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toasterwarrior posted:Doppleganger activation gives i-frames, decent for emergencies. What I've found tricky is chain Just Cut timing, I'm sure I've only done it by accident and I really want to learn it since it's very useful for boosting concentration along with the damage. It's also ridiculous that initiating doppelganger and then entering SDT doesn't drain doppelganger meter. It actually charges the doppelganger meter until SDT is over. Edit: I'm wrong. It does take up both. I just have collected a white orb that I didn't notice. J2DK fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Dec 15, 2020 |
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J2DK posted:It's also ridiculous that initiating doppelganger and then entering SDT doesn't drain doppelganger meter. It actually charges the doppelganger meter until SDT is over. Holy poo poo is that right? So you can pop dopple, fight until you're about to run out, pop SDT, then either convert the replenished meter into SDT again or just go for another round of dopple?
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Any advice on how to do the red hot kick after Starfall in SDT?
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toasterwarrior posted:Holy poo poo is that right? So you can pop dopple, fight until you're about to run out, pop SDT, then either convert the replenished meter into SDT again or just go for another round of dopple? No. I'm dumb and must have collected a white orb. I finished my platinum trophy and just tested again. My bad. Spermando posted:Any advice on how to do the red hot kick after Starfall in SDT? Just hold the melee button during Starfall until the next move starts. I can't get it to trigger outside of battle, though.
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toasterwarrior posted:Also I guess I'm kinda disappointed at Vergil's block/parry; my timing is probably way off for the actual parry but also it doesn't really seem to be worth the concentration loss if you get the block. There is no real "timing" mechanic with Vergil's block. You just hold lock on, and if you have sufficient concentration, you block. It's basically a way to minimize the cost of a mistake at a small consecration loss; it's not something you should be actively seeking to do like Dante with Royal Guard. The "parry" is just Vergil reflecting projectiles at level 2 concentration or higher. This has been pretty extensively tested, and either the timing is so strict that literally no one has figured out how to do it "correctly," or that's all there is to it.
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I'm sorry to keep posting dumb twitter poo poo but I find it all entertaining because I'm an idiot. https://twitter.com/pepsicore/status/1339326595027398656?s=19
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As busted as Vergil is, I still struggle with Furies, just can't get the parry timing down. I try to just do the SDT Beowulf pound to kill them on spawn but that's not always an option and then I spend a few minutes playing grabass with them. 
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I have not played Vergil yet but I imagine Starfall/Stardrop/whatever that washing machine move with Beowulf is called is good for parrying
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Dec 17, 2020 00:37
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Just jumping with beo can parry too.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:31
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Mirage Edge Stinger is my go to, even better when you're at high Concentration. EDIT: Man, I'm never gonna be truly good at Vergil if I can't do chain Judgement Cuts
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Dec 17, 2020 01:54
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The Vergil music DLC says that it's unlockable, but how do you unlock it? I saw a thing it was beating the game as Vergil, which I did (on Son of Sparda), and it didn't unlock it. Is it specifically for beating Devil Hunter or is it something else?
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I legitimately never considered ME Stinger, that does the trick (heh) and floors them after like 2 so I can be motivated all over them, thanks! Judgement cut chains are hard, but I think the easiest is from the first hit of aerial rave to practice the timing. It's honestly the only one I can consistently hit but so far I've only been punished for it by not looking quite as cool as I should. It is the ultimate shame for sure, but hey, baby steps.
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I want Nico to yell about how stylish I am. how the gently caress do I make it happen
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Are you guys getting crashes while trying to load up Mission 19 as Vergil? This was working fine yesterday and now I can't do poo poo, was there a stealth patch or something
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I just played through mission 19 as Vergil several minutes ago and had no issues.
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Ok apparently it was an issue with the new NVIDIA drivers and a thing I had to change in the config file. Back to learning Vergil, and glad that I now understand what to do to even do chain JCs in the first place. Now it's time to get the timing down to instinct...if it wasn't for my controller's jump button now beginning to stick
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Man JC chains are loving sick as hell, cleans up like 90% of the enemies in this game once you get good enough to spam it consistently. I'm glad that it even just shits completely on Judeccas and locks them into a worthless parry loop; god I loving hate them and their ability to just tech out of any combo instantly.
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I think they don't teleport nearly as much if you avoid hard knockdowns and try to uppercut them after the third or fourth hit in a combo.
