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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Let Bautista pull double duty as Ben Grimm plz Had both those thoughts before I got to your post. Problem with Bautista as Grimm, is that he’d be less scary looking as the rock monster.
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site posted:I am conflicted because walker was a pedo but also this is in extremely poor taste He was also a bad actor so fan casting him isn't any better than Triple H BUT HE LOOKS LIKE THE CHARACTER!
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OK just hear me out. Adam Sandler as Ben Grimm.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Let Bautista pull double duty as Ben Grimm plz 
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Fangz posted:Nicolas Cage as Reed Richards. I mean yes.
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I’m Cage’d out. Just like Goldblum and Bill Murray, the Internet turned him into a meme and now he’s extremely overused.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Had both those thoughts before I got to your post. Don't CGI it, just do Drax makeup but paint him orange
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FilthyImp posted:No, he's supposed to be Hank McCoy. The role of Beast is reserved for Dolph Lundgren so long as someone else is occupying the role of Cable, IMO.
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Rhyno posted:ScarJo is up for that one. Post Siege of course. I know this is a joke about white washing, but is it white washing a character that was originally British and made asian purely to make her sexier?
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JordanKai posted:The role of Beast is reserved for Dolph Lundgren so long as someone else is occupying the role of Cable, IMO. Colossus.
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twistedmentat posted:I know this is a joke about white washing, but is it white washing a character that was originally British and made asian purely to make her sexier? It's white-washing and a continuity disaster! X-Men!
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twistedmentat posted:I know this is a joke about white washing, but is it white washing a character that was originally British and made asian purely to make her sexier? I still miss Psylocke's pink and purple costume with the armored corset, mask, hood, and cape. It was still sexy, but also a cool and unique look -- much more superheroey than her bathing suit.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I still miss Psylocke's pink and purple costume with the armored corset, mask, hood, and cape. It was still sexy, but also a cool and unique look -- much more superheroey than her bathing suit. Yup. As years went on, classic Betsy is by far my favorite. I love she's back and I love her Captain Britain look. Holy crap, the sitcom scenes for Wandavision were actually shot with a studio audience. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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Cena's big square head would make him a great Colossus actually. Or maybe Hammerhead in a future Spider-Man/Daredevil movie. As an aside I'm actually just happy to catch up on the thread and see more positivity than expected. Twitter was flooding me with not just MCU fatigue, but "comic book movies are bad unilaterally on general principle". Super bummer. Personally I am excited to rev back up since I didn't end up seeing Aquaman or Shazam and don't have Disney+ yet.
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Yeah my lefty twitter feed has been dunking on the admittedly dumb take that superhero movies are like mythology take; and I'm like "I'm depressed and do enough socialist organizing to be able to indulge in these movies without guilt or whatever" I do think people try justifying their enjoyment of these movie on levels way too deep
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Colossus. The dude is 63. Assume four years til an X-Men movie and well, I guess the Marvel people have a lot of mileage with de-aging technology.
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site posted:walker was a pedo Whaaat spill the beans achillesforever6 posted:Yeah my lefty twitter feed has been dunking on the admittedly dumb take that superhero movies are like mythology take; and I'm like "I'm depressed and do enough socialist organizing to be able to indulge in these movies without guilt or whatever" I do think people try justifying their enjoyment of these movie on levels way too deep I'm a raging leftist lunatic and I still love these stupid movies for no deeper reason than "I grew up reading comics and I like action/adventure movies." The need for people to make a moral case for everything they like or dislike is one of the most exhausting products of a world in which everyone has sublimated their political powerlessness into battling over cultural signifiers.
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SlimGoodbody posted:I'm a raging leftist lunatic and I still love these stupid movies for no deeper reason than "I grew up reading comics and I like action/adventure movies." The need for people to make a moral case for everything they like or dislike is one of the most exhausting products of a world in which everyone has sublimated their political powerlessness into battling over cultural signifiers.
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Marvel movies are also suprisingly leftest for being literally billion dollar mainstream media juggernauts. Winter Soldier says that unrestrictive surveylance and preemptive strikes are bad. Captain marvel is about how the US bombs people and then get upset that they fight back. Also I don't know what you do with yourself if you insist on everything being ideologically pure. There's only so many times you can watch Jean Luc Goddard movies. The "Superheroes are all fascists and if you like them you're fascist" thing drove me from CD. Though I've discovered on further discussion with those types is they haven't actually watched any of them and go purely from marketing.
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Well in the end even movies made by megacorps are still made by people, and people have ideas and beliefs over and above Profit Maximization/sucking off capital etc. The artistic community is generally fairly left aligned (relative to the overall population) to start with, and I also suspect that your regular lefty twitterer is gonna find that even their own personal political beliefs will turn out to be quite strongly based on mass media cultural influence.
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I feel like 90% of that is just down to Tony Stark. The idea of a billionaire industrialist war profiteer having a redemptive story arc is just completely incompatible with some people's worldview.
