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GunFondler42069 posted:I know there are folks who think I could do a patreon or whatever, and I'm sure i could, but i have several issues with that: 5. You announcing the ad break has become an integral part of the show. I can't complain about the ads, it's probably because I'm Belgian and there no real companies with PRODUCTS that have any interest in this neck of the woods, so I only ever get ads for other podcasts. Oh, and the one from the British government telling their Belgium dwelling citizens to prepare for Brexit and get a British driver license.
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GunFondler42069 posted:1. I like the team I work with at iHeart (esp sophie) and no patreon I could reasonably get would pay us all living wages and healthcare This is pretty much reason enough in my book. It just wouldn't be the same without Sophie.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/KnowledgeFight/comments/k66j2b/ooh_god/ Oh... yayyyyyy. Joe Rogan went on Infowars, he's gotta be due an episode right?
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Testekill posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/KnowledgeFight/comments/k66j2b/ooh_god/ Do you think interviewing lovely people on a podcast makes you one of history’s greatest monsters? In the beginning, Robert told us he would shy away from contemporary conservative talking heads like Rogan or Shapiro because they were just dipshits and not actually evil. I was genuinely surprised that we got a JORP episode. Edit: to clarify, I think if Robert wanted to he could pull it off, but I think he’d be better off waiting for Rogan to do something more nakedly evil than just host Candace Owens. Like Alex Jones straight harassing the parents of murdered children or JORP pushing a generation of Incels towards a theocratic ideology of fascism and govt. sponsored sexual slavery. Those are worth talking about. Rogan is still just an increasingly conservative idiot, you can watch the money poison his mind in real time. Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Dec 4, 2020 |
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Bust Rodd posted:Do you think interviewing lovely people on a podcast makes you one of history’s greatest monsters? In the beginning, Robert told us he would shy away from contemporary conservative talking heads like Rogan or Shapiro because they were just dipshits and not actually evil. I was genuinely surprised that we got a JORP episode. Is Dave Rubin?
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Isnt he just a Log Cabin Republican? Like a Candace Owens type “the real homophobes are the Democrats!” Pundit who shrieks while the conservative pundit whose show they are on incessantly double checks that their knees aren’t too close to touching?
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Bust Rodd posted:Do you think interviewing lovely people on a podcast makes you one of history’s greatest monsters? In the beginning, Robert told us he would shy away from contemporary conservative talking heads like Rogan or Shapiro because they were just dipshits and not actually evil. I was genuinely surprised that we got a JORP episode. yeah, this is more or less how i feel. peterson i think was very much worth discussing, because the stuff he was trying to push and very successfully getting into the mainstream is terrifying rubin was, eh, probably not deserving of an episode, but it was easy to write and fun to dunk on him for an hour properly outlining why joe rogan is dangerous would take a long time and at the end of the day he is just an irresponsible famous guy. i don't think he is actively malicious or evil, although i do think his influence is partly malicious.
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You ever think about doing an episode on the Dulles Brothers? Or maybe I missed it, I missed a bunch at some point.
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Robert, have you thought about doing episodes in a reverse format, where the guest comes in and tells you about a bastard? It seems to me that if you did, like, two of those a year it'd be A) an occasional break for you when things like 'I need to go cover protests' happens, B) an occasional treat for your listeners, and C) a great way for you to get into bastards that might not fit your usual range of interests. I'd love to hear an episode on Walter Breen, for instance, because the utter bastardy that early SF/Fantasy fandom was shot through with is something a lot of people don't know about, but I have no idea if that's a topic you'd want to research - but if you get someone else to research it, well...
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Robert, have you thought about doing episodes in a reverse format, where the guest comes in and tells you about a bastard? It seems to me that if you did, like, two of those a year it'd be A) an occasional break for you when things like 'I need to go cover protests' happens, B) an occasional treat for your listeners, and C) a great way for you to get into bastards that might not fit your usual range of interests. I'd love to hear an episode on Walter Breen, for instance, because the utter bastardy that early SF/Fantasy fandom was shot through with is something a lot of people don't know about, but I have no idea if that's a topic you'd want to research - but if you get someone else to research it, well... the Focus on the Family episodes were like this,
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The problem is it would have to be a guest whom Robert trusted completely to do a real good job, because it would suck if the guest didn’t go as in depth as the episode needed.
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DC Murderverse posted:the Focus on the Family episodes were like this, They were, which is why I wanted to float the idea, as we've already seen excellent proof-of-concept
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Robert, have you thought about doing episodes in a reverse format, where the guest comes in and tells you about a bastard? It seems to me that if you did, like, two of those a year it'd be A) an occasional break for you when things like 'I need to go cover protests' happens, B) an occasional treat for your listeners, and C) a great way for you to get into bastards that might not fit your usual range of interests. I'd love to hear an episode on Walter Breen, for instance, because the utter bastardy that early SF/Fantasy fandom was shot through with is something a lot of people don't know about, but I have no idea if that's a topic you'd want to research - but if you get someone else to research it, well... I think having the Street Fight Radio guys on as guests would be a fantastic way to do an episode or two about U-Line, the business supply company, and the weird hyperconservative family that runs it, and also bought a town. They've been covering U-Line stuff for years, it would be a fantastic crossover episode edit: a brief primer on them: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/07/us/politics/liz-dick-uihlein-republican-donors.html blunt for century fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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I haven’t listened to BtB in a long time besides the JORP eps, had to take a break, but the Knowledge fight guest eps are as good as the Billy Wayne Eps, those guys are extremely funny and smart and I like them a lot
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Bust Rodd posted:I haven’t listened to BtB in a long time besides the JORP eps, had to take a break, but the Knowledge fight guest eps are as good as the Billy Wayne Eps, those guys are extremely funny and smart and I like them a lot Every so often I still listen to the "Alex Jones sort of confesses to murder" clip. One of my all-time favorite podcast moments.
