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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I should note that this is the same company that liquified 5 of their employees in 2017 because they made them clean out a slag tank while the boiler was still operating (cuz it would be expensive to shut it down) and it dumped a bunch of molten slag on top of them.

OSHA fined them and a subcontractor a whopping combined total of $160,972, that'll teach em.

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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

being ran by the salvation army too, better be cis and Christian if you want power this winter

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



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Shame Boy posted:

I should note that this is the same company that liquified 5 of their employees in 2017 because they made them clean out a slag tank while the boiler was still operating (cuz it would be expensive to shut it down) and it dumped a bunch of molten slag on top of them.

OSHA fined them and a subcontractor a whopping combined total of $160,972, that'll teach em.

Fuckin hardcore

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

Scott Ray, whose firm Premier Safety Partners develops safety management programs for businesses in the energy sector, said it comes down to each organization’s culture.
“Some employers will shut everything down in order to do a job safely,” Ray said. “Other companies may look at it from a different perspective. They may accept more risk.”

Sure dunking employees in molten lava is regrettable, but it also saves a lot of money, so its impossible to say if its bad or not.

e: Also this is the second time this specific thing happened at this specific power plant. If only there were a way for us to know for sure that working underneath the giant tank full of lava is dangerous, oh well I guess it's just an act of god.

e2: Here's the article I got that quote from if anyone's interested, it spends several paragraphs establishing with multiple experts that "yes, the giant lava tank that keeps killing people is in fact dangerous" just in case you weren't sure: https://projects.tampabay.com/projects/2017/investigations/tampa-electric/big-bend-hellfire-from-above/

Shame Boy has issued a correction as of 00:09 on Dec 17, 2020

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Oh nevermind, the people who got all Ark of the Covnenant'd were contractors so they don't have rights

quote:

But this time, contractors were doing much of the work, union business manager Doug Bowden said, both to save money and because the union raised safety concerns.

“They said, ‘Hey union, if you don’t want to do that work, we’ll hire it out,’ ” he said.

Thank god, I was worried for a second.

Also they promise to stop doing it until OSHA isn't looking anymore

quote:

But no worker will clean out a slag tank with the boiler running until the company and OSHA finish investigating. “We’re not going to do it until we understand what happened,” Gillette said.

Alucard
Mar 11, 2002
Pillbug

Other headline which is just as infuriating: "It's not just renters. Landlords are struggling, too"

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Alucard posted:


Other headline which is just as infuriating: "It's not just renters. Landlords are struggling, too"

Maybe they should consider a side hustle. Or, y'know, selling some of their stuff. Like, maybe their extra loving houses.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

because it isn't a real job :)

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Thanatosian posted:

Maybe they should consider a side hustle. Or, y'know, selling some of their stuff. Like, maybe their extra loving houses.

Maybe they could sell their second house and consider moving in to a less expensive second apartment

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Alucard posted:


Other headline which is just as infuriating: "It's not just renters. Landlords are struggling, too"

learn2code

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

Alucard posted:


Other headline which is just as infuriating: "It's not just renters. Landlords are struggling, too"

The full article is amazing.

quote:

Landlords are running out of money. 'We don't get unemployment'

Over the past 30 years, Maral Boyadjian has built up a family real estate business consisting of eight homes in Southern California that she and her husband rent out.
"Some people spend their money on a bigger home or better car or travel, but we live modestly," said Boyadjian. "Whatever money we can put together, we spend it on buying another single-family home to rent."


Typically, the rents from the homes enable the couple to cover all their expenses and earn income. But now tenants in three of their properties in the San Fernando Valley, haven't paid their rent for months. The couple can't remove those tenants because of a state eviction moratorium, which was extended until January 31.

Of the three tenants that are behind, one has arranged to pay 25% of rent now and the rest later. Boyadjian said she is happy to work with that tenant, because at least an effort is being made and she's getting something. Others, like those who have not paid any rent since August, leave her feeling like she's being taken advantage of.
"Owning a property and collecting rent on it is my way of making a living," she said. "There has been no government aid coming my way. Our income has been sliced. We don't get unemployment."

So far, she has been able to continue to meet her financial obligations. She makes property tax payments and pays the insurance. She not only pays for utilities like water, but also for gardeners and pool maintenance.

"We've been able to pay our mortgages, but we're really in danger of not being able to on two properties," Boyadjian said. "This is not sustainable."


Eviction moratoriums causing uncertainty

As the coronavirus pandemic drags on -- with unemployment still high, government support dwindling and the status of future stimulus unknown -- landlords are suffering.
An estimated 9.2 million renters who have lost income during the pandemic are behind on rent, according to an analysis of Census data by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. And renter households with a job loss will owe an estimated average of $5,400 in back rent by this month, according to a report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.

