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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

:lmao:

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oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hheheh.

If we are talking about the decline of America, the idiots in the WH turned down repeatedly the option to get more than 100 million doses apparently up to 500 million from Pfzer before summer. You need two doses to gain full protection. Orange then issued a vague executive order saying America gets vaccine first despite you know, offered more repeatedly. The head of the operation Warp Speed who idiot keeps crediting straight out says he doesn't know wtf. Once again snatching defeat from victory.
:lol:

quote:

“Frankly, I don’t know, and frankly, I’m staying out of this. I can’t comment,” Slaoui said. “I literally don’t know.”

“You don’t know?” asked anchor George Stephanopoulos.

“Yes,” Slaoui said.

“But you’re the chief science adviser for Operation Warp Speed,” Stephanopoulos pressed.

“Our work is, you know, rolling,” Slaoui replied. “We have plans. We feel that we can deliver the vaccines as needed. So I don’t know exactly what this order is about.”

There is a counter theory that there is a business play being made to play off multiple companies for better something??? Maybe price, but $20 a dose is pretty good for something with a crash program with nothing more than a payment on delivery. Certainly not cost plus nonsense. The actual concern is supply as each company can only make so much no matter the price and the fact GOVERNMENT ISN'T A loving BUSINESS.

Fuuuucckk, that fucker can't gently caress off fast enough.

China's vaccine otoh can only produce 300 Million a year after building a new plant. Regardless of its effectiveness of which we know nothing about, or 2 wet beat up boxes of "Medical" supplies diplomacy 10 years to vaccinate your own population isn't exactly winning. Other vaccines have very high (Claimed)production rates.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787

quote:

Moderna has said it aims to ship 500 million doses in 2021 and AstraZeneca has said it will produce 700 million doses by the end of the first quarter of 2021.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
China looks at controversies involving facial recognition in the USA and says, 'hold my beer'.
https://twitter.com/CharlesRollet1/status/1336341734943420416
https://twitter.com/CharlesRollet1/status/1336345130177990657
https://twitter.com/CharlesRollet1/status/1336349266181177347

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



The unnamed country can only salivate.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


China is apparently boosting its social science research funding. https://macropolo.org/china-marxist-ideology-research-funding/?rp=m It probably surprises no-one that this boost in funding is limited to very specific subjects, with more traditional fields of study like law and philosophy actually seeing their funding cut. The subjects which are gaining?

quote:

More significant than how much China spends is where this money is going. Since Xi took office in November 2012, of the 23 social science disciplines the NSSF funds, the three that saw the biggest percentage increases are 1) Marxism & Scientific Socialism; 2) Ethnic Studies; and 3) Party History & Party Building (see Figure 2). This shift in funding came at the expense of other disciplines, with economics, law, literature, and philosophy suffering the steepest declines.

So basically immense sums of money are being poured into "research" on ideological purity, Han supremacist assimilationism and party organisation, or, I poo poo you not, “philosophy and social sciences with Chinese characteristics.” A large share of the pie is directly reserved for research into Xi Jingping Thought, which is definitely a normal thing to do for a leader and not at all a massive case of projecting insecurity about your intelligence :lol:

barbecue at the folks fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Dec 9, 2020

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Why do we get all the tech dystopia poo poo but none of the cool cyberpunk poo poo???

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

UltraRed posted:

Why do we get all the tech dystopia poo poo but none of the cool cyberpunk poo poo???

because the dystopic tech is free and easy to adopt

Loveshaft
Nov 3, 2020

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1336832181273026562?s=20

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Something like that about Hunter had popped up before the election that was allegedly not given coverage by the "mainstream" despite approaching multiple journalist and having publicly verifiable information. It turned out to be absolute bunk and the information was verifiable publicly because it was a collection of public material with no correlation with each other but was package as legit. The links supposedly when all the way to Jimmy Lai with funding for the report as well as some other HK connections. Jimmy when asked about it was pretty much "hell no". If you have something, actual legit journalists would be all over that. One of their key jobs is to look for facts which requires being able to smell BS.

Then there was that dumb af laptop.

I doubt the investigation will go anywhere. They are probably seeking clarification.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Wait, do we still have legit journalists?

snergle
Aug 3, 2013

A kind little mouse!
have a meme i saw in pyf and made me laugh.

The junk collector
Aug 10, 2005
Hey do you want that motherboard?

oohhboy posted:

Something like that about Hunter had popped up before the election that was allegedly not given coverage by the "mainstream" despite approaching multiple journalist and having publicly verifiable information. It turned out to be absolute bunk and the information was verifiable publicly because it was a collection of public material with no correlation with each other but was package as legit. The links supposedly when all the way to Jimmy Lai with funding for the report as well as some other HK connections. Jimmy when asked about it was pretty much "hell no". If you have something, actual legit journalists would be all over that. One of their key jobs is to look for facts which requires being able to smell BS.

Then there was that dumb af laptop.

I doubt the investigation will go anywhere. They are probably seeking clarification.

