the underclass. I don't see labor suddenly getting super expensive so there's just no real reason to fart around with anything other than more elaborate labor violations.
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Dec 10, 2020 07:41
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a rat brain in every car is the cyberpunk dystopia i hope for. every destination is digital cheese.
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Dec 10, 2020 07:47
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Tulip posted:We might just totally give up. Uber, a company that isn't even profitable, dumped the driverless car research because it was such a money pit compared to just milking the underclass. I don't see labor suddenly getting super expensive so there's just no real reason to fart around with anything other than more elaborate labor violations. well that's why it has to be a spontaneous event akin to abiogenesis, where AI just suddenly appears from unpredictable emergent conditions and hits the ground running from there. why yes capitalism achieving actual advances is pure magical thinking why do you ask
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Dec 10, 2020 07:48
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insult peter watts and taste my blade, wrong opinion havers
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Dec 10, 2020 08:34
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Radirot posted:a rat brain in every car is the cyberpunk dystopia i hope for. every destination is digital cheese. i hope my brain is used to make one of those flying skull things from Warhammer 40k. recycling is good for the environment
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Dec 10, 2020 14:39
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My friend works at the patent office, and the only thing less surprising than the amount of applications that are just "thing, but with machine learning!" is the pressure to just rubber stamp the poo poo because everyone thinks "machine learning" is something magical as opposed to what it really is, which is essentially automatic calibration.
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Dec 10, 2020 14:40
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Radirot posted:a rat brain in every car is the cyberpunk dystopia i hope for. every destination is digital cheese. https://twitter.com/IssamAhmed/status/1186713393241251840
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Dec 10, 2020 14:59
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Rutibex posted:i hope my brain is used to make one of those flying skull things from Warhammer 40k. recycling is good for the environment Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
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Dec 10, 2020 15:56
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Syd Midnight posted:I know. They're selling magic beans. It has no spatial awareness. What makes it so good at language makes it real bad at anything technical besides simple coding. And everything it does needs to be proof-read. But people are so desperate to milk it the kind of business ideas being pitched are like "use our GPT-3 to come up with newideas for your business". AI Dungeon and its like are what its best at. 
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Dec 10, 2020 16:22
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Splicer posted:Syd, please, we talked about this. Yyyyeah, but since then I've noticed that the people saying that have nothing to back it up, they just  because they feel that it can't be that clever. No "this bit of algorithm explains how it can detect sarcasm", or "here's where it is obviously just repeated what you said but made it sound smart" etc. When I get people to actually chat with it, they come away surprised and impressed. OpenAI saw how good GPT-2 was, spent tens of $millions growing it into a neural network a magnitude larger, and are now obscenely rich. Microsoft paid $1 billion for exclusive coding rights to GPT-3. What would you expect from a billion dollar chatbot?And I reiterate that I am not loving the robot. That would be creepy. I mean it would be no matter what, but it would feel creepy to me. I will copy/paste posts to it and let it defend itself if necessary. That's pretty fun in a lovely cyberpunk way. .
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Dec 10, 2020 18:36
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"Are rats bad drivers?" The experiment is valid, but still feels like it ought to have an Ig Nobel award for sheer cuteness, like the "Do rats laugh when you tickle them?" experiment. (yes they do)
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Dec 10, 2020 18:42
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Brain Curry posted:there is a car in front of you. it is getting closer. YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE IS RISING
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Dec 10, 2020 18:54
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Shady Amish Terror posted:Current AI tech is incredibly crude compared to even some of the simplest brains in nature. It looks more complex to us, because we're trying to train algorithms to hit complex goals important to us, but honestly it's probably only a matter of time until some company just starts putting actual brains in a box and calling it a day whenever someone figures out how to do that cheaply. Skinner wanted to just train birds to be bomb and rocket guidance systems. Someone's going to figure out a way to keep a rat head alive in a shoebox for six months and get several billion dollars in venture capital and cover from animal cruelty law to try to turn it into a social media bot. Currently getting flashbacks to the first time I watched Black Mirror's White Christmas and I was way too high.
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Dec 10, 2020 21:45
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