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My enjoyment of christmas went up alot% when I decided I wasn't going to put myself through the torture of spending several days with my unpleasant father, and basically have a nice day off at home with my girlfriend, with a bit nicer food than usual. Such a waste of the days off for many years when I went and endured poo poo opinions and disapproval. Getting heckin big nowadays 
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https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1338825623473680385?s=19 Curious. It's almost like this was her goal all along. 
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Dec 15, 2020 13:55
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I normally prefer to do Christmas with friends but I do miss my family gatherings this year.
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Dec 15, 2020 13:55
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therattle posted:I'm Jewish. We have had gatherings of friends on/around Xmas and it's nice but the day itself has zero significance. Every one of my family's Christmas traditions comes from the Jewish side of the family. Why they have these traditions I don't know but I suspect it's to do with my great grandfather being a notably weird man. Though it helps that my dad's family are dour Scottish protestants of the not into Christmas kind.
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Dec 15, 2020 13:56
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I celebrate Overture Day on 18th December and Rush Day on 21st December. Tchaikovsky looks a bit like Ceremy Jorbyn don't you think? (This is the theme to the end of V for Vendetta for those without the benefit of a classical education). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2W1Wi2U9sQ Attention all planets of the solar federation: We have assumed Control. We have assumed Control. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyxvOHwdFPA
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Dec 15, 2020 13:57
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Comrade Fakename posted:Christmas is a collection of ancient pagan religious festivals that have been defunct for many centuries and has been co-opted by modern society into a non-religious excuse to, again, have a party in the winter. All the Christians managed to do is staple a name onto it. Incidentally, Easter is exactly the same thing in the spring, but the Christians didn't even manage to get the name for that one. I'm pretty sure Easter has something to do with an actual biblical narrative. One that can be tied down pretty firmly, date-wise, by reference to Passover. Of course it's got a load of poo poo associate with it from non-Christian cultures (e.g., the name) but Easter is the big one for practicing Christians, Christmas is just food-and-presents-day
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TACD posted:Thread is rapidly accelerating towards Festivus Turns out when you google Festivus you get a nice little Easter (Ēostre?) egg.
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Dec 15, 2020 14:03
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This year is the first Christmas that my partner and I are celebrating by ourselves and the only turkeys I could find anywhere were large and expensive. Ended up buying a duck in the end, cheaper and will probably still get a couple of dinners out of it. Planning to honey roast it so should be quite nice. Tesco has whole lobsters going for £7 each which I’ve never had before and it’s really tempting to try. I’ve spent £7 on worse things before.
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stev posted:https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1338825623473680385?s=19 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Tchaikovsky looks a bit like Ceremy Jorbyn don't you think? Borrovan posted:Yeah I know the Christmas one is almost certainly true to the extent that nobody even has any alternative proposition anymore, but, uh... what?
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Dec 15, 2020 14:13
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big believer in the meaning of the krampus
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Hell of a lot of pressure on the Tories to cancel Christmas now, from the BMJ, HSJ, head of the doctors union, even loving Keir Starmer. I guess unless they literally have tanks on the motorways or something, everyone would ignore it though. People are planning on taking the piss even now - a lady I work with was telling me that she was having 2x households round to hers on Xmas eve-Xmas morning, and then another 2x sets of families on Xmas afternoon-Boxing Day. And apparently that's fine because there will be no more than three households there at any one time. I said that I didn't realise you were actually allowed to mix with a potentially infinite number of households as long as it was only three at a time, but... we're colleagues, and I didn't labour the point.
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stev posted:https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1338825623473680385?s=19 pinknews.co.uk posted:Notorious British anti-trans columnist Julie Burchill says that using cocaine every day for three decades caused her no “lasting damage”. 
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The Perfect Element posted:Hell of a lot of pressure on the Tories to cancel Christmas now, from the BMJ, HSJ, head of the doctors union, even loving Keir Starmer. i think you can only expect people to deny themselves some small joy for so long. lots of people are at the end of their rope and just want 1 or 2 days where they can be merry and vibe.
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Borrovan posted:Yeah I know the Christmas one is almost certainly true to the extent that nobody even has any alternative proposition anymore, but, uh... what? Easter, just like Christmas, is a mish-mash of ancient pagan fertility celebrations, so much so that it is literally named after the pagan fertility god Oestre (as in oestrogen). All the signifiers of Easter - eggs, bunny rabbits, green fields - have nothing to do with Christian symbology (beyond an after-the-fact rationalisation that it's something to do with "rebirth" or whatever). Christians have a better excuse for the date, but it barely effects the actual celebration.
