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No.1 Special
Apr 4, 2011
Maggie Mae Fish - How to Make a Martha || Zack Snyder, Part 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RflVJW_MRbs

The last one.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

ButterSkeleton posted:

I'm totally gunna come off as an rear end on this, but looking into the replies, I'm kinda annoyed at Patrick Klepek because he seems like the whitest dude ever and he's asking people to DM him epilepsy stories.

I get it, but something about a cis white guy doing that kinda stuff rubs me the wrong way.

klepek has issues and he does alot of dumb poo poo but this isnt the worst thing. least he is trying to do something productive.


Nuebot posted:

Epilepsy is something that doesn't really give a poo poo about your race, gender, sex, or pretty much any other facet of your identity. People across the globe can get it and suffer from it, a lot of people can get hit by it and literally never know or realize what it is because we, as a sort of increasingly media reliant culture, have a weirdly specific and usually joke-focused definition of what epilepsy and seizures are (people watch cartoons, fall down flailing wildly and comically) and the majority of people will probably go through life without ever encountering a seizure or even knowing an epileptic personally even though there are certain types of non-dangerous epileptic activity that are fairly common in a lot of the population. All most people know about this poo poo tends to come from things like The Simpsons which had one episode that jokes about anime causing seizures. And the hosed up thing? Any epileptic who doesn't like being made light of like that just gets told to shut the gently caress up and stop being a bitch. Just like with the recent cyberpunk controversy where tons of people I, otherwise, thought were cool and respectable couldn't wait to prove just how much they loving hated people who's brains are broken.

It's something that doesn't get reported about, often, and a ton of people are very ignorant about to the point where there's this massive almost insultingly myopic view about epileptics where even people in progressive spaces just have zero sympathy or empathy for us. I see arguments like "Well if you ignore the warning signs whatever happens is your own fault" and it's just a really callous and exhausting one because basically every facet of your life is potentially seizure triggering unless you wear a blindfold all day and sleep perfectly every night in a hyperbaric chamber or some other absurd poo poo like that because it's an absurdly varied and individual disability to have. Know what the number one thing that makes me feel dizzy and faint is? The sun. Specifically morning sun, the way it flashes behind trees, poles and other things when riding in a bus or other vehicle. For years that made getting to school or work an absolute nightmare because sometimes I'd arrive borderline incoherent and most people would just shrug their shoulders and tell me that was my own problem (I, in fact, failed phys ed. because my school didn't give a poo poo about what my doctor said). There's nothing I can do about that except try to work my life around that poo poo and I was lucky enough to be diagnosed when I was young so I've had decades to adjust and adapt to a fairly restrictive life in regards to garbage like that. For people who get diagnosed later in life, it's very difficult to adapt because depending on the severity they might well have to treat every day like they're made of glass now and if anything goes wrong the entire world is ready to just tell them to gently caress off it's their own fault. It's really, really, hosed up how lovely people are to epileptics and diabetics, yo.

Here's a personal anecdote about just how much this poo poo sucks: I was diagnosed at thirteen. I had just started learning how to drive, because I'd have been able to get my learners in the next few years, and was really excited to finally have a car and be able to drive. But my seizures were hard hitting and we didn't know what triggered them right away, so unless we could figure that out and get them under control (in my state at least it's something like two years seizure free and owning your own car and having a driver's license is pretty key to a poo poo ton of jobs in America, even if you don't need them for that job - boy howdy let me tell you how fun it is to try and get a job when you have neither of these things.) then I'd just flat out never be able to drive. So that was one hopeful dream smashed. Movies? Video games? Watching TV? Even browsing the internet? Well again, depending on what set off the seizures and whether or not we could find a medication that would get them under control I would either not be able to do these things at all or would have to do so in a severely limited fashion lest I be risking my life every time I wanted to look at fun jpgs. Oh and stress and exhaustion exacerbated my new condition and made me even more prone to seizures. Know what makes me real stressed and exhausted? Having all of my hobbies potentially hacked away from my life and having to spend the next few decades structuring my life around a heavily restricted schedule and public transit. Any time I had a seizure my doctor blamed me for it. I wasn't following the restrictions, I wasn't taking my medication, I wasn't doing it right. But the medication didn't work. I kept saying this, it didn't loving work. It just made me sick. Seizures kept coming, and since no one loving listens to an epileptic, they just blame us, I got to spend a good few years getting worse and worse until I could finally, legally, make my own medical choices and find a doctor who would listen to me. Even then it took us another five years to find a medication that works because that's just the joy of epilepsy. My current medication, and as far as we know the only thing that works, destroys my bones though. I now have to take five different medications just to stop my ribs from shattering at the most mild of impacts, it's just a loving horror show down there now, not a single one lines up with another anymore. Oh, and during all of this? I had no one to talk to. No one who gave a poo poo. Because Epilepsiy is a funny joke! Pretty much anyone who found out in real life spaces would immediately try to start flashing the nearest light switch. People online would start sending gifs and youtube links.