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Is there any more iconic crossover moment than Robert telling Jordan to put the mic down? 
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The IheartRadio ads are fine just jarring in their banality. It's a real advertising vs editorial clash you see in most large organizations, its clear that btb and the other works are something they are proud of on one side of the organization it just doesn't really fit well... Like when AMC had like 1 really good drama or something.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Robert, have you thought about doing episodes in a reverse format, where the guest comes in and tells you about a bastard? It seems to me that if you did, like, two of those a year it'd be A) an occasional break for you when things like 'I need to go cover protests' happens, B) an occasional treat for your listeners, and C) a great way for you to get into bastards that might not fit your usual range of interests. I'd love to hear an episode on Walter Breen, for instance, because the utter bastardy that early SF/Fantasy fandom was shot through with is something a lot of people don't know about, but I have no idea if that's a topic you'd want to research - but if you get someone else to research it, well... This, but with the spin or twist that it be an uplifting or positive episode. I propose this because: The Raoul Wallenberg episode was an absolute delight From the sounds of it, Robert has had quite a stressful/traumatizing year, along with many/most/all of us to varying degrees. Despite the importance of these stories being told about bastards, there are important positive stories to be told as well, and I think I can detect in what I've heard on the pods, a spark of hope or optimism with Robert that hasn't been snuffed out yet. An uplifting ep could be a puff from the bellows to help stoke that ember. Maybe in all of us? What say you, big man? 
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Worst Year Ever is probably my favorite iHeartRadio program atm, I hope it sticks around for 2021
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You could really hear Robert trying not to laugh as he read the police statement complaining about people throwing hot dogs at them.
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Cody & Robert’s pro-interventionism vs anti-interventionism discourse on this week’s WYE is probably the most intense back and forth I’ve ever heard between them and it’s still basically two kittens batting a ball of yarn back and forth, with Katy adorably popping in after every point with juice boxes and cookies to say “you guys are both very smart, I love this”. It’s amazing what an adult conversation between 2 educated friends can sound like compared to pundits squawking at each other.
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Sophie saying “bitchass” redeemed a significant part of 2020 for me. I knew Cohn was a sociopathic jerk but hot drat the outright self loathing. Like, I know how the Cohn story ends but this reframes it in a much more  way. Also yeah wow I knew not a lot about the lavender scare. When 1/5th of a nations workforce is interrogated on their sexuality you’d think it’d be uh, more known, historically.
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On the subject of potential topics, I know they came up a bit on the Andy Ngo episode but Claire Lehmann/Quillette could make for a good episode.
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i still push jack thompson as fun 2 parter some day. not even because of the video game stuff but because he was just a massive massive rear end in a top hat who destroyed his own career and got disbarred because he was a massive weird shithead who like gloated over lawyer dying while saving his wife and or kid from a flooded car or some poo poo and also sending hard core porn to judges.
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Thompson and his game crusade is also interesting because on the one hand you can link it to a ton of far-right views that were emerging in the 90s especially in reaction to Clinton's election, but also because the impact he had on 90s Democrats trying to ride his coattails - it's not a coincidence the 2000 Democratic ticket were composed of the two most anti-game Democratic politicians. Plus he pioneered a lot of the claims that the gun industry them jumped on after Columbine to deflect blame onto culture. Thompson works as a good microcosm of the whole US 90s political scene with Democratic centrist triangulation and Republican deep-dive off the right.
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Chairman Capone posted:Thompson and his game crusade is also interesting because on the one hand you can link it to a ton of far-right views that were emerging in the 90s especially in reaction to Clinton's election, but also because the impact he had on 90s Democrats trying to ride his coattails - it's not a coincidence the 2000 Democratic ticket were composed of the two most anti-game Democratic politicians. Plus he pioneered a lot of the claims that the gun industry them jumped on after Columbine to deflect blame onto culture. Thompson works as a good microcosm of the whole US 90s political scene with Democratic centrist triangulation and Republican deep-dive off the right. thank god that poo poo died mostly. weird uber morality "think of the kids" "ban the sick filth" poo poo seems to be mostly dead now on both sides outside weird parts of the right(evangelicals and such) and sometimes the left. i assume its partly because the game industry is way way too big to gently caress with like that and because everyone plays some sort of game now be it phone games or big RPGs or AAA stuff or nich art stuff. its also kinda become a culture battles thing over spaces now rather than getting rid of the spaces entirely. like chuds getting mad a representation and poo poo rather than head explosions and tits.
