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Achmed Jones posted:this is false. its not impossible but you can't count on it happening. ever. so might as well act like it's impossible anyhow and be aware of the high probability of your boss lying about it to your face, cuz that's a routine dealio
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gently caress all bosses.scumbags also i need to write a proposal anyone have a good template? lmzo
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barkbell posted:gently caress all bosses.scumbags also i need to write a proposal anyone have a good template? lmzo send the proposal to both your boss and the recruiter
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Captain Foo posted:send the proposal to both your boss and the recruiter hell ya
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a modest proposal
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In addition to moving across the country starting my first FAANG job around 1.5 months ago I'm also prepping to go back to school and get a master's while working 
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Decided to post the following set of questions I've been using for more recent interviews and which served me relatively well:
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MononcQc posted:Decided to post the following set of questions I've been using for more recent interviews and which served me relatively well: 
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thanks for the reality check, as i expected posting here just confirmed what friends have been telling me. now i just have to actually take action, but at least i've got some reassurance now.
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just finished interviewing with 3 companies for the past week, waiting to hear back now - wish me luck and all that I'm always a bit pessimistic b/c who would want to employ me but I'm giving it 50% chance I'll get an offer prolly should fire off a couple more cvs tomorrow, even though it's a bit too close to christmas
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literally cannot imagine being in a position to make a dozen demands of the sort of company i should work for only "do you QA the drat software before releasing it on the world," I always ask that one and the results can be enlightening
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Gazpacho posted:literally cannot imagine being in a position to make a dozen demands of the sort of company i should work for this is a really toxic attitude that is probably hurting you in interviews. You are not at the interviewer's mercy, they are at yours. They need your labor and you could work anywhere.
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Corla Plankun posted:this is a really toxic attitude that is probably hurting you in interviews. You are not at the interviewer's mercy, they are at yours. They need your labor and you could work anywhere. this is absolutely true, unless youre desperate thats why you dont job search when youre desperate, you do it when youre already employed and can tell the company youre interviewing with to go gently caress themselves without risking your ability to eat
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Corla Plankun posted:this is a really toxic attitude that is probably hurting you in interviews. You are not at the interviewer's mercy, they are at yours. They need your labor and you could work anywhere.
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got my award letter today. equity and bonus were good, salary bump was less than last year despite higher ratings. I assume that that's because I went from below market reference point to above, but still a bit disappointing. overall the numbers are good though
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Achmed Jones posted:got my award letter today. equity and bonus were good, salary bump was less than last year despite higher ratings. I assume that that's because I went from below market reference point to above, but still a bit disappointing. overall the numbers are good though goog?
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Gazpacho posted:MononcQc can work anywhere. employers do not react to my history the way they react to his. sure, but no one said you could work EVERYWHERE — given what you’re describing, you’re right that you probably wont get hired by a FAANG before Christmas. but you can work ANYWHERE. no given employer has a hold over you. they need you as much as you need them, even if the way that need manifests is completely different.
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Vinz Clortho posted:goog? yep
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Gazpacho posted:MononcQc can work anywhere. employers do not react to my history the way they react to his. well I can work in places that care for remote workers and are willing to deal with canadians but I get your point. The thing is that most interviews have a period of time where you can ask questions, usually near the end. I don't run through all of them, but I made a go-to list to go through when they give time for questions and there's one or two you might ask. If you get through a painful slog with like 5-6 interviews or interviewers, it becomes easier to get answers from the whole list, or to get responses from various people to contrast and compare. If you really care hard about agile or whatever, it's legit to ask about how they run project management. If you're gonna be a on-call, do ask about the call rotation, what it's looking like, what they think their challenges are, etc. You're entitled to information if you're gonna work there and that continuously hopping jobs look bad on your resume. In fact, if they are annoyed at you asking questions about the job they might pay you to do when it comes to poo poo like "what are your expectations of someone in that role" or asking about growth opportunities, that's a super good red flag to heed.
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fwiw from the interviewer side, asking questions that make it sound like you care about things like code quality and team cohesion and working-smarter-not-harder makes you look better as a prospective hire than if you give the impression of not giving a gently caress because a job's a job.
