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Edge & Christian posted:Midnight Express was a pretty big movie in 1978, though not one that has much of an obvious connection to the wrestling gimmick, according to Wikipedia: Brad Armstrong and Tim Horner were known as "The Lightning Express" When they were first put together, Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty were going to be called ... "The American Express". Thankfully, they managed to get "The Midnight Rockers" approved instead. Davros1 fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Golden Bee posted:The 70s and 80s also loved the word connection, the best one being the “miracle violence connection.” I dunno, I was always partial to The Colossal Connection.
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Davros1 posted:Brad Armstrong and Tim Horner were known as "The Lightning Express" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISN5y_vGiP0
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Red posted:I dunno, I was always partial to The Colossal Connection. The Can-Am Connection
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The Rock and Sock Connection
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The East-West Connection (Jesse Ventura and Adrian Adonis) And then when Ventura was forced to retire due to health issues, Adonis teamed with Dick Murdoch as The North-South Connection.
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Davros1 posted:The Can-Am Connection But the Can-Am Express was vastly superior
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Red posted:I dunno, I was always partial to The Colossal Connection. This only because Mean Gene called them the Colostomy Connection at WM6
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I have a couple of questions: 1. A couple people sued WCW for discrimination - Sonny Onoo, Bobby Walker, etc. Which were legitimate, and which weren't? Did they push Booker in response to the Walker lawsuit? 2. When Jerry Lawler first joined the WWF, was he planned to wrestle full time, and it just worked out that he ended up announcing, or was the part-time wrestling/full-time announcing thing always the plan? 3. Did Randy Savage have any good (****+) singles matches after he left the WWF? 4. Any reason why Sting left the WWE's legends contract deal? 5. Has Vince held on to a grudge for more than 30 years (current as of today) with anyone other than Nailz and Ole Anderson?
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Red posted:I have a couple of questions: Basically all of the WCW lawsuits were legitimate, the company was extremely racist! Sonny Onoo had the least compelling case since he was Bischoff's friend and kind of part of the reason for it, (as he was an unqualified grifter who was working off of some of these stereotypes, but even he faced anti-Asian racism above and beyond whatever stereotypes he was portraying) and some of the wrestlers who were discriminated against never sued, but there weren't really illegitimate cases. Management was incredibly racist and expressed views that they didn't think black or Mexican wrestlers could draw. Savage had some good matches in WCW with DDP, maybe not ****+ but close. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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forkboy84 posted:4 time WCW Champion J-E-Double F J-A-Double R-E-Double T. His first 3 title reigns amounted to a combined 17 days as champion.
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Red posted:3. Did Randy Savage have any good (****+) singles matches after he left the WWF?
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Red posted:When Jerry Lawler first joined the WWF, was he planned to wrestle full time, and it just worked out that he ended up announcing, or was the part-time wrestling/full-time announcing thing always the plan? Pretty sure his deal was always full-time announcing and part time wrestling. He was still working/running Memphis and I don't think he wanted to give that up.
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Can someone tell me more about Chaparita Asari? I know she has nice flips and lost an impressive squash match against Aja Kong.
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TL posted:Pretty sure his deal was always full-time announcing and part time wrestling. He was still working/running Memphis and I don't think he wanted to give that up. They were also probably not going to push him too hard since Lawler is like, 5'7
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MassRafTer posted:Basically all of the WCW lawsuits were legitimate, the company was extremely racist! Sonny Onoo had the least compelling case since he was Bischoff's friend and kind of part of the reason for it, (as he was an unqualified grifter who was working off of some of these stereotypes, but even he faced anti-Asian racism above and beyond whatever stereotypes he was portraying) and some of the wrestlers who were discriminated against never sued, but there weren't really illegitimate cases. Management was incredibly racist and expressed views that they didn't think black or Mexican wrestlers could draw. Was Booker T's singles push a response to the Walker lawsuit or lawsuits in general?
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Red posted:Was Booker T's singles push a response to the Walker lawsuit or lawsuits in general? That was generally passed around as a theory, but WCW was also bleeding major talent at the time
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Red posted:A couple people sued WCW for discrimination - Sonny Onoo, Bobby Walker, etc. Which were legitimate, and which weren't? Did they push Booker in response to the Walker lawsuit? It was a lot more than a couple. One of these days, I need to do a proper article about it, maybe when the new podcast is going and I do an episode or episodes on it, but the gist is this: * The big series of lawsuits (they were all technically separate cases docketed individually, but depositions etc covered all of the cases), led by Sonny Onoo and Bobby Walker with Cary Ichter as lead attorney, came in ~2000ish. Joining Onoo and Walker were Thunderbolt Patterson, Hardbody Harrison, Pez Whatley I think, and mix of half a dozen guys who either trained at the Power Plant, got a tryout, and/or were rejected for a tryout. Stevie Ray and Ernest Miller would sue later with Ichter as their lawyer but I don't think they were grouped together with the other suits, though I don't know why. According to Ichter, every single wrestler who stuck with the case got a settlement, and while he obviously can't disclose the amount himself, it's always been reported that each wrestler got in excess of $1 million. (TBS's stated corporate ethos and how they conflict with the actual institutional racial issues in the company seem like the most obvious reason for why they fought the suit for so long after WCW's assets were sold, even though they had an absolute loser of a case.) * Like MRT said, WCW was so institutionally racist—according to Ichter, as bad as any company he's ever seen in his many years of doing discrimination litigation—that anyone BIPOC coming into contact with them probably had a legitimate case. And whatever you want to say about Onoo and the character he played, he was still subjected to racism far beyond that (the "Chinese menu" email forward that got printed out/posted on the office bulletin board and featured items like "Cum Drop Soup" being the most famous example). And unlike the others, he was also alleging that he was misclassified as an independent contractor because of his race, the main argument being that Jimmy Hart had been granted employee status even though they both had similar roles in the office, with Onoo even having a corporate credit card. There are some asterisks, though, with the big one being Rick Reeves (not to be confused with "Hard Rock" Ricky Reeves from the JCP era; this guy debuted in 1992). He never did any work for WCW and WCW's lawyers stressed that there was no evidence he reached out beyond his own claims that he repeatedly made inquiries for years. But he did allege that racist comments were made some of the times he was rejected, and we know from other stuff in the case, including the testimony of non-parties, that something like that isn't remotely a stretch. * There's testimony about Booker getting the belt being in response to the lawsuits, but I can't find it right now.