I say all of this because holy gently caress, if the reaction to that cyberpunk thing proved anything it's that we desperately need more people to report on epilepsy. Because, still, people don't give a poo poo about epileptics. Our experiences are ignored and dismissed, even when it's about our own reactions and experiences. People continually look for excuses to blame us for what happens and the sheer disdain shown for something we literally have no control over is not only disgusting, but depressing. We deserve to have fun too, and we deserve to be treated with respect like anyone else. But at best people just kind of treat us like we don't exist. Because when they do, it's just as a joke or active dislike.

sucks goon friend. gamers/internet people are sacks of poo poo in general and people with disabilities always get the poo poo end of the stick.

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

The absolute loving peak of this whole saga was Destiny forgetting/not knowing how personalized trends on Twitter work and accusing RL of gangstalking him by making LSAT trend.

The fact that he didn’t have a cheat sheet at hand is quite funny.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaSF3YyqLfE

Raycevick talks about the reasons why game file sizes are insanely large, and surprise, major pushers for them being so big come down to anti consumer practices.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

No.1 Special posted:

Maggie Mae Fish - How to Make a Martha || Zack Snyder, Part 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RflVJW_MRbs

The last one.

Hopefully

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

No.1 Special posted:

Maggie Mae Fish - How to Make a Martha || Zack Snyder, Part 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RflVJW_MRbs

The last one.

I thought this one was pretty good, most of its focus centered on the gender dynamics in Snyder's films which while a well trod subject is still nice to see more takes on.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013


Couldn't happen to a nicer collection of neck hair.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Dec 10, 2020

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



please don't post minion memes in this thread

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

Kim Justice posted:

Which take is worse: Being mad at Patrick Klepek for following the basic tasks of his job, or calling Mia Mulder bougie for complaining about being woken up by jackhammers in the morning?

Half the thread took up arms against Mia Mulder and it dragged on forever. This is dumber in insolation but it'll be a flash in the pan compared to that.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Sleep is a bougie concept anyway. Real proles stay productive 24-hours a day.

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


Ghostlight posted:

please don't post minion memes in this thread

what about the Goomba memes I made to replace minions in a moment of early isolation madness in march

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

ButterSkeleton posted:

I have a predisposition against super white rear end journalists who write articles about the suffering of others. In this case the article work definitely isn't a race/gender thing, but the approach is still white as hell. Sitting at home and collecting stories in DMs is IMO the safest, whitest poo poo on the planet.

So basically you don't like him cause the color of his skin?

JordanKai posted:

https://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1336710426420269058

These days you'll get arrested and thrown in jail just for saying you failed the LSAT.

I like how he made that account to evade his ban until he got so heated it became impossible to not notice its him. Expecting him to set up a new account in a 6-7 months again.

Archer666 fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Dec 10, 2020

egg tats
Apr 3, 2010
I also just want to point out that Patrick has been specifically writing about accessibility in games for years now, so him looking for examples of when epilepsy has and has not been considered is both normal and, like, expected. the fact that one of the biggest games of the year hosed up this bad is a good chance to shine a light on the history of this specific wing of accessibility

or maybe, secretly, his white cis brain is just running low on misery porn

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
It was bad take but the bad taker apologized. The rest of you don't have to keep on dancing in the end zone. At this point it's just boring

Clerical Terrors
Apr 24, 2016

I'm so tired, I'm so very tired
Speedrun competition idea: Destiny vs. Sargon getting banned from Twitter on alt.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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No.1 Special posted:

The last one.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains

I am sure one ZachSnyder video somewhere explains why he didnt cover this scene in the movie.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Nucleic Acids posted:

The fact that he didn’t have a cheat sheet at hand is quite funny.