Hunter is a bit infamous and this investigation has been going on for something like 3 years now apparently. It also about tax fraud, not specifically related to China. The conspiracy theory I've heard about it is that they put it on hold because they didn't want to hurt Biden's chances in the election and that Biden himself is tied into his son's dealings but the proof of that seems pretty tenuous.

Weka
May 5, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

WarpedNaba posted:

Wait, do we still have legit journalists?

Greenwald seems ok. Other than that...

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM
glenn greenwald resigned from the website he founded because the other editors wouldn't let him rant about hunter biden's laptop

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Greenwald did a speedrun from legit journalist to dumbest motherfucker on Earth in the past few years.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Dec 10, 2020

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.
The fact that all the genocide-denier tankie media were sending messages of support to Glenn Greenwald when he quit, and that Greenwald immediately went on Tucker Carlson's white power hour, tells you all you need to know about GG.

https://twitter.com/chineseembinus/status/1336888614052048897?s=21

In other news, the Chinese embassy is claiming they were hacked. The hacker deciding the only thing they wanted to do was retweet one (1) Donald Trump tweet. Sames as when a (presumably the same) hacker broke into the Chinese ambassdor to the UK's account to like one (1) footjob porn video.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Grand Fromage posted:

Greenwald did a speedrun from legit journalist to dumbest motherfucker on Earth in the past few years.

That explains why the tweet felt off (Mixing news with opinion) even before I looked through the replies which are varying levels of batshit. The last time I heard of him was back when he was legit. :wtf: Happened here?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


oohhboy posted:

That explains why the tweet felt off (Mixing news with opinion) even before I looked through the replies which are varying levels of batshit. The last time I heard of him was back when he was legit. :wtf: Happened here?

Another victim of 2016 brokebrain.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

oohhboy posted:

That explains why the tweet felt off (Mixing news with opinion) even before I looked through the replies which are varying levels of batshit. The last time I heard of him was back when he was legit. :wtf: Happened here?

Hillary Derangement Syndrome

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

WarpedNaba posted:

Wait, do we still have legit journalists?

Yes but not Greenwald.

Loveshaft
Nov 3, 2020

oohhboy posted:

Something like that about Hunter had popped up before the election that was allegedly not given coverage by the "mainstream" despite approaching multiple journalist and having publicly verifiable information. It turned out to be absolute bunk and the information was verifiable publicly because it was a collection of public material with no correlation with each other but was package as legit. The links supposedly when all the way to Jimmy Lai with funding for the report as well as some other HK connections. Jimmy when asked about it was pretty much "hell no". If you have something, actual legit journalists would be all over that. One of their key jobs is to look for facts which requires being able to smell BS.

Then there was that dumb af laptop.

I doubt the investigation will go anywhere. They are probably seeking clarification.

The information on the laptop regarding the Biden’s connections — especially Hunter — to China is real.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1337046319924457473?s=20

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Not Russian disinformation but Russian, uh, information.

It's easy to smear your enemy when everyone is a crook (see also how CCP anti corruption arrests always seem to nip political threats in the bud).

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So he is claiming conspiracy on top of a conspiracy. Dozens and dozens of people had to have some knowledge of this, was not interested in breaking the story or hungry or curious, all felt that Biden had to win, inside a dozen large and small organisations that no one else had stumbled upon, all these people somehow managed to stay quiet or coincidentally cooperated with each person's individual choice. The CIA went out of it's way, all to bury the story of this magic laptop.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


I mean to believe the Hunter Biden laptop story you'd have to believe that he flew across the country drunk to drop off his laptop (which he promptly forgot he ever owned) to a Mac repair shop run by a blind man that conveniently no longer exists. That blind mind immediately searches Hunter Biden's personal files and finds "MyCrimes.txt" which he is so concerned about he runs straight to Rudy Guliani instead of the FBI.

So basically to take that all at face value you'd have to have literal brain damage or be Rudy Guliani, but I repeat myself. Like there's a reason no legitimate news organisation would take it because the story is so unbelievably loving stupid and tainted. Glenn Greenwald deciding to throw away what was once a legitimate investigational journalism career and throwing in with right wing monsters solely to pursue a single minded grudge filled hateboner against anything Democrat is actually pretty depressing.

Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Dec 10, 2020

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost

oohhboy posted:

So he is claiming conspiracy on top of a conspiracy. Dozens and dozens of people had to have some knowledge of this, was not interested in breaking the story or hungry or curious, all felt that Biden had to win, inside a dozen large and small organisations that no one else had stumbled upon, all these people somehow managed to stay quiet or coincidentally cooperated with each person's individual choice. The CIA went out of it's way, all to bury the story of this magic laptop.

the state department is powerful indeed

Weka
May 5, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
I don't know a heck of a lot about the case but the computer repairman seems to be easily identified as John Paul Mac Isaac.