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Is the "they made out like bandits" comment that's often used to dismiss the lawsuits as frivolous from Alvarez/Death of WCW or someone else?
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davidbix posted:To expand on what MRT said... Ugh. I wonder if Batista being rejected by the Power Plant is related.
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Red posted:Ugh.
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TV Zombie posted:Was Master Wato ever good? I thought he was a well regarded young lion and that there was a desire for him to come back from excursion but now, he’s a joke right? Master Wato is only a baby. He is as young as the two younger young lions (Shota and Ren) in the class after him. When he was a YL he was extremely sympathetic which is an easy way to look good as a YL because a big part of being a YL is getting the poo poo beat out of you. The gimmick is silly but lots of New Japan gimmicks start silly and the wrestler grows into it and makes it his own. When Jay got the switchblade gimmick Gedo just said "you are sharp...like a switchblade" and Jay had to work it out until he nailed it. He will be fine. I think he is trying too much in ring and he is a bit clumsy. He almost killed Robbie with some crazy suplex. He just needs to calm down a bit but he has a future.
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I don't recall this person in WWE, but Sabu had a muscle-y manager named Super Genie? https://twitter.com/TherealRVD/status/1327386903520313350 Also, wrestlers need a union, because holy cow is she hosed.
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Red posted:I don't recall this person in WWE, but Sabu had a muscle-y manager named Super Genie? She was in OVW and DSW under developmental contracts
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Red posted:I don't recall this person in WWE, but Sabu had a muscle-y manager named Super Genie? yeaaaah i shared an uber with her and sabu comin back from mania in nj their relationship seemed...weird.
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So is Pat Patterson getting a loving tribute that omits any mention of the sexual harassment allegations against him? I haven't seen a flood of tribute episodes in my podcast feed or anything.
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Burn Down Canberra posted:Master Wato is only a baby. He is as young as the two younger young lions (Shota and Ren) in the class after him. When he was a YL he was extremely sympathetic which is an easy way to look good as a YL because a big part of being a YL is getting the poo poo beat out of you. The gimmick is silly but lots of New Japan gimmicks start silly and the wrestler grows into it and makes it his own. When Jay got the switchblade gimmick Gedo just said "you are sharp...like a switchblade" and Jay had to work it out until he nailed it. Voice of Wrestling Twitter has mentioned that the crowds being only to clap is making it hard for Wato and Oka to judge crowd reaction in terms of what's actually working. Thus they're trying to tweak characters without the usual feedback they'd be getting from crowds. So I'm not ready to write Wato and O'kharn off yet
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What was the deal between Killer Kross and Impact Wrestling? Why wouldn't they release him from his contract? Was this Callis and D'Amore's doing?
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I was thinking the other day how wild it is that The Rock was able to get his eyebrow over. What are some of the strangest things that wrestlers have gotten over?
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Shard posted:I was thinking the other day how wild it is that The Rock was able to get his eyebrow over. What are some of the strangest things that wrestlers have gotten over? a sock hidden in the wrestler's own pants
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Shard posted:I was thinking the other day how wild it is that The Rock was able to get his eyebrow over. What are some of the strangest things that wrestlers have gotten over? a dumb black and white stuffed cat that looks nothing like a cat
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wrestlers having to do diarrhea or getting diarrhea all over them always gets a huge pop
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Shard posted:I was thinking the other day how wild it is that The Rock was able to get his eyebrow over. What are some of the strangest things that wrestlers have gotten over? Was “HEAD” truly ever over? Or Moppy?
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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:Was “HEAD” truly ever over? Or Moppy? moppy no, head... maybe? I'm going to say al snow was more popular with it than he would have been without it I believe in my heart Perry Saturn could've been doing better things though
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Shard posted:I was thinking the other day how wild it is that The Rock was able to get his eyebrow over. What are some of the strangest things that wrestlers have gotten over? what
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Cussing, though it is amoral, impolite, and shameful
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Head was very over and popular with people, even outside of wrestling
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Shard posted:I was thinking the other day how wild it is that The Rock was able to get his eyebrow over. What are some of the strangest things that wrestlers have gotten over? Jericho is of course a master of getting random crap over. A potted plant, some paper (multiple times in his career), saying ”it”, not saying anything... Taichi has gotten over pants being removed.
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This may not be the best place for this as it's more of a recommendation request than a question, but I just got Dragongate Network after not following since somewhere in 2015-16, what are some shows I should check out?
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I believe in my heart Perry Saturn could've been doing better things though Perhaps, but then, he probably shouldn’t have taken liberties with Mike Bell like an unprofessional jackass.
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