Sony PlayStation 4: dumbasses in this thread: "Fireman Sam is a dentist"

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acksplode: May 17, 2004

Escobarbarian posted:

That�s loving insane and also seems pretty unnecessary

CDPR directed an army of aggrieved gamers at Sony support, promising a refund that Sony has a clear and established policy against providing. Taking their broken poo poo off the shelf seems fair to me

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:26

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 20:48

Rageaholic: May 31, 2005; Old Town Road to EGOT

I'm glad they're giving refunds. My dumb rear end pre-ordered it on PS4 a while ago but switched over to PC after the PS4 version didn't look great/perform well. I tried getting a refund through Sony's refund chatbot but they won't give you one if you've already downloaded the game, so I emailed that CD Projekt Red refund email address and got an automatic reply that they'd get back to people about PS4 refunds.

Really it's my fault for pre-ordering an open world RPG that's been in development for this long, but it's cool that I'll be able to get a refund.

And yeah, pulling the game is huge :eyepop:

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:27

Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

i think the time has come for drastic measures when viral news stories are coming out about slain npc's spontaneously turning into patio sets

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:28

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Well, at least they didn't turn into a dildo. That would've been a bit too on the nose.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:31

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Escobarbarian posted:

That�s loving insane and also seems pretty unnecessary

I think they got backed into a corner by CDPR assuring customers they could get refunds. Sony got a ton of bad press for refusing. So they went hard the other way.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:31

ZeeBoi: Jan 17, 2001

The refund page is being hammered hard, or rather, the webforms.playstation.com hosted form is.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:39

Wolfsheim: Dec 23, 2003; "Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Hoooly poo poo

The boss fight against your evil half in Celeste is extremely good

That C2077 news is also very shocking

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:40

Escobarbarian: Jun 18, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Rinkles posted:

I think they got backed into a corner by CDPR assuring customers they could get refunds. Sony got a ton of bad press for refusing. So they went hard the other way.

I guess this is the best way for them to keep their usual refund system intact lmao

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:42

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

One gently caress-you shift of the blame deserves another, I suppose. Can't say that CDPR didn't have it coming for leaving Sony to take the brunt of the complaints in their stead there.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:45

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Escobarbarian posted:

I guess this is the best way for them to keep their usual refund system intact lmao

I don�t know what Cyber expected to happen, but if they were competent we wouldn�t be here

# ? Dec 18, 2020 02:54

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

Holy crap, I can�t even think of another game this happened to. No Man�s Sky at its worst wasn�t pulled. Arkham Knight PC was voluntarily withdrawn. Sony must be PISSED over the refund fiasco

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:08

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Final Fantasy 14 was about this bad. The entire game was reworked from the ground up post-release just to be finally considered functional.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:09

veni veni veni: Jun 5, 2005

Oxxidation posted:

i think the time has come for drastic measures when viral news stories are coming out about slain npc's spontaneously turning into patio sets

But enough about Spider-Man Miles Morales.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:19

Twibbit: Mar 7, 2013; Is your refrigerator running?

Cardiovorax posted:

Final Fantasy 14 was about this bad. The entire game was reworked from the ground up post-release just to be finally considered functional.

That version never was launched on Sony systems despite them saying it would be. The reworked version is the one that made it to ps3

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:25

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Isn't the main issue that CP2077 on a PSPoor looked really bad? I do feel like this has more to do with the devs wanting refunds to be given.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:27

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

FlamingLiberal posted:

Isn't the main issue that CP2077 on a PSPoor looked really bad? I do feel like this has more to do with the devs wanting refunds to be given.

It looked really bad, it ran really bad, it was full of bugs, and it crashed a lot. But the reason it got pulled off the store was almost certainly the announcement the other day telling customers to go bother Sony support about refunds, which they clearly did not talk to Sony in advance about.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:28

BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

Cardiovorax posted:

Well, one way or the other, this makes the Cyberpunk launch a disaster on a level that I've seen maybe two or three times in the entire time I've been playing video games. That's the kind of thing that basically kills entire development studios.

Yeah, been playing games more than 25 years and I don't ever recall something this crazy. Them pulling it almost makes me want to play it more...except I know grabbing a disc copy just means downloading 60-80gigs on my lovely internet lol

Prolly better to wait in the end.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:31

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

From what I understand, the first patch for the PC version made a big difference, so I imagine that at least some of these issues will be fixed reasonably quick.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:34

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Twibbit posted:

That version never was launched on Sony systems despite them saying it would be. The reworked version is the one that made it to ps3

Yeah, I meant in general, not on a Sony console specifically.

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

Prolly better to wait in the end.

