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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Josh Barro has been making this point for a while - our number one barrier to infrastructure fixes and improvements is that they're really loving expensive and take too long.

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1338969053466157064?s=19

It might be applying logic to a situation that deserves none, but it's a reasonable idea. Fuckin talk with the world, steal their ideas for building poo poo faster/better, and then do it.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Dec 15, 2020

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lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
The RoI is so long it doesn't make sense for anyone to spend political capital on it as they probably won't benefit from it. Its also hard to see the benefit and correctly attribute it. Humans don't operate well on that type of time scale.

Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.
Pillbug
Infrastructure also takes longer then 4 years so why would anyone do it. Need results for the next election dammit

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

facialimpediment posted:

Except for the Department of Energy, that should go back to being a Nuclear Brain Surgeon like it was before.

CURSE THIS drat MONKEY'S PAW

https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1338974481080086530?s=19

(she was fine as governor, but she's a politician damnit)

Edit: a politician with ties to the auto industry when Biden wants to go very, very green/electric! Makes more sense that way. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/15/biden-to-tap-former-michigan-gov-granholm-to-lead-energy-department-445782

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Dec 15, 2020

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
On the one hand, urgh, Buttigieg. On the other hand, hahahaha, eat poo poo rahm

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Acebuckeye13 posted:

On the other hand, hahahaha, eat poo poo rahm

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Acebuckeye13 posted:

On the one hand, urgh, Buttigieg. On the other hand, hahahaha, eat poo poo rahm

OK, when you say it like this

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

facialimpediment posted:

CURSE THIS drat MONKEY'S PAW

https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1338974481080086530?s=19

(she was fine as governor, but she's a politician damnit)

Edit: a politician with ties to the auto industry when Biden wants to go very, very green/electric! Makes more sense that way. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/15/biden-to-tap-former-michigan-gov-granholm-to-lead-energy-department-445782

This is the first appointment I've been actually upset about. Biden should really know better.
As far as Buttigieg goes,

Acebuckeye13 posted:

hahahaha, eat poo poo rahm

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Over here just smdh y'all expected better.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Wasabi the J posted:

Over here just smdh y'all expected better.

Biden already told us pre election that better things aren't possible so par for the course

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/adamwren/status/1338936103483691019?s=20

Enjoying board games is all the qualification one needs

quote:

"In South Bend, Buttigieg sees his job as being able to make the trains run on time"

Nothing against Buttigieg, but for a second I thought this was about a Trump appointee.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Acebuckeye13 posted:

On the other hand, hahahaha, eat poo poo rahm

:emptyquote:

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

A Bad Poster posted:

From the comments:

https://twitter.com/mg81992/status/1338933816581369865?s=19

:lol: De Vos is rich as poo poo and has been using her position to make herself more rich. These people need to learn to respect their enemies, especially since they've been getting their asses kicked by them for the past 20 years.

I'm curious if this twitter idiot realizes DeVos is in charge of education, it's Mitch McConnells' wife who runs transportation under diaper don.

Though I am absolutely certain there's a bunch of dirty money around Chau, her position and her shipping company family back in Taiwan.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

facialimpediment posted:

Josh Barro has been making this point for a while - our number one barrier to infrastructure fixes and improvements is that they're really loving expensive and take too long.

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1338969053466157064?s=19

It might be applying logic to a situation that deserves none, but it's a reasonable idea. Fuckin talk with the world, steal their ideas for building poo poo faster/better, and then do it.

Their highways aren't meant to deal with nearly as much semi traffic right? And aren't semis 99.9% of all actual wear on bridges tunnels and roads?

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

The amount of wear a given vehicle causes to a road when passing over it once scales with the fifth power of per-axle load. Passenger cars are practically a non-factor.

Also, if you don't have the ask/tell traffic engineering thread bookmarked you're really missing out: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3177805&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Dec 16, 2020

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



SquirrelyPSU posted:

OK, when you say it like this

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/adamwren/status/1338936103483691019?s=20

Enjoying board games is all the qualification one needs

That's a game for babies! 18XX or bust Mayor.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Expanse Season 5, episodes 1-3 just released a day early.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08MNBLQJF/ref=share_ios_season

I'll get to them this weekend, just letting y'all know :shobon:

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
Grand Tour Malaysia also comes out on Friday finally

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Stravag posted:

Their highways aren't meant to deal with nearly as much semi traffic right? And aren't semis 99.9% of all actual wear on bridges tunnels and roads?

Not by so much as to cause significant increases in the design. It's a problem that affects non road infrastructure too.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Grand Tour Malaysia also comes out on Friday finally

gently caress yes

Also season finale of Mandalorian is Friday

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


shame on an IGA posted:

Also, if you don't have the ask/tell traffic engineering thread bookmarked you're really missing out: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3177805&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

I think I just burst a blood vessel in my eye.

Woofer
Mar 2, 2020

Nick Soapdish posted:

Biden already told us pre election that better things aren't possible so par for the course

They aren’t possible because we don’t want better.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Jesus, Granholm doesn't even have a B.S.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Stravag posted:

Their highways aren't meant to deal with nearly as much semi traffic right? And aren't semis 99.9% of all actual wear on bridges tunnels and roads?

