Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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Jack-Off Lantern: Mar 2, 2012

peter gabriel posted:

Yeah I am at 1440 with psycho rtx, DLSS is doing it's thing and it looks incredible.
So does star citiezen 10 years ago to be fair

What Citizens fail to mention :Cyberpunk has almost no issues displaying so many npcs on the street that they will routinely bump into each other on the sidewalk with barely any t-posing or despawning in sight.

Had guys walk through each other and me and a car tho. Garbage game, compared to standing on chair masterpiece

Jack-Off Lantern fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Dec 11, 2020

# ? Dec 11, 2020 21:56

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 06:47

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

peter gabriel posted:

They are lying / haven't played it / trolling
No one with a PC that doesn't feature a Voodoo 2 (so probably most backers) can deny how beautiful 2077 is, even if they bounce off the game.
I have encountered a grand total of no bugs so far either

I lost my password for the opsec discord but are your .cfg files that made this possible ready to share yet? [platinum]I finally got my machine set up to produce SC bugs on command as per the instructions on the readme in your last release but it would be great if you put the bug fix lines for 2077 in there as well how else are we supposed to make persuasive comparison videos? I'm sure everyone could use some Christmas money with the pandemic and all but SC's strides of accomplishment are slowing down my grey market efforts so I want to step up the fud campaign ]/platinum]

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:00

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Hey reddit:

https://i.imgur.com/BWpoFOb.gifv

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:01

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Thoatse posted:

I lost my password for the opsec discord but are your .cfg files that made this possible ready to share yet? [platinum]I finally got my machine set up to produce SC bugs on command as per the instructions on the readme in your last release but it would be great if you put the bug fix lines for 2077 in there as well how else are we supposed to make persuasive comparison videos? I'm sure everyone could use some Christmas money with the pandemic and all but SC's strides of accomplishment are slowing down my grey market efforts so I want to step up the fud campaign ]/platinum]

I've uploaded them to the google drive we use now, check there for updated versions of cfg files / hax

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:13

Armadillo Tank: Mar 26, 2010

On the subject of games modeling things that aren't visible to the player:
https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1337105437703847938
clipping through your pants is hip in 2077

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:17

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

peter gabriel posted:

I've uploaded them to the google drive we use now, check there for updated versions of cfg files / hax

Wait, I've only got this one, are we using some new code now?

code:

10 INPUT "What is your name commando: "; U$
20 PRINT "Hello "; U$
30 INPUT "How many star systems do you want to have dark fantasies in and dress up as a woman in: "; N
40 S$ = ""
50 FOR I = 1 TO N
60 S$ = S$ + "*"
70 NEXT I
80 PRINT S$
90 INPUT "Do you want more star systems to have dark fantasies in and dress up as a woman in? "; A$
100 IF LEN(A$) = 0 THEN GOTO 90
110 A$ = LEFT$(A$, 1)
120 IF A$ = "Y" OR A$ = "y" THEN GOTO 30
130 PRINT "Goodbye you have won Star Citizen but what is winning anyway? "; U$
140 END

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:18

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

The latest one has a lust on your mind section

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:24

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

peter gabriel posted:

The latest one has a lust on your mind section

To be fair, that's a feature in cyberpunk too

quote:

I keep accidentally having sex with men

When you have to pick angel or skye I thought angel was the chick so this guy puts the moves on me, then later this guy outside a club asks me if I want a dance and im like, oh lets go in I bet I get to choose which dancer I get. NO. This man takes you in a room and bangs you with an unskippable cutscene. Imma delta out to rdr2 for a while choombas.

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:28

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

Jack-Off Lantern posted:

What Citizens fail to mention :Cyberpunk has almost no issues displaying so many npcs on the street that they will routinely bump into each other on the sidewalk with barely any t-posing or despawning in sight.

Oh they�re mentioning it

posted:

Graphically it leaves something to be desired, the world is grey and under populated, and your chances to interact with it are even sparser.

posted:

In comparison Starcitizen is already more flush with life in Alpha than 2077 is at release.