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For whatever reason, a lot of the moral panic on the right is back to attacking Hollywood, rather than games. Probably because the Hollywood execs have a lot more money and audience to promote their generally liberal messages (everyone knows when an actor endorses Biden, when's the last time you remember Nolan North or Troy Baker talking politics?) but also that Gamergate and the crusade against "online censorship" became so central to the new radical right (see also vaping and anime). Actually that also might be an interesting subset of an episode on Thompson, the evolution of morality crusades with games on the right.
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Chairman Capone posted:For whatever reason, a lot of the moral panic on the right is back to attacking Hollywood, rather than games. Probably because the Hollywood execs have a lot more money and audience to promote their generally liberal messages (everyone knows when an actor endorses Biden, when's the last time you remember Nolan North or Troy Baker talking politics?) but also that Gamergate and the crusade against "online censorship" became so central to the new radical right (see also vaping and anime). Actually that also might be an interesting subset of an episode on Thompson, the evolution of morality crusades with games on the right. i think north and baker are libs or something but idk or really care. i know a bunch of anime actors are giant weird chuds. but yeah it think its a mix of movies and disney are easier to spin about the evil commie/"SJW" values so they must be "corrected" to to olds/boomers than some game/anime stuff. plus GG and all that poo poo set up a nice beach head for the chuds so while some would probably love to go back to that time, i dont think they will. hell i dont even think the centrists or liberals will either. i mean biden rolled his eyes at the whole "games make teens shoot up schools" poo poo so that ship has sailed. trump was sorta open to it but he is lazy and doesn't care. like are there people who would love to regulate content and poo poo, sure but none of them have actual power and are just twitter weirdos or weird religious nuts. but on topic, yeah it would be an interesting topic because rob touches on it with grossman who when i read about him in high school, i always assumed he was some weird dude who was in the miltary and it hosed him up so much that he didnt want violence/desenstization in media because war is hell and such. But nope, he hates it because he is a loving psycho who believes that America has loving 2000AD/cyberpunk levels of street violence and views games as rivals to his hosed up teaching methods. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Dec 12, 2020 |
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The Roy Cohn episode is def in my top three, and mention of OODA reminded me of something that I was taught when dealing with emotionally and mentally unsound people in my family. Apologies for a Reddit link but it’s called JADE, and doing JADE so when in a lovely situation with someone who say, doesn’t have the best emotional regulation and boundaries, makes poo poo worse, and I definitely see a huge connection with OODA (which if anyone has any more resources on, please shoot me a DM, I’m fascinated). And god that John Waters story loving...ugh. Really need to get on my John Waters/Divine piece. It’s long overdue.
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This week’s WYE was so depressing I started to cry. I try not to live with jealousy in heart because it does nothing but give you pain, but holy poo poo I hate this shithole country and our loving despotic oligarch millionaire telling us to rot in the street while Canadians and Germans get more money than I’ve ever had at one time direct deposited into their bank account every month. The impact $1,500 a month would have on me would be literally life-changing, it defies description how powerful it would be, and yet we allow McConnell and Pelosi to just continue stacking corpses against the door, because there is no radical movement left in our country capable of enacting change, and there is no indication things will ever get better on the horizon. I might need a break from the pod for a week or two, this episode really hosed me up
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Chairman Capone posted:Thompson and his game crusade is also interesting because on the one hand you can link it to a ton of far-right views that were emerging in the 90s especially in reaction to Clinton's election, but also because the impact he had on 90s Democrats trying to ride his coattails - it's not a coincidence the 2000 Democratic ticket were composed of the two most anti-game Democratic politicians. Plus he pioneered a lot of the claims that the gun industry them jumped on after Columbine to deflect blame onto culture. Thompson works as a good microcosm of the whole US 90s political scene with Democratic centrist triangulation and Republican deep-dive off the right. Well heck, now I want a Know Your Enemy episode about him, too! They haven't talked much about the 90s, so far.
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teen witch posted:The Roy Cohn episode is def in my top three, and mention of OODA reminded me of something that I was taught when dealing with emotionally and mentally unsound people in my family. Echoing this. The part with the AIDS quilt gave me actual chills.
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poly and open-minded posted:Echoing this. The part with the AIDS quilt gave me actual chills. It's something that would have driven him insane if he were alive, being told that you are one of us no matter what you said and did and no matter how much you hated us. It is a serious power move
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Double posting but this week should be a doozy because it's all about how the John Birch Society shaped the modern far right.
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Testekill posted:Double posting but this week should be a woozy because it's all about how the John Birch Society shaped the modern far right. And Dan and Jordan from knowledge fight are on so that shot it straight to the top of my list.
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I see a thread simply titled ‘Machetes’ in the podcast forum and think to myself, “Ha, wouldn’t it be funny if this was a discussion just for ‘Behind the Bastards’. And holy poo poo, it is. One pump, one cream.
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Pouring one out for all of the bagels left unthrown in 2020 [Montage of bagels over Enya’s “Only Time”]
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