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Darth Walrus posted:Anyone tried the Irish cream? I haven't yet, but 'alcoholic and creamy' just seems like such an obviously successful fudge flavour. Oh god a white russian flavour fudge...
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e: ^^^^^yes pleaseLord Ludikrous posted:Tesco has whole lobsters going for £7 each which I’ve never had before and it’s really tempting to try. I’ve spent £7 on worse things before. My advice is to buy a third lobster: the tails & claws are really good, the rest is kind of a faff, but you can boil it all up to make a real tasty stock for bisque or chowder. The third lobster comes in because it would have been nice to have a bit more of the waste-parts to make slightly more stock, and also an extra tail & claws to go in the chowder.
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I'm sharing this because as any fule kno, islamaphobic idiots will start saying the virus is all because of muslims not getting vaccinated. (Much as they tried to claim the govt wasn't doing anything to stop muslims meeting in mosques despite the muslim council for Britain stopping congregational activities several days BEFORE the C of E decided likewise!) Fatwa on taking the covid-19 vaccine: https://www.amjaonline.org/fatwa/en/87763/the-ruling-on-getting-the-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine quote:Fatwa ID: 87763 Ed: tl:dr - herd immunity via let everyone get infected = bad, herd immunity via vaccination = good. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Dec 15, 2020 |
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Lord Ludikrous posted:This year is the first Christmas that my partner and I are celebrating by ourselves and the only turkeys I could find anywhere were large and expensive. Done duck for just 2 people at Xmas before, it rules. PRO-TIP, get it on a rack in the oven and cook all the veg in the fat that drips down. Aldi or Lidl do whole lobsters for around that price too, possibly cheaper (girlfriend already bought them) and aside from the ball ache of preparing them, some good eating. Makes no odds for us as we've just done the 2 of us for the last 3 years. Much as I love my family, & my sister recently returned from the Far East after 5 years, I'm not travelling 200 miles to piss about with contrived bubbles when I can just do a Zoom chat before they all watch Strictly. Done Xmas on my own due to finances/work twice too, and it's depressing as gently caress. Especially when you finish at 10pm Xmas Eve and haven't had any chance to get something in resembling a Xmas dinner. Hitting up a petrol station on the 25th for something to eat & a bottle of wine was one of my more low points.
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Duck absolutely rules, turkey is so, so bland. We do beef, get a big rib of beef each year - much tastier than turkey and no more expensive.
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My family has always had goose. It's the OG xmas bird and it is incredible, like a meatier duck. And the skin... oh my god the skin.
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Dec 15, 2020 14:37
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I'm sharing this because as any fule kno, islamaphobic idiots will start saying the virus is all because of muslims not getting vaccinated. (Much as they tried to claim the govt wasn't doing anything to stop muslims meeting in mosques despite the muslim council for Britain stopping congregational activities several days BEFORE the C of E decided likewise!) The tl;dr for this is 'vaccination good' i think? It's a bit dense for me to spend more time reading right now lol.
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Grey Hunter posted:Hindsight being 20/20, we should have taken the stupid deal. reminder lib dems and CHUK are the reason we don't have mays deal + Customs union
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I’ll be spending Xmas alone for the first time ever (my wife will not hear “don’t go to your mums”) and I’ve been wondering what to have to eat, but as it turns out I accidentally drunk ordered 5kg of biltong on Friday night so that’s that sorted.
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I've long been of the opinion you should just have pizza on Christmas day. My family always got so agitated with one another over christmas dinner, tempers got frayed and days before everyone was paniking about the food. Pizza, beers, whisky. Have a roast on a less important day and just lounge about on Christmas imo. No one else agrees with me and now that I'm an adult I have to go round to other people's (family etc) for Christmas so I don't get to do it anymore.
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Compromise with pizza and roast potatoes and I bet you'd find many allies appearing.
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Convex posted:
quote:While it would be tempting to link an altered state of mind to Burchill’s columns, it’s glaringly obvious that plenty of people who use drugs manage to get through life without regularly spouting this kind of abuse.