You cheated not only the LSAT, but yourself.

You didn't grow.
You didn't improve.
You took a shortcut and gained nothing.

You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.

It's sad that you don't know the difference.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Jeremy Parish put out a video on Final Fantasy Legend II, and since the Gameboy SaGa/Final Fantasy Legend compilation is out in less than a week that's some excellent timing on his part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9n-BzSYWAs

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



Srice posted:

Jeremy Parish put out a video on Final Fantasy Legend II, and since the Gameboy SaGa/Final Fantasy Legend compilation is out in less than a week that's some excellent timing on his part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9n-BzSYWAs

He specifically moved this video ahead of schedule to coincide with the release.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Takoluka posted:

He specifically moved this video ahead of schedule to coincide with the release.

I'm hype.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

nine-gear crow posted:



Couldn't happen to a nicer collection of neck hair.

What happened?

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Dawgstar posted:

What happened?

Uber driver sucked him off.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Dawgstar posted:

What happened?

I mean, on the whole he's a miserable psycho who makes like fifty videos screaming about the same 'WOMAN SAID THING!!!!! AAAAAAAAAA!!!!!' thing.

In this case he got very mad that a reviewer gave Cyberpunk a 7 (the bastard, how can small indie studio CDPR recover from that savaging) and in her negatives she said things like 'a lot of the side stuff is just kinda meaningless to do and actually feels really disconnected from the main story, so at a point I just stopped doing them', and 'the customization/hacking stuff feels extremely tacked on, I hardly used it when the game didn't make me'. So naturally this means she didn't really even play the game and is just LYING to hurt your best friend the Polish game studio who can't stop mocking minorities.

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
I'm always amazed at the inability of the gamers rise up crew to even come up with a decent excuse for why they do their harassment.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Aef0SArYM

SF Debris is going for a New Vegas run.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
Speaking of Cyberpunk, CDPR tapped Kurzgesagt to talk about mind uploading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b33NTAuF5E

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

sexpig by night posted:

I mean, on the whole he's a miserable psycho who makes like fifty videos screaming about the same 'WOMAN SAID THING!!!!! AAAAAAAAAA!!!!!' thing.

In this case he got very mad that a reviewer gave Cyberpunk a 7 (the bastard, how can small indie studio CDPR recover from that savaging) and in her negatives she said things like 'a lot of the side stuff is just kinda meaningless to do and actually feels really disconnected from the main story, so at a point I just stopped doing them', and 'the customization/hacking stuff feels extremely tacked on, I hardly used it when the game didn't make me'. So naturally this means she didn't really even play the game and is just LYING to hurt your best friend the Polish game studio who can't stop mocking minorities.

It's extra-great because like every review of Cyberpunk 2077 is saying the same thing, but some are just more willing to ignore/forgive it for the plethora of bugs and awful graphical issues from the rushed release, the RPG elements being fairly shallow and often lacking any punch or meaningful story heft, the frankly silly levels of grinding you'd need to buy any expensive vehicles or cyberware, the pointlessness of crafting and trying to pick any gear besides a clownsuit of the best statted equipment you have, etc. Maybe the mechanical stuff will get all banged into shape with post-release patches in a year or two and the writing will be smoothed out by subsequent DLCs, but there's certainly a number of writing and design choices that are worth analyzing in a game that came out under-baked right now.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

sexpig by night posted:

...in her negatives she said things like 'a lot of the side stuff is just kinda meaningless to do and actually feels really disconnected from the main story, so at a point I just stopped doing them', and 'the customization/hacking stuff feels extremely tacked on, I hardly used it when the game didn't make me'.