A national ban on evictions, put in place by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to stop the spread of the virus, has meant many landlords must continue to pay to maintain and finance their properties with less rent coming in and no recourse to remove non-paying tenants.
"This is becoming a concern for landlords," said David Howard, executive director for the National Rental Home Council, which advocates on behalf of the single-family rental industry. "With the eviction moratorium, you don't know what the next step is. There is no certainty about when you're going to get paid."
If the CDC order is allowed to expire, as many as 5 million renters could face eviction across the country in January, with as many as 14 million renter households at risk of eviction, according to Stout, a global investment bank and advisory firm. But advocates for property owners doubt there will be anywhere near that many people facing homelessness.

"The stories are heartbreaking for everyone -- people with medical problems or who have lost their jobs," said Howard. "But I don't see an eviction tsunami or an apocalypse coming. I think that message is coming from housing advocacy groups as a way to prevent any evictions."
Still, there is an incentive to support property owners and to keep tenants in safe housing, Howard said. But finding the solution is tricky. He advocates for rental assistance in the form of direct payments to landlords or payments to tenants earmarked for rent.
Single-family homes account for half of all rental housing, he said, and the majority of those property owners are mom-and-pop landlords, many of whom may be operating on razor-thin margins, relying on rental income to cover the costs of the property and using what's left as their income.
"The government is putting property owners in a situation where they are supposed to be the back-stop," Howard said. "And many will say, 'I can no longer afford to be in this business.' "

Unable to maintain property

Peter Gray, president of Pyramid Real Estate Group in Stamford, Connecticut, is not only a property owner collecting rent on 30 of his own properties, but also a property manager who handles maintenance and rent collection for other landlords. While only a couple of his own tenants have stopped paying, some of his landlord clients are having trouble paying him.
"Usually we're one of the last ones they stop paying," he said. "We're the ones collecting the rent. If they can't pay their subcontractors, they are hurting."

If landlords are struggling, tenants will also be affected as home maintenance slides.
"I'm seeing landlords who can't pay for trash removal," Gray said. "We're getting 'no heat' calls. They aren't paying real estate taxes. They aren't paying their mortgage."
He said one property his company manages had a plumbing problem that cost around $38,000. The owner did not pay the bill.
"We had to get an attorney involved and say we would no longer do maintenance or repairs for them," he said. "We paid $38,000 for repairs and they'd like to owe us one?"

For the typical landlord in trouble, which he said is someone who bought their property in the last five years and is leveraged to the hilt, there are no reserves. "Despite tenant protection laws, these landlords don't have the cash reserves, nor the equity in their building to get loans," he said. "With the moratoriums, they're taking hit after hit."
Some landlords, he said, are being paid less and seeing the wear and tear on their property increase as grown children or friends double up after losing their own housing. Routine maintenance that was supposed to take place this year has in some cases been delayed or canceled because landlords just don't have the money, said Gray.
"They can legislate the need to do timely repairs," he said. "But for many landlords, there is no money."

Gray said he has some non-paying tenants he is not able to evict because of the moratorium. But he's found most of his tenants are communicating with him and making their best efforts to pay.
"It isn't my style to take the last penny off the table," he said. "I want my tenants to do well. I thought early in my career it may have been bad business not to be more aggressive. But it turns out it is good business to work with people."


thoughts and prayers

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
The ability of a person who owns eight homes to say "we live modestly" with a straight loving face is loving incredible.

Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkN9H9aLow

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

Thanatosian posted:

Maybe they should consider a side hustle. Or, y'know, selling some of their stuff. Like, maybe their extra loving houses.



my landlord tried to sell me the condo I call home and wanted 40k more than a comparable condo (as in same size, same building) sold for 3 weeks prior to them contacting me

How!
Oct 29, 2009

Alucard posted:


Other headline which is just as infuriating: "It's not just renters. Landlords are struggling, too"

My landlord took video of my yard and is trying to charge me more because I’m using it as storage. Before a bunch of dipshits dogpile me for allegedly littering on a golf course again, I have two mopeds and my work kit (a rubber maid cart) back there. I wasn’t allowed to keep these items behind my truck in my parking spot, so I moved them to my yard.

I loving hate landlords so much.

Anyway Im in the process of buying a house with a rental property in the back so we’ll see how quickly I become a monster.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
why can't you use a yard for storage, isn't that like one of the main purposes for yard

How!
Oct 29, 2009

indigi posted:

why can't you use a yard for storage, isn't that like one of the main purposes for yard

Right?