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Why are they called "mirage blades" and not summoned swords? It sounds like capcom lost the trademark or something
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Sounds cooler.
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Alkarl posted:As busted as Vergil is, I still struggle with Furies, just can't get the parry timing down. I try to just do the SDT Beowulf pound to kill them on spawn but that's not always an option and then I spend a few minutes playing grabass with them. I use helm breaker with Dante and Vergil. I use split with Nero. V, I charge a hedgehog with Shadow. You really only have to memorize one of their attack stances. When they crouch and hold their blade across the chest, they're about to lunge straight at you. The other two stances give you time to react. You will see them either running in the air or running to the side before they come at you properly. I find that it's enough time to jump and air trick/air hike as they teleport the first time and helm breaker on reaction to the second teleport/actual lunging attack. If you already knew this, then my bad. You can always put on the sword belt and spam helm breaker as long as they aren't devil triggered.
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Furies were giving me trouble as Vergil, so I tried something out and found out that if you equip beowulf and mash jump, they can't touch you, flush hits them first every time. It was on SoS at least
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Strelok604 posted:Furies were giving me trouble as Vergil, so I tried something out and found out that if you equip beowulf and mash jump, they can't touch you, flush hits them first every time. It was on SoS at least Beowulf Flush also works wonders on Empusa Queens and Proto Angelos, BTW.
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J2DK posted:I use helm breaker with Dante and Vergil. I use split with Nero. V, I charge a hedgehog with Shadow. You really only have to memorize one of their attack stances. When they crouch and hold their blade across the chest, they're about to lunge straight at you. The other two stances give you time to react. You will see them either running in the air or running to the side before they come at you properly. I find that it's enough time to jump and air trick/air hike as they teleport the first time and helm breaker on reaction to the second teleport/actual lunging attack. If you already knew this, then my bad. You can always put on the sword belt and spam helm breaker as long as they aren't devil triggered. This is also good advice, and I appreciate it! Between this and ME Stinger, I think I've got them down now. The one floor in Bloody Palace with 3 Furies was a roadblock for me for awhile, but now I can get through without getting hilariously owned!
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Sooo....am I getting this right? Using Vergil's super moves uses full SDT bar outside of SDT but uses only like 1/3 of the bar in SDT? And Also I can just turn off the SDT whenever I want?
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It is a rather strange balance decision, letting Vergil do 3 or 4 supers in a row if you take the time to activate SDT. Not really complaining tho :P
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I like the implication that Vergil is more comfortable and practiced in his true demon form vs Dante
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Playing as him really makes you wonder how he lost to Dante so many times when he can do all this
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Strelok604 posted:Playing as him really makes you wonder how he lost to Dante so many times when he can do all this 
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Strelok604 posted:Playing as him really makes you wonder how he lost to Dante so many times when he can do all this Dante's boss fight answers that. He is just as bullshit.
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The bullshit AI Dante from 4 and now in 5 are basically what it's like for normal people/average demons to go up against him. He acts all cool and cocky but if he really wants to he will just turn on Royal Guard and walk in your face until you flinch.
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The Shame Boy posted:The bullshit AI Dante from 4 and now in 5 are basically what it's like for normal people/average demons to go up against him. He acts all cool and cocky but if he really wants to he will just turn on Royal Guard and walk in your face until you flinch. Yeah it's worth remembering that Dante as we are encouraged to play him is a dude who is constantly loving around at all times. I think the closest you get to seeing him in full Go Time mode is DMC1 and that's partially a product of it being the first but also is the time he beats the legendary supergodbeing that apparently clowned all over Vergil. A Dante who wasn't loving around trying to look cool would be goddamn terrifying. Admittedly this is also true of his brother, Mr "If I look uncool during a fight I literally grow less powerful."
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If I have a PS5 is DMC5SE worth double dipping for? I mean I know Virgil is DLC for PC but it is tempting to have it look shinier and newer, if possible.
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Unlucky7 posted:If I have a PS5 is DMC5SE worth double dipping for? I mean I know Virgil is DLC for PC but it is tempting to have it look shinier and newer, if possible. It depends on how fancy your PC is. The big selling point over the PC version isn't Virgil but Legendary Dark Knight mode so how much fun you'll get out of that basically determines if it's worth the cost. I'd wait for a price drop at least.
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