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Booty Pageant posted:pla gamer divison; standard issue rgb, doritos and mt dew mre, millions of steam accounts bombing reviews and influencing the dota 2 marketplace i'd say probably 95% of my run-ins with the NCPD have been them: 1) getting in my loving way and being stupendous douchebags about me trying to just walk from one place to another, involving yelling at me and menacing me with their guns for little to no reason 2) getting slaughtered by gang members and expecting me to bail their scrawny asses out with barely a thank you so i can't say they come off super well in the game. that said, when you scan enemies and see how much street cred and money they're worth to take down, it's always the NCPD's wanted posters that are the basis for these rewards, so it does seem like the cops are the primary reputation source in night city. i'm not gonna go so far as to say that cyberpunk absolutely must have all cops as blackhearted Keystone Kops in jackboots the way a more hardcore punk aesthetic would demand (even Neuromancer had a couple of police organizations that actually did their jobs), but implying the underworld actively takes its cues from the police department is definitely a pretty sketch step. from my interactions with the chinese censors, though, i doubt this level of nuance even parses to them. their incentive structure is much like the old network tv censors' in that they are largely judged by how much poo poo they stop, and that acts as a buffer for anything else that gets through. Cyberpunk has you literally blowing off half of an enemy's face if you kill them with a sufficiently powerful headshot, like from a sniper rifle. it's a pretty high level of violence, and definitely chilling if you're not ready for it. this is above and beyond characters screaming in japanese that you're a psycho if you kill their friends, screams that sometimes bug out and continue after the screamer has been killed or incapped. so like, just right there you have: - lethal violence - gruesome dismemberment - the japanese language existing and all of those are definitely lower hanging fruit to the censors in china than the nuance of how the police are portrayed. it's like the old story with the censors vs Animaniacs and Reboot. with Animaniacs they threw so much blatantly off color poo poo at the censors that eventually the censors just stopped writing for the day and the creators managed to get some ridiculously dirty jokes through on a kid's show on network television just because the censors were so tired of calling it all out. with Reboot they tried to play nice from the get go and the censors just went through finding poo poo to complain about, which is how you got the iconic monoboob on the female lead despite the fact that her design was already pretty conservative. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Dec 17, 2020 |
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At a certain level though Cyberpunk must have a political appeal to the CCP in that it says - look how hosed up the West will get without the guiding wisdom of Xi Jinping Thought! Arasaka is a Japanese company! Degeneracy and squalour!
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yeah to be clear i am aware that 2077 is going completely gangbusters in china but i am not familiar with what version of it they got over there. i presume that they censored poo poo like having a bloody stump of some dude's head hanging out but some of the more subtle stuff got through just because the game is so incredibly inappropriate by the strict interpretation of the law.
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I don't know poo poo about the cyberpunk video game, nor how or if it will indeed be censored on Chinese release. But will instead use the opportunity to whinge about Chinese/CCP censorship. It is always so arbitrary, petty, and harsh. They will lose their poo poo and ban an entire film for one tiny Taiwanese flag in the corner of screen for one frame, but will allow other poo poo, (like ghosts or gore), that is explicitly against their own rules. Largely because they don't actually give a poo poo. I don't remember any specific examples off the top of my head, but the fact that the rules are so haphazardly, and clumsily applied shits me more than the fact that they are being used in service of an oppressive political regime.
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might even say its done chabuduo
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bob dobbs is dead posted:might even say its done chabuduo Hooooooo 5000 years of cybermancy
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Didn't they change bone piles to turnips or something in a game to pass CCP censorship?
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Blistex posted:Didn't they change bone piles to turnips or something in a game to pass CCP censorship? I didn't realize SMB2 US was based on the Chinese version. the original sounds hardcore tbh
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Jigsaw posted:I didn't realize SMB2 US was based on the Chinese version. the original sounds hardcore tbh in the original you were just choking wart to death
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Weka posted:Social realism is an art style originating in the west and predating communist rule in Russia. Using colors to represent groups originated long before people started making 'thin blue line art' to celebrate and support the police and their violence against people in America. But that isn't any consolation to anyone any more than 'the history of social realism' is a consolation to people who don't like art that supports and celebrates the violence of vicious communist police states against people, especially if they have firsthand experience with it. hakimashou fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Dec 18, 2020 |
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Speaking of social(ist) realism art. They made some pretty badarse safety signs.    I personally love the last one. Not just because I like that art style, but also for the straightforward and relatable advice it gives. "Don't walk on fish."