This is the same guy who came up to my wife and I while we were kicking a soccer ball around for our dog, and told us there is no ball-play allowed on the property. So I think he’s just the worst.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

INSERT QUACK TO CONTINUE


Taco Defender

Elman posted:

The full article is amazing.

quote:

For the typical landlord in trouble, which he said is someone who bought their property in the last five years and is leveraged to the hilt, there are no reserves. "Despite tenant protection laws, these landlords don't have the cash reserves, nor the equity in their building to get loans," he said. "With the moratoriums, they're taking hit after hit."

thoughts and prayers

All they need to do is dip into their 6+ months of expenses that they've obviously saved up, like any responsible person would.

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

indigi posted:

why can't you use a yard for storage, isn't that like one of the main purposes for yard

its for property values and growing invasive plants

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
I just shoved over a line of those rental scooters and somebody did what sounded like a Tigger laugh from their car in response

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 216 days!

How! posted:

Right?

This is the same guy who came up to my wife and I while we were kicking a soccer ball around for our dog, and told us there is no ball-play allowed on the property. So I think he’s just the worst.

should have asked why he keeps coming up to you and playing with his then

Testicular Torque Wrench
Apr 14, 2016

yeet
mandatory reminder that Québec's electricity is 99% renewable and state-owned

also a reminder that if a landlord doesnt fix something hosed up in your apartment
you can charge an electrician or something to fix it and deduce that from the rent
without asking them or getting approval from anyone

oh yeah and last time they tried upping the price of tuition students rioted province-wide

stan Québec

Testicular Torque Wrench has issued a correction as of 02:52 on Dec 18, 2020

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

frenchaboos

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
ouiaboos

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13504116/mcdonalds-wall-food-just-eat/


quote:

"I said to McDonald's 'you're letting your customers and your staff down by allowing Just Eat to manage your delivery in such a sloppy, poor way'.

Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.
Pillbug

How! posted:

Right?

This is the same guy who came up to my wife and I while we were kicking a soccer ball around for our dog, and told us there is no ball-play allowed on the property. So I think he’s just the worst.

Pop him in the mouth next time.

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Abongination posted:

Pop him in the mouth next time.

Kick him in the nuts instead, that'll get rid of the balls

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



How! posted:

Right?

This is the same guy who came up to my wife and I while we were kicking a soccer ball around for our dog, and told us there is no ball-play allowed on the property. So I think he’s just the worst.
You might want to watch this video to get an idea of things to watch out for in future apartments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVodkE47aLw&t=5704s

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Hows!'s wife is a master at ball play

Complications
Jun 19, 2014


lol

I'll bet she snapped that at some random minimum wage cashier thinking that they gave a poo poo.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

How! posted:

Before a bunch of dipshits dogpile me for allegedly littering on a golf course again, I have two mopeds and my work kit (a rubber maid cart) back there.

I'd think you'd get a medal for trashing a golf course

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Complications posted:

lol

I'll bet she snapped that at some random minimum wage cashier thinking that they gave a poo poo.

She absolutely did

quote:

Helen, from Bexleyheath, London, said: "It's mad. It's supposed to be fast food.

"I noticed all the McDonald's bags stacked up and asked if it was for delivery.

"He said some drivers will not accept or cancel a delivery, so people's stuff gets made and left there.

"I asked him if it was the same [at other McDonald's] and he said 'yes, it's the same for all the restaurants here'.

"They said it was normal with Just Eat and we could be waiting another hour for the delivery to be assigned. That it's standard with them.

"[The McDonald's staff] were making loads more orders at the time, so it just seems ridiculous.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FAST FOOD!!!

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

"It's definitely put me off using Just Eat. From now, I'll go to an independent restaurant and order directly through them."

Helen spent £34 on two triple cheeseburgers, a quarter pounder with cheese meal, two Happy Meals for her children and a chicken nugget sharing box at the weekend.

I'll get my two triple cheeseburgers and family size chicken nuggets elsewhere, GOOD DAY.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Also credit where credit's due, good job on this headline in the sidebar The Sun:

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

Here's my favorite part.

quote:

Just Eat confirmed they were looking into the issue with their third-party courier company and had offered Helen an additional voucher as a good will gesture.

But Just Eat, you're the third party in this scenario! Just how many layers of sub-contracting does this McDonald's delivery service go through?! :psyduck:

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Doggles posted:

Here's my favorite part.


But Just Eat, you're the third party in this scenario! Just how many layers of sub-contracting does this McDonald's delivery service go through?! :psyduck:

That Chinese hitman subcontracting scheme that got like 8 people arrested, but for delivering a $5 burger.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I bet everyone's dad in the UK jokes that a quarter pounder should only cost 25 pence every single time they order one don't they

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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

everyone dies young due to toast sandwiches related injuries

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