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We’re having goose for the first time in my life this Christmas because turkey can do one, will be a bit disappointed if we can’t even see anyone else over Christmas to even offload some of it, every area of West Yorkshire now has a COVID rate below 170 cases per 100,000 but needs must. I was always fine with just skipping this one Christmas but my fiancée has her heart set on it after this lovely year so  Hoping they do cancel it and threaten big fines so that she’ll accept writing it off
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Christmas was more fun when I was a child, as an adult it is just the busiest time of year at work and I spend a lot of time seeing how unhappy it makes everyone and how much blood, sweat and tears go into supporting everybody else gorging themselves on poo poo. It is rather difficult not to view it as just the apex of capitalism, how everything is focused around getting people to consume as much as possible. It isn't just a holiday, it is a holiday for people who have jobs that give them time off, for a lot of people it is the opposite of a holiday.
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thespaceinvader posted:The tl;dr for this is 'vaccination good' i think? Yes. Maybe i should go back and put that at the bottom!
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otoh making a big occasion of some auspicious date and gorging decadently on food and gifts massively predates capitalism and will outlast it by a very long time too
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Communist Thoughts posted:otoh making a big occasion of some auspicious date and gorging decadently on food and gifts massively predates capitalism and will outlast it by a very long time too That may be the case but under our current system it means some people get to do that while other people get to facilitate it happening.
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its incredible seeing some of the knots people are tying themselves up in to cover up starmer being poo poo yesterday lol
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Sanford posted:I’ll be spending Xmas alone for the first time ever (my wife will not hear “don’t go to your mums”) and I’ve been wondering what to have to eat, but as it turns out I accidentally drunk ordered 5kg of biltong on Friday night so that’s that sorted. OMG, I’ll buy some of that off you if you don’t want it all. My son and I will be very happy Turkey is dry and flavourless. Duck is superior in every way. And it can’t be that intensively reared like factory chickens
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I generally enjoy Christmas, but the past few years have been a case of slowly rebuilding my good associations with this time of year after a couple of horrible ones. Basically I had a stretch of a few years after I moved away from family and got a 'proper' job where I felt the pressure to spend money I couldn't really afford and time I didn't really have. Said job was on a weekly newspaper which, while we got 7-10 days off over the Christmas/New Year period, still put out an issue every week so one, sometimes two issues had to be produced before the break within the standard schedule (this for a title where the staff and resources had been cut to the absolute minimum required to get each issue out the door in normal times). Making room for the Christmas issues meant squeezing time in the schedule from the middle of November. So everyone went off for Christmas absolutely frazzled and strung out. In 2014 I made the daft decision to try and see all of my widely dispersed family, so fresh from the chaos of the Christmas schedule I spent virtually the entire break driving about 1000 miles around the country, essentially wiping out my bank account on fuel. The next year, after a particularly lovely run-up (and a year overall in which my complete lack of social life outside work coupled to an increasingly toxic work environment was taking its toll) I ended up on a rain-lashed street in Liskeard, Cornwall, having two simultaneous phone calls - one to my bank to try and arrange an emergency overdraft and one to my Mum to simultaneously ask for money and relitigate the whole "why will I only be seeing you on New Year's Eve not Christmas" discussion. I ended up having an emotional breakdown in early January when I had to get back on the publishing treadmill and the terrible interpersonal atmosphere at work came to a head. It's been better since then, in all aspects. This is the first Christmas since where I actually feel festive and the whole thing isn't just an endurance test of raging anxiety. Anyone who, for whatever reason, doesn't enjoy Christmas or who wants/doesn't want to do it a particular way has my sympathy and support, for what it's worth.
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If you're eating any game, watch out for the shot, a cracked tooth is not a nice way to spend Christmas. I like watching old cooking programmes to see how unappetising the food looks and no apparent thought put to food hygiene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kunuXThp51E
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I'm veggie now so I cannot partake in the Christmas birds, but Goose is the king of them without a doubt. Its like duck but richer and there's enough of it for everyone
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This is going to be live-streamed on Facebook at 7pm tonight for anyone interested: https://www.facebook.com/events/1060390087765457/ quote:A celebration of Jewish Radicalism Facebook account not necessary to watch it as it is 'public'.
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OwlFancier posted:That may be the case but under our current system it means some people get to do that while other people get to facilitate it happening. yea that certainly sounds like the history of all hitherto society
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