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i have said yes to hiring people based primarily on the questions they asked
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I’ve only ever hired interns but I have definitely passed over the ones who didn’t seem engaged, and not asking questions (or at mentioning things they would have asked if I hadn’t already answered them) is a great way to seem unengaged
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I wonder if that's what gave me the edge over my former coworker, who apparently also applied for my current job and was just about as overqualified for it as I am
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yeah i learned it’s important as an interviewee, if they bring something up that you intended to ask, make sure you say “oh I’m glad you mentioned that, I was going to ask if” whatever
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I got a rejection from one of the jobs I was interviewing for, to be fair the technical interview was a bit of a trainwreck - lots of questions about unity, c# and android when the job was advertised as C++ with some C and Python Compared with the other interviews it was a lot more chaotic so, well, maybe I dodged a bullet there? Still sucks, they're in a good location and the pay was good too. e: and no I don't have professional experience with c# or unity and my android experience is fairly limited which I've been clear on from the start Private Speech fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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Private Speech posted:I got a rejection from one of the jobs I was interviewing for, to be fair the technical interview was a bit of a trainwreck - lots of questions about unity, c# and android when the job was advertised as C++ with some C and Python sounds like you dodged a game shaped bullet there
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My favorite pretending I'm interested question is "what's piece of work have you done here are you most proud of?" and it's also a dead giveaway if the work is hyper-boring.
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i have a bunch of questions written down in a notebook when i interview and I write down the answers they give to them. it lets me compare companies really well and makes you look very prepared even though it's no more work than just reading the OP of this thread
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Plorkyeran posted:i have said yes to hiring people based primarily on the questions they asked also same
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ugh, even the second set of interviews hasn't worked out, and this time there was no issue from the company side (except maybe the unix command thing I guess) sucks because that was a set of 5 interviews and a coding exercise and that's a fair amount of time, especially with 4 more for the other position feedback said I was an impressive candidate on a very strong shortlist and that they'll try to stay in touch about other opportunities ah well Private Speech fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Dec 11, 2020 |
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i have to think that the test of the fifth interview was to hire only the people sensible enough to tell them to poo poo or get off the pot already when called.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i have to think that the test of the fifth interview was to hire only the people sensible enough to tell them to poo poo or get off the pot already when called. "You have how many steps? Yeah that's me out" Incidently I had a talk with a hiring manager who casually said the interview had four steps: Talk to recruiter (20 min) -> Talk to technical hiring manager (1h) -> Take home (2h) -> Technical interview with five people including a live coding thing (5h) -> Interview with CTO (1h) I just can't
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pretty much every interview for me within the past 6 mo or so has been like this. i feel like the interview process is just getting longer across the board
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The whole thing's a garbage fire race to the bottom vicious circle. No one knows how to interview, so they focus on the things they can measure, which include difficulty and the amount of effort involved. That's fine for FAANG companies cause they have an effectively infinite candidate pool, but everyone else would just shooting themselves in the foot if tech weren't the only way a lot of people can get decently paid in our capitalist hellworld.
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Boiled Water posted:"You have how many steps? Yeah that's me out" this is pretty normal and seems fine, except for live coding
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Plorkyeran posted:i have said yes to hiring people based primarily on the questions they asked
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Boiled Water posted:"You have how many steps? Yeah that's me out" I've had to repeatedly go through these steps even at companies that knew me and reached out to me to do that stuff. Even being friends with people there and having a company reach out to you has similar steps. They might omit the take home and maybe give you a simpler technical interview (i.e. they lob a soft ball live coding exercise, or replace it with more interviews to talk to people), but being on a short list with people you know has mostly been helpful to skip the resume line to that interview process and avoid the recruiter talk more than anything. Now that poo poo is remote though, they all seem very content to break up the 5h session over many days or whatever so you don't need to take time off. My last round of interview required 4 days off and coordinating travel with 3 different companies to avoid having to fly to the bay area 3 separate times.
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Boiled Water posted:"You have how many steps? Yeah that's me out" what's the actual problem here? i'd push back against the takehome if it is "build this thing, it should take x hours" because i don't trust companies not to waste my time, but if they want to do a screen share or timed hackerrank thing or whatever as a screening step that's fine
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