I watched a couple people stream it yesterday and this was very much my take away. Even if you took out all the glitches and terrible performance issues due to poor optimization, the game offers itself up with a ton of customization options that don't actually impact anything at all. They put in the effort to have multiple backstories but all of them are at best five minutes long before you team up with Jackie in an identical montage and the game proper starts, it's not even on the level of Dragon Age 1 in this regard which had a similar backstory system. The game gives you the ability to hack in combat but it takes loving forever just to hack one guy and in the time you mange to do some minor hacking debuff to them you could have blown away the whole room with your gun. The gunplay itself also looks really dated, if that makes sense? Again I have not actually played the game so if I'm way off base here tell me I'm wrong, but it looks like Borderlands 1 gunplay, which is inoffensive but kinda weak for the core combat mechanic of an FPS in 2020.

I came away from ~6 hours of watching various streams that the game is visually impressive but in terms of in game mechanics is designed and plays like something a decade old. Something I'd definitely be disappointed in if I shared the mainstream hype and as it is probably something I won't buy until it's on sale and has had a lot of patches.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


I love the reactionaries whining about game reviews when the real travesty is one of the all time greatest games (New Vegas) ended up with an 84 on metacritic mostly due to bugs screwing Obsidian out of a bonus mostly when this game is buggy to the point people are calling it unfinished and currently sits at 90.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Groovelord Neato posted:

I love the reactionaries whining about game reviews when the real travesty is one of the all time greatest games (New Vegas) ended up with an 84 on metacritic mostly due to bugs screwing Obsidian out of a bonus mostly when this game is buggy to the point people are calling it unfinished and currently sits at 90.

Go watch the video I just posted an hour ago. The narrative around the metacritic thing got built up but it was never an intentional attempt at loving over Obsidian.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Of course it wasn't but New Vegas isn't an 84 and it sucks they missed out on the bonus due to bugs when a far buggier game is reviewing better.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Groovelord Neato posted:

I love the reactionaries whining about game reviews when the real travesty is one of the all time greatest games (New Vegas) ended up with an 84 on metacritic mostly due to bugs screwing Obsidian out of a bonus mostly when this game is buggy to the point people are calling it unfinished and currently sits at 90.

https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/1335947292810080256

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
This cyberpunk mess unfortunately also reminded me that CriticalDrinker still exists.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Too late unfortunately, their stock has already dipped over 10% because of the harsh reviews rolling in.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007

Sydin posted:

Too late unfortunately, their stock has already dipped over 10% because of the harsh reviews rolling in.

What reviews are these? Most of the ones I’ve seen have been glowing.

I’ve barely scratched the surface of the game so it’s not like I can give it a full review myself, but I can say I’m loving it so far. No game could ever hope to live up to 5 years of hype, and Witcher 3 was the toughest possible act to follow, but I’d say it was definitely worth the wait if a few launch bugs are the worst people can find to say about it.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

It’s weird that people are mad at reviewers for pointing out the game isn’t patched yet so they’re sometimes dinging a little for that when they run into issues.

They can always revisit things and judge again after a patch or something, but “well obviously they’ll fix it later so I won’t knock it any now” reads like a worse review to me.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Bakeneko posted:

What reviews are these? Most of the ones I’ve seen have been glowing.

I’ve barely scratched the surface of the game so it’s not like I can give it a full review myself, but I can say I’m loving it so far. No game could ever hope to live up to 5 years of hype, and Witcher 3 was the toughest possible act to follow, but I’d say it was definitely worth the wait if a few launch bugs are the worst people can find to say about it.

It's not a few launch bugs lol

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Bakeneko posted:

What reviews are these? Most of the ones I’ve seen have been glowing.

I’ve barely scratched the surface of the game so it’s not like I can give it a full review myself, but I can say I’m loving it so far. No game could ever hope to live up to 5 years of hype, and Witcher 3 was the toughest possible act to follow, but I’d say it was definitely worth the wait if a few launch bugs are the worst people can find to say about it.

It's a lot more than a few bugs, it's been early Fallout 76 levels of completely broken and borderline unplayable for a lot of people.

Here's a Bloomberg piece on the reviews/stock price: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-07/cd-projekt-s-cyberpunk-game-is-a-critical-hit-despite-glitches

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DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
The only argument against I could see being fair is that some reviewers have played the game on easy mode and as a result missed out on why some elements like crafting are necessary.
But I don't even know if any review fits both those criteria.

I am inclined to not take The Quartering's side on any argument anyway.

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