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BrigadierSensible posted:Speaking of social(ist) realism art. They made some pretty badarse safety signs. Trotsky's death was no accident Stalin. We all know what you did.
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Strategic Tea posted:At a certain level though Cyberpunk must have a political appeal to the CCP in that it says - look how hosed up the West will get without the guiding wisdom of Xi Jinping Thought! Arasaka is a Japanese company! Degeneracy and squalour! This is ironic because despite the setting the game's social commentary is probably more applicable to China than anywhere else on the planet I am curious as to how the game's horniness got past the censors though, or what they put in its place
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Strategic Tea posted:At a certain level though Cyberpunk must have a political appeal to the CCP in that it says - look how hosed up the West will get without the guiding wisdom of Xi Jinping Thought! Arasaka is a Japanese company! Degeneracy and squalour! Chinese Megacorps are in the game as secondary antagonists and there's a news story about how China has become the first country to completely eradicate self-driven cars, replacing them with automatic ones that only drive to along government approved routes, and all bicycles have GPS trackers installed on them
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My wife is telling her parents that they are not to pay for a Covid vaccine or get one outside of a hospital. I guess there are already scammers who are selling their version of "fastpass" for the shot.
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Cyberpunk 2077 got pulled from the Playstation Shop. It's refunds, not politics. Still  https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news...masutra+News%29 quote:The drama over Cyberpunk 2077 has taken an unprecedented new turn. Sony has announced that it is removing Cyberpunk 2077 from the PlayStation Store, and will offer refunds for players who've purchased the game.
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Fojar38 posted:This is ironic because despite the setting the game's social commentary is probably more applicable to China than anywhere else on the planet On a similar note, (though not horniness related), I saw the 2nd Hunger Games film in when I was in China at the cinemas. And I was surprised that the CCP allowed in a film which as it's central message has "The government is bad, it is lying to you, and you should rise up and violently overthrow it. Look at all these rich people living in luxury whilst the poor people starve and die."
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Those were pre-Xi. Series ran from 2012 to 2015. Catching fire 2013. They were significantly more relaxed back then.
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Who was the guy running things before Xi?
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Blistex posted:Who was the guy running things before Xi? Hu was the guy in charge.
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you're a good sport
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Someone told me a lady is running the place now.
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Before you could still protest and Beijing would back off. They were generally sticking with OCTS and hope that we could make it to 2047. The Mainland while not great was improving hence "Engagement" was seen as working. Diplomatic releases were still BS with hurt Chinese feelings but rarely threaten. I can't point exactly when, the first signs of out of control nationalism and its exploitation by the CCP is when it ended. Maybe it was after one of the endless jousting over the islands with Japan which lead to rioting and destruction of Japanese or perceived products/businesses or earlier. After that there were, many, many obvious points it was heading south and wasn't coming back.
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My guess it's just the slow realisation that rabid nationalism and outrage is the most efficient way to control a modern society, and that anyone who doesn't adopt it will be out-competed by someone who does 
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Strategic Tea posted:My guess it's just the slow realisation that rabid nationalism and outrage is the most efficient way to control a modern society, and that anyone who doesn't adopt it will be out-competed by someone who does I'm hoping this applies only to first-past-post voting systems (US, UK, India) or already authoritarian states (Russia, China). In EU the racist parties usually get 15-35% of the vote with just a few exceptions like Portugal (0%) and Hungary, and are either kept out of the government or have just limited power.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I can think of another game CDPR should pull from the stores. congratulations
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Vesi posted:I'm hoping this applies only to first-past-post voting systems (US, UK, India) or already authoritarian states (Russia, China). unless i'm super mistaken poland does not have either of these styles and their right-wing "LAW AND ORDER" party is increasingly powerful over the last most of a decade. the law and order party is precisely as corrupt as youd expect them to be btw
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In more important China news: https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1339875467302735872
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I’d eat it
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I'm lovin' it.
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:I’d eat it Well, obviously.
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Dec 18, 2020 18:36
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Yeah but is that frosting or mayonnaise
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Hokkaido Anxiety posted:Yeah but is that frosting or mayonnaise Yup
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I hope it's both. But it's East Asia so it's probably mayo.
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It's the unholy combination of mayonnaise and frosting known as Miracle Whip.
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McGavin posted:It's the unholy combination of mayonnaise and frosting known as Miracle Whip. I have never heard this terrible substance described so accurately
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That is just so wrong. Eating an empty sandwich is clearly the sane choice.
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Jackie Chan's house in Shanghai got seized by the CCP cos he is mates with the Frog 🐸 instead of Winnie 🐻
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A) What's the frog mean in this context B) lmao
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