Here's WaPo saying it's maybe Hunter's laptop.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/24/hunter-biden-laptop-disinformation/

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe claimed that the laptop was "not part of some Russian disinformation campaign"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/ratcliffe-says-no-proof-foreign-actors-tied-biden-laptop-officials-n1243874

Thinking the Democrats don't have deep ties to media and foreign capital is extremely naive. Greenwald seems to be mostly interested in criticizing anyone and everyone and I think, regardless of the veracity of these documents, he makes some valid points in his article.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-biden-censored

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Weka posted:

I don't know a heck of a lot about the case but the computer repairman seems to be easily identified as John Paul Mac Isaac.

Here's WaPo saying it's maybe Hunter's laptop.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/24/hunter-biden-laptop-disinformation/

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe claimed that the laptop was "not part of some Russian disinformation campaign"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/ratcliffe-says-no-proof-foreign-actors-tied-biden-laptop-officials-n1243874

Thinking the Democrats don't have deep ties to media and foreign capital is extremely naive. Greenwald seems to be mostly interested in criticizing anyone and everyone and I think, regardless of the veracity of these documents, he makes some valid points in his article.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-biden-censored

It also seems that the highly publicized email can be verified to some extent using Google's DKIM keys, specifically that the email was in fact sent using the GMail servers and has not been tampered with. The keys with which it is signed were used between 2012 and 2016, but the exact "Date:" field on the email could have been forged by the sender. https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/hunter-dkim

Of course the email itself doesn't say "here's the big list of crimes you and I have planned, and also here are the ones we've already done", it's kind of a nothing message on its own. But it didn't originate from some Russian guy opening notepad.exe and typing up a fake email.

I'm aware of all this because I came across a blog post (https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2020/11/16/ok-google-please-publish-your-dkim-secret-keys/) some time ago, which says essentially DKIM was never meant to be used to verify email authenticity, so Google should just rotate & release their secret keys every year or so, which would allow anyone to fake old emails. Edit: to be clear I think that blog post is pretty dumb and it kind of seems like the guy is frustrated that verifiable emails keep getting leaked...

Pham Nuwen fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Dec 11, 2020

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

I mean to believe the Hunter Biden laptop story you'd have to believe that he flew across the country drunk to drop off his laptop (which he promptly forgot he ever owned) to a Mac repair shop run by a blind man that conveniently no longer exists. That blind mind immediately searches Hunter Biden's personal files and finds "MyCrimes.txt" which he is so concerned about he runs straight to Rudy Guliani instead of the FBI.
The part where the computer repair shop guy immediately calls Rudy Giuliani was the more reasonable part of this scheme

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

https://i.imgur.com/RqITBRS.gifv

McGavin fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Dec 11, 2020

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀



best to just link to the mp4 with no tags
https://i.imgur.com/RqITBRS.mp4

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

That's what I get for phone postin'. It always looks fine in Awful App.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Mr. Fix It posted:

best to just link to the mp4 with no tags
https://i.imgur.com/RqITBRS.mp4

Sliding into my work parking lot with absolutely zero traction was one of the scarier moments of my adult life.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



the great fall of china

Weka
May 5, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
The laughing though.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
While I am not saying I don't appreciate the move, this could have been done years ago along with many other tools.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55269879

quote:

The US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has ordered certain US telecommunications companies to remove Huawei equipment from their network.

The FCC has also started the process of revoking China Telecom's authorisation to operate in the US.

The "rip and replace" order is the latest US move against Huawei made on national security grounds.

The order includes subsidies for smaller carriers for removing and replacing the equipment.

However, the commission can't actually implement the reimbursements without the approval of funding from congress.

The FCC also began the process of revoking China Telecom's authorisation to "provide domestic interstate and international telecommunications services within the United States".

The company's US subsidiary was asked in April to "show cause why the Commission should not start a process for revoking and terminating" its authorisation.

The FCC said that China Telecom had "failed to provide a satisfactory response to the concerns".

While this isn't proof nor do I have any, the timing and the rate seems to indicate my theory Orange has been sandbagging anti-CCP moves despite his rhetoric might have something to it. Right now he is busy re-enacting Downfall and before that the election thus not focused on blocking the rest of the administration actually doing things nor wreaking poo poo for the hell of it.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
now is china's turn

China's tainted cotton

quote:

China is forcing hundreds of thousands of Uighurs and other minorities into hard, manual labour in the vast cotton fields of its western region of Xinjiang, according to new research seen by the BBC.

Based on newly discovered online documents, it provides the first clear picture of the potential scale of forced labour in the picking of a crop that accounts for a fifth of the world’s cotton supply and is used widely throughout the global fashion industry.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010




the unnamed country can only emancipate

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
This line in the new york times today stood out to me:

quote:

Eddy Cue, Apple’s senior vice president for internet software and services, who has been at the company since 1989, has told partners that “the two things we will never do are hard-core nudity and China,”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/business/media/apple-gawker-tim-cook.html#click=https://t.co/EoQUZsj1k6

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

One of the biggest mistakes naive people can make about China is thinking it is anything except the exactly identical eastern hemisphere counterpart of like the worst kind of white Europeans in history.

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Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
From the Schad thread:
Chinese boat seized for illegal shark fishing in the Galapagos crashes into dam.

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