Thankfully the locals are ripping the piss out of them XD

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:28

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

peter gabriel posted:

The latest one has a lust on your mind section

Oh OK, you're working with the Theatres of War.cfg, sorry I didn't realise.

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:31

Zazz Razzamatazz: Apr 19, 2016; by sebmojo

The Titanic posted:

Oh, what? They didn't make sure the customer knew what they were getting into and failed to indicate the current state of the game and that it was deeply alpha with many many game breaking problems?

Well I'm sure they meant to because this is all part of the research a person needs to do before "buying in" and making posts to the community about their poor experiences.

Right?

That SC "gameplay" trailer is basically false advertising IMO.

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:31

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

peter gabriel posted:

I've uploaded them to the google drive we use now, check there for updated versions of cfg files / hax

Thanks dancy cat you da man!

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:35

BumbleOne: Jul 1, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

Thoatse posted:

I lost my password for the opsec discord but are your .cfg files that made this possible ready to share yet? [platinum]I finally got my machine set up to produce SC bugs on command as per the instructions on the readme in your last release but it would be great if you put the bug fix lines for 2077 in there as well how else are we supposed to make persuasive comparison videos? I'm sure everyone could use some Christmas money with the pandemic and all but SC's strides of accomplishment are slowing down my grey market efforts so I want to step up the fud campaign ]/platinum]

now you're busted brother!
send this man to klescher rehabilitation facility.
and repair that broken fan!!

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:39

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:47

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Honestly between this and the CoD in space trailer I am starting to get quite a loving ego I tell you what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nlemilLjQY

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:47

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

BTW congratulations on your promotion Major Thomas

# ? Dec 11, 2020 22:48

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Thoatse posted:

BTW congratulations on your promotion Major Thomas

# ? Dec 11, 2020 23:02

RabbitWizard: Oct 21, 2008; Muldoon

Mirificus posted:

There is no project in modern times... not skyscrapers, not bridges, not fighter jets, not theme parks, not feature films that take that kind of planning and resources.

Yes Lethality, SC is the most complex thing humanity has ever done or tried to achieve. We can only dream of a world where making a video game is as easy as building something like the LHC.

# ? Dec 11, 2020 23:19

DigitalPenny: Sep 3, 2018

RabbitWizard posted:

Yes Lethality, SC is the most complex thing humanity has ever done or tried to achieve. We can only dream of a world where making a video game is as easy as building something like the LHC.

I mean kids in pre school can pretty much design and manufacture graphics cards

school kids could make space rockets it's just basic applied science.

A design and manufacture of a morden nuclear attack submarine ... is a bit tricky but loads of people have managed it before.

A game with space ships ... Now that's some next level enstien poo poo

# ? Dec 12, 2020 00:10

DigitalPenny: Sep 3, 2018

I find it hard to sympathise with people demanding refunds for cp2077 despite most having played the game for 12 hours. (They are getting them)

I was entertained for 5 dollars an hour but it was not as good as I had hoped = OUTRAGEOUS

CDPR should feel ashamed and don't deserve a penny!

# ? Dec 12, 2020 00:19

DigitalPenny: Sep 3, 2018

They are giving out refunds whole sale for the old console users.

I think they should be bold and be like no worries have your money back sorry you are unhapppy. Just know we plan to increase the game price by 5 bucks every three months and have no sales for 3 years.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 00:22

Scruffpuff: Dec 23, 2015; Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

The Titanic posted:

It's like a kaleidoscope. Sure you found this super cool thing with this certain twist and shake of the junk in there... but you keep twisting and shaking for the next cool formation, and any one singular formation is not somewhere you stop at and say "I've found the perfect combination, I'm done", because there's more, always more, and your formation doesn't really matter any. And the next person that picks it up is not just going to sit there and admire your finding... they're gonna immediately start twisting and turning it as well.

Best analogy for that procgen hollowness so far. "Look I found a random pattern that looks kinda neat!" is just not a moving experience for me. It works for games like Diablo because they only use it as a tool to make the dungeon's layout random, for replayability sake and to dovetail into the later rift runs - but you'll notice, particularly in D3, that the few rooms that are fixed design always have a better feel than the stitched-together generic parts.