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twistedmentat posted:Marvel movies are also suprisingly leftest for being literally billion dollar mainstream media juggernauts. Winter Soldier says that unrestrictive surveylance and preemptive strikes are bad. Captain marvel is about how the US bombs people and then get upset that they fight back. Don’t listen them, they’re all Americans so they’re all fascists.
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twistedmentat posted:Marvel movies are also suprisingly leftest for being literally billion dollar mainstream media juggernauts. Winter Soldier says that unrestrictive surveylance and preemptive strikes are bad. Captain marvel is about how the US bombs people and then get upset that they fight back. You have to understand that feeling superior to others is the primary motivation of people who make such bad faith arguments. Engaging with the media in a meaningful way and analyzing its content is not actually part of their goals, no matter how much piffle they can summon up to claim otherwise. They are shitheads first, anti-military a distant second. And of course there's an extremely strong element of classism involved. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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Phylodox posted:I feel like 90% of that is just down to Tony Stark. The idea of a billionaire industrialist war profiteer having a redemptive story arc is just completely incompatible with some people's worldview.
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Didn't you know captain marvel is air force propaganda because they are shown to exist for 10 minutes and 9 of them are about her male coworkers being misogynist garbage
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SlimGoodbody posted:Whaaat spill the beans IIRC the thing with Paul Walker was that he would be seen around with underage girls then basically the second they turned 18 all of a sudden they were "dating."
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There's plenty to be socially critical of in popular media and particularly with Marvel...with the caveats that A) you have to actually be applying critical thinking, and B) this is fiction, not real life. It's not here to teach you about real life, you have the responsibility to pick and choose what you retain from it. With regards to Iron Man in particular, it's a mixed bag. The film is very conscientious of the fact that Americans are doing horrible things to profit from ongoing war, but it also doesn't seem at all critical of the actual war itself. It's not bad that we're at war with the Middle East, no no, it's just bad that we sold weapons to the people we're supposed to be killing! Faceless masses of scary brown people with guns shouting Arabic also didn't age very well.
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He had started dating his girlfriend at the time of his death when she was 16. She said as much in interviews. An ex before her mentioned meeting him when she was 16 too.
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SonicRulez posted:Cena's big square head would make him a great Colossus actually. Or maybe Hammerhead in a future Spider-Man/Daredevil movie. We have a perfect Colossus already.  theironjef posted:The dude is 63. Assume four years til an X-Men movie and well, I guess the Marvel people have a lot of mileage with de-aging technology. Cena is 43.
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Vandar posted:We have a perfect Colossus already. Oh I was talking about Lundgren. Cena I don't think fancasts well into anything, he's a square jawed beef wall so everyone sees superhero but the only facial expressions can even do are "Steely wrestler" and "Ooooh these kids sure are exasperating!"
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Much like I think online discourse pathologizing all activity is toxic, I think the need to place some kind of moral value in all things entertainment is toxic. I just don't like painting with a wide brush. I understand some of the defensiveness. I just think Guardians of the Galaxy is a fun movie with cool characters. I think its sequel Has Something to Say TM. It was really weird seeing leftist Twitter just have a whole day about dunking on the modern myth guy. It's dorky, but it's also harmlessly so. We've all been trapped online for far longer than any people should be.Vandar posted:We have a perfect Colossus already. I didn't know if we were gonna be able to keep him!
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I don't know that I would call these movies "leftist" per se, but I do think they often have interesting things to say and writing them off as completely soulless is dumb. Trying not to get too upset about people being annoyed by all the Marvel announcements and lashing out at fans, because even for me it's almost too much, but at the same time there's definitely a lot of outright unwarranted toxicity like people claiming modern audiences are terrible and to blame here (which seems about as un-leftist as possible, now that I think about it, and ignores both film history and current conditions in the industry).
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BrianWilly posted:There's plenty to be socially critical of in popular media and particularly with Marvel...with the caveats that A) you have to actually be applying critical thinking, and B) this is fiction, not real life. It's not here to teach you about real life, you have the responsibility to pick and choose what you retain from it. OTOH it posits a middle east conflict without a single true Islamist terrorist group, where *all* conflict derives ultimately from westerners trying to gain political or economic advantage. It's not merely that "we sold weapons to people we're supposed to be killing", it's that these people we were fighting were literally acting on the orders of the people making the weapons. From that perspective it's cartoonishly radical in how it characterises the conflict.
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Hell, Iron Man 3 takes that even further, with the American bad guy creating a scary foreign boogeyman to drive weapons sales! e: wait, was it to drive weapons sales? I love IM3 but I haven't seen it in a hot minute
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Yeah, people love to point to the Gulmira scene in Iron Man as an example of justifying American violence in the Middle East, but that ignores the context of the scene within the movie. Yeah, Tony loving up bad, hostage-taking terrorists is immediately satisfying, but the movie then immediately shows that Tony nearly caused an international incident, and then goes on to show that those “terrorists” were actually working for an American industrialist.
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Arist posted:Hell, Iron Man 3 takes that even further, with the American bad guy creating a scary foreign boogeyman to drive weapons sales! The weapon is gene therapy, but yes.
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