Definitely. CDPR will probably survive this, so we might as well wait for the inevitable enhanced edition. It has served me well with every other CDPR game so far.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:35

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

Them pulling it almost makes me want to play it more...except I know grabbing a disc copy just means downloading 60-80gigs on my lovely internet lol

if you're lucky. them pulling it might mean no more patches

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:35

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Rinkles posted:

if you're lucky. them pulling it might mean no more patches

which puts the recent discussion about what should be on a retail disc in a different perspective

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:36

univbee: Jun 3, 2004

Playing the base PS4 version feels like you're playing a pre-beta version of the game that's not meant for the public. Like, it's the version you'd have expected at the beginning of this year when they announced the delay from April 16th. Making it run like Just Cause 3 at launch on a base PS4 did would be a considerable improvement.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:36

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FlamingLiberal posted:

From what I understand, the first patch for the PC version made a big difference, so I imagine that at least some of these issues will be fixed reasonably quick.

Some of the issues they can fix don't necessarily include "being built for hardware more advanced than a baseline PS4" though, so that could go either way.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:37

homeless snail: Mar 14, 2007

Cardiovorax posted:

Final Fantasy 14 was about this bad. The entire game was reworked from the ground up post-release just to be finally considered functional.

At no point did they stop selling the Bad FF14 though, they were just very apologetic to anyone that gave them money back then (and continue to be 7 years later for all the perks those people still get)

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:37

Arist: Feb 13, 2012; _{who, me?}

Also FF14 was a disaster but mainly it was just a bad game with bad design decisions, this is... wow.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:38

univbee: Jun 3, 2004

Here's how the game runs and looks on base PS4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5pHpQqhmR4&t=160s

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:39

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

I'm playing CP2077 on my dumb expensive PC and it looks pretty good but... they should have been able to get it to run on a PS4. There's nothing so outlandishly good about the visuals or the content that should have prevented CDPR from getting it to run on base hardware.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:39

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

homeless snail posted:

At no point did they stop selling the Bad FF14 though, they were just very apologetic to anyone that gave them money back then (and continue to be 7 years later for all the perks those people still get)

It probably has a lot to do with CDPR pissing off Sony by directing all complaints to them, or we wouldn't be seeing this here either. Just personal conjecture, though.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:40

Arist: Feb 13, 2012; _{who, me?}

This makes some sense to me:

https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1339749980404285440

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:41

ZeeBoi: Jan 17, 2001

Refund request submitted. Thankfully all you need to do is be signed into the site and then click a button.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:44

BeanpolePeckerwood: May 4, 2004; I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK

Wolfsheim posted:

Hoooly poo poo

The boss fight against your evil half in Celeste is extremely good

Word. Goth girls go hard :black101:

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:44

veni veni veni: Jun 5, 2005

Arist posted:

This makes some sense to me:

https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1339749980404285440

Yeah this. It�s not Sony demanding a certain level of quality, they just don�t want to deal with giving out refunds and are probably extremely pissed at CDPR right now for making them look bad.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:51

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

exquisite tea posted:

I'm playing CP2077 on my dumb expensive PC and it looks pretty good but... they should have been able to get it to run on a PS4. There's nothing so outlandishly good about the visuals or the content that should have prevented CDPR from getting it to run on base hardware.

I think they ran out of time. I believe one of the reasons for the November to December delay was to give them more time to work on the console ports.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:53

ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

FlamingLiberal posted:

I think they ran out of time. I believe one of the reasons for the November to December delay was to give them more time to work on the console ports.

I mean they've already delayed a bunch. They should have delayed further and not had their big game launch be a complete disaster on almost every level.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:55

Heroic Yoshimitsu: Jan 15, 2008

Stupid question, but getting a refund means you �return� your digital purchase so you no longer have the game right?

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:56

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

Stupid question, but getting a refund means you �return� your digital purchase so you no longer have the game right?

It means that the game is no longer associated with your PSN account, yes. You can no longer legally play it.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:57

Shirkelton: Apr 6, 2009; I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

Stupid question, but getting a refund means you �return� your digital purchase so you no longer have the game right?

Yes.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:58

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Cardiovorax posted:

It means that the game is no longer associated with your PSN account, yes. You can no longer legally play it, even if you have the disc.

why'd you bring up the disc? i don't think sony can stop your disc from working, even if they ban your account.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:59

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Rinkles posted:

why'd you bring up the disc? i don't think sony can stop your disc from working, even if they ban your account.

Yeah, you caught me in the middle of that. I edited that out because I realized that it made no sense. I think you wouldn't get patches, though?

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 20:48

Rageaholic: May 31, 2005; Old Town Road to EGOT

I'm assuming the refund will be the $59.99 + tax into your PSN wallet, or at least it will be for me since that was what I used to pay for the game.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 04:02

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