You could make an argument that reality itself is procedurally generated, in a sense, and earth is interesting and has tons of incredibly cool poo poo, but that's because the laws of physics and the elements and forces in play are immeasurably complex and naturally interact to create wonder. Procgen planets are nowhere near that level; they tend to be flat biomes, hills, mountains, and some water based on the most fundamental rules imaginable, and it feels like it. Even a simple cartoony WOW level feels better because the designers think about how they want it to feel first, then add touches like mountains, rivers, waterfalls, valleys, etc. Some unrealistic things may come but the emotion of the zone is always intact.

SC using procgen to go for size over content was like shooting themselves in both feet at once. Now it's too big for them to make interesting, and the magic of that personal touch was the only thing they could have leaned on to make the game feel distinct, if bad. They lack the ability to compete with actual game developers, so now it's buggy AND dull.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 00:51

Fantastic Foreskin: Jan 6, 2013; A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Anybody got stimpire.txt handy? I'm drunk and there's a QCS thread that's gone on too long.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 01:02

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

The Sickening and Heartbreaking Truths of the Fourth Stimpire posted:

In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will.

Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect.

However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection.

All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever.

Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 01:10

Dr. Honked: Jan 9, 2011; eat it you slaaaaaaag

Mirificus posted:

stimpire.txt

I really want to read the collected writings of Stimpire Guy

# ? Dec 12, 2020 02:57

Lladre: Jun 28, 2011; Soiled Meat

Im having fun playing 2077, just got an email from CIg that they are partnered with yet another eye tracking system. Who the hell keeps not checking how poo poo this project is before partnering with Crobbers.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 03:00

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Dr. Honked posted:

I really want to read the collected writings of Stimpire Guy

Stimpire Collection
The Sickening and Heartbreaking Truths of the Fourth Stimpire
Banshee: Introduction & Prologue
Banshee Origins: The Ten Stimpires

Miscellaneous
Grenade Predictions
Genetic Bomb Sac

# ? Dec 12, 2020 03:03

Experimental Skin: Apr 16, 2016

Lladre posted:

Im having fun playing 2077, just got an email from CIg that they are partnered with yet another eye tracking system. Who the hell keeps not checking how poo poo this project is before partnering with Crobbers.

The eye tracking doesn't even work, just head. I'd dare say Tobii just scooped all the cash Mr Space threw in the general direction while he snorted another line and they backed out the door with a rictus smile. Citizer already has head tracking baked in from Cryengine, it likely works by default.

How many Idrii will you bet eye tracking never works, as it will require an additional subroutine "layered" upon head tracking, and they probably can't hijack the mouse as it's an integral part of the "UI" Robert Space has hand crafted.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 03:20

Time_pants: Jun 25, 2012; Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

MedicineHut posted:

It's kind of redundant to even say that the Star Citizen visuals are impressive.

But it's even more impressive after playing Cyberpunk last night... in what should be the most visually impressive game of this generation, I found it quite lackluster compared to what we see in Star Citizen.

And of course CP is a single player game... while SC is a multiplayer game with a scale (planet to pupil

that something like CP doesn't even have to begin to content with.

I can't say enough... from environment to props... maybe even certain character aspects... Star Citizen wins this round.

Bravo CIG!

CD Projekt Red's new game has to be the first time Star Citizen fans have avoided putting CP on their computers.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 04:02

DreadUnknown: Nov 4, 2020; Bird is the word.

Dude Lethality, like I'm not super into Cyberpunk but even I can admit its a fantastic lookin game. Some of the bugs are fun at least, like Jackie sitting in midair and stuff like that.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 05:17

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Behold, the fall of the mighty Idris

https://v.redd.it/lbcigxafko461/DASH_1080.mp4

# ? Dec 12, 2020 06:18

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

https://v.redd.it/p2euzvjenl461/DASH_1080.mp4

# ? Dec 12, 2020 06:21

stingtwo: Nov 16, 2012

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1337043903598505986
https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1337046599000870915
https://twitter.com/Mr_Hasgaha/status/1337061171904516101

It's 2020, the only ones who should be doing screenshots are developers showing snippets of an upcoming game/content update. Everyone else it's gameplay footage of the actual game.