Italy is the country that had a bridge fall because they used bootleg mafia concrete.

Spain is the country that had to hire the french to build their modern marvel bridge.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Wasabi the J posted:

Italy is the country that had a bridge fall because they used bootleg mafia concrete.

Spain is the country that had to hire the french to build their modern marvel bridge.

youre gonna have to be more specific


quote:

6 August 2018 . Following the explosion of a LPG tanker, the viaduct-bridge of the Casalecchio A1-A14 motorway junction collapses. One dead and 145 wounded.

9 March 2017. The collapse of the overpass on the A14 between Loreto and Ancona causes two deaths and two injuries, involving the cars below.

April 18, 2017. A viaduct of the Fossano ring road collapses, in the province of Cuneo. The structure was built in the nineties and inaugurated in 2000. Only by chance there were no victims: no one was passing above.

23 January 2017 . A bridge collapses in Calabria, the Fiumara Allaro, fortunately there is no victim.

October 28, 2016 . The Annone overpass collapses, in the province of Lecco, which passes over the “Valassina”, the SS 36 that connects Milan to the upper Brianza. The bridge collapses due to the passage of a truck of over 108 tons carrying steel coils: it crushes the Audi of Claudio Bertini, 68, who loses his life.

April 10, 2015 . Due to a landslide caused by bad weather, a pylon of the Himera viaduct on the A19 Palermo-Catania motorway collapses. There were no injuries.

25 December 2014 . The Scorciavacche viaduct on the Palermo-Agrigento state road yields. It was inaugurated on December 23rd. This accident did not involve vehicles and did not cause any harm to people.

July 7, 2014 . A section of the Petrulla viaduct collapses on the state road 626 between Ravanusa and Licata, in the province of Agrigento. Four people, including a pregnant woman, were slightly injured.

November 18, 2013 . In Sardinia there is a strong flood that causes the collapse of a bridge on the provincial road Oliena-Dorgali. A police officer dies and three of his colleagues are injured.

22 October 2013 . Due to a storm, in the night between the collapses the bridge in Carasco, in Liguria, on the Strula stream. The victims are two.


Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Hot Karl Marx posted:

Grand Tour Malaysia also comes out on Friday finally

Madagascar

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Jesus, Granholm doesn't even have a B.S.

She wasn't a bad governor IIRC, though she did have the bad luck to preside over the state right when the auto industry was in full meltdown during the recession. I was definitely surprised to see her name pop up though, I didn't even realize she was still in politics.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Basticle posted:

Madagascar

Sorry, yeah, wrong continent and everything

Lake of Methane
Oct 29, 2011

https://twitter.com/dranagel/status/1338691190087159810

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Grand Tour Malaysia also comes out on Friday finally

I finally started The Grand Tour from the beginning today. The first couple episodes were a bit weak, but it gets back to the normal Top Gear hijinx in the third episode.

Woofer
Mar 2, 2020

CBJSprague24 posted:

I finally started The Grand Tour from the beginning today. The first couple episodes were a bit weak, but it gets back to the normal Top Gear hijinx in the third episode.

Season 1 was by far the weakest. They didn’t seem like they knew what they wanted to do.

Season 2 on is where it gets great. The Detroit episode might be my favorite non-special.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/heatherscope/status/1339045246991282176?s=20

Good, where the gently caress is my money?

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
What's the issue with Granholm for Energy?

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Mayor Pete occupies the same role as Trump to me. He has no values beyond personal gain. He does nothing that does not further his career. He's a rat faced leech who is the exactly the type of toxic motherfucker who got us to where we are.
I really can't stand the gently caress, and he is the 2020 of possible roles in the incoming admin.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/nkulw/status/1339032242585296896?s=09

Might not be a great sign

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

bulletsponge13 posted:

Mayor Pete occupies the same role as Trump to me. He has no values beyond personal gain. He does nothing that does not further his career. He's a rat faced leech who is the exactly the type of toxic motherfucker who got us to where we are.
I really can't stand the gently caress, and he is the 2020 of possible roles in the incoming admin.

My imagination of the conversation,

Joe: so what do you think, pete, department of trans-

Pete cutting in: oh sure I could head a department on trans rights, or just lgbt rights, or gay ri-

Joe: portation. Transportation, pete.

Pete: Oh. Ohhhh.

Joe: Yeah.

Pete: sure, I'm in.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Lemniscate Blue posted:

What's the issue with Granholm for Energy?

She's not a scientist (doesn't even have a B.S.), and the DoE mainly deals in nuclear energy and weapons management and administration. It feels a lot like Rick Perry all over again. Everyone was *hoping* Ernest Moniz would be tapped again.

Especially in light of this: https://twitter.com/propublica/status/1339033560586579968

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

Lemniscate Blue posted:

What's the issue with Granholm for Energy?

It's putting ICP in charge of the magnets.

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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Coasterphreak posted:

It's putting ICP in charge of the magnets.

clowns can't make magnets work

NO ONE can make magnets work!

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