And thats where Star Citizen fails in every comparison.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 06:42

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

stingtwo posted:

It's 2020, the only ones who should be doing screenshots are developers showing snippets of an upcoming game/content update. Everyone else it's gameplay footage of the actual game.

And thats where Star Citizen fails in every comparison.

quote:

HI EVERYONE, I'M HASGAHA!
I am a long time Sci-Fi fan and casual video game player. I create entertaining and sometimes helpful/informative Star Citizen GamePlay videos that showcase the graphics, mechanics, and features of Star Citizen. I'll try to touch on all aspects of the game as updates are released and hopefully give everyone a taste of what is possible in this game.

I also take A LOT of in-game Star Citizen screenshots that expose the beauty and diversity of this ground breaking game. You've probably seen a number of YouTubers and Twitch streamers using my shots whether you knew it or not. My screenshots have also been recognized by Star Citizen's developer, Cloud Imperium Games (two-time MVP'er). I've even had a few shots featured in PC Gamer.

I'm very active in the Star Citizen community (the subReddit, Twitter, and the official RSI Forums) and find it to be the best gaming community I've ever been a part of.

FAN FUNDING
All the pledges received from Patreon will go to support the creation of my YouTube content and screenshots/images/wallpapers through hardware and software upgrades, license fees, and the various other expenses. Barring some extreme force of nature, I will continue to play Star Citizen, creating YouTube content and screenshots regardless of how much Patreon and YouTube donate/tip jar support I receive. But with YOUR help, I hope to improve the quality and quantity of my content and enhance community involvement.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 06:57

Experimental Skin: Apr 16, 2016

Mirificus posted:

Yes, the recommended by CInoG on their site, not minimum, but recommended, is an AMD Radeon HD 7990, which released in (checks notes) April 2013. Very expensive.

Actually, looking on Ebay, scammer are flogging them for 500US. Good gods...

# ? Dec 12, 2020 07:10

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

poo poo I didn't realize I could get paid to take screenshots

# ? Dec 12, 2020 07:11

Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Experimental Skin posted:

Yes, the recommended by CInoG on their site, not minimum, but recommended, is an AMD Radeon HD 7990, which released in (checks notes) April 2013. Very expensive.

Actually, looking on Ebay, scammer are flogging them for 500US. Good gods...

Lucky for this guy taking screenshots doesn't require a good GPU, since you'll already be in single digit FPS it's like playing the whole game as a screenshot.

PERFECT

Also just lol that someone found another way to scam SC zealots out of more money, and this time using the 'ol reverse jpeg switcheroo

# ? Dec 12, 2020 07:20

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

In all fairness that guy takes amazing screenshots and his eye for composition is better than many professional photographers and designers. I would never pay a dime for them and for that matter don't pay anyone to play loving videogames other than the people that makes ones I like but I digress

# ? Dec 12, 2020 07:56

AbstractNapper: Jun 5, 2011; I can help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXGLITOt5Y

Oh, yes. Free content update for the SQ game.

~~CInotG~~ EA you really did it! You magnificent bastards.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 07:56

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 06:47

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

AbstractNapper posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXGLITOt5Y

Oh, yes. Free content update for the SQ game.

~~CInotG~~ EA you really did it! You magnificent bastards.

Each one of the 3 major patches leading up to this had more actual fixes and improvements to quality of life that the community were asking for than all of Star Citizen's patches combined it was pretty amazing to witness after long term exposure to this shitshow.

Every single line of the notes were solid af with zero filler or elevator panel updates instead all being things I saw multiple posts about and one by one they addressed nearly all the complaints people had. On top of that they added the 2 new ships and even added TIR support for the non VR folks which even works with Freetrack and poo poo

loving hilarious citizens try to use EA as their example of corrupt publishers when even at their worse they make crobbler and co look like fools and crooks and examples like Squadrons it's not fair to Motive even use them in the same sentence let alone compare their practices.

# ? Dec 12, 2020 08:22

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