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Veskit posted:Ok this is my final build. Are there any callouts? The only thing I can think of is that I left out a fan because the 5600 already comes with one. Any particular reason for the X570 board? A B550 will be over $50 cheaper for the same features for most of us. Get a WD SN550 NVME drive instead of the Samsung drive. It's much faster for similar price.
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Honestly it's purely brand recognition with ASUS. It also didn't list having bluetooth but the reviews say it does Are we talking this one? https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Dig...08316665&sr=8-2 Veskit fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Dec 18, 2020 |
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Veskit posted:Honestly it's purely brand recognition with ASUS. It also didn't list having bluetooth but the reviews say it does I prefer this one https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B550M-PRO-VDH-ProSeries-Motherboard/dp/B089D1YG11/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=pro+vdh+wifi&qid=1608317408&sr=8-3
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Mu Zeta posted:I prefer this one That helps a lot, thank you for saving me the extra cash!
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Booyah- posted:Can you post the source? I don't have a news article or anything but seen a lot of people complaining about this in various stock alerting discords.
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Hmmm the price of the 3600's at my local microcenter just dropped back down to $220 after being raised up to $250 like two weeks ago... I thought I had settled on the rest of my build but I guess things are changing again
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Wowporn posted:Hmmm the price of the 3600's at my local microcenter just dropped back down to $220 after being raised up to $250 like two weeks ago... I thought I had settled on the rest of my build but I guess things are changing again There’s been lots of reports of people walking into micro center and getting 5600x/5800x. It’s probably in response to higher availability to those chips.
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Walmart just did a massive drop of 5950x's. I got one, ships on Jan 2nd. It looks like they got several hundred and are just delaying shipments by a few weeks. Still might be a chance to get one if you are looking.
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Booyah- posted:Can you post the source? [META] Amazon canceling EVGA FTW3 ULTRA GAMING orders from 12/16 - $0 https://reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/kfcxhy/meta_amazon_canceling_evga_ftw3_ultra_gaming/
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All other things being equal which CPU would you choose at these price points: Ryzen 7 2700X - $290CAD Ryzen 5 3600 - $320CAD Ryzen 5 3600X - $330CAD Ryzen 5 3700X - $399CAD Based on research I've done, in particular watching Gamers Nexus videos, seems like a tossup between the 3600 and 3600X but maybe I'm missing something. I think when they did reviews the price gap between the 3600 models and the 3700X was significantly greater but could be mistaken. Levin fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Assuming it's gaming the 3600 will handle it fine for years. I wouldn't pay a cent more for the 3600x.
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Corte posted:All other things being equal which CPU would you choose at these price points: If you aren't in a hurry this site is taking queue orders I think https://www.pc-canada.com/item/100-100000065BOX.html 3600 at $250 US or 5600x for 320 US... The 5600x is much closer to its real value.
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Updated the build I want for myself. Probably going to end up gaming on this most of the time but I will also code on this occasionally and that will require some VMs/containers running. Thoughts? (Buying in Canada and at Canada Computers) Everything seems like it'll fit, can you folks spot any potential issues? I'm going to have to line up at the store tomorrow morning (if all is good) and try not to get plague to back-order this... PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler Motherboard: *MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Canada Computers) Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($359.00 @ Canada Computers) Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($429.99 @ Canada Computers) Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($169.99 @ Canada Computers) Power Supply: *Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($154.99 @ Canada Computers) Wireless Network Adapter: *MSI AX905C PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wi-Fi Adapter ($54.99 @ Canada Computers) Total: $1368.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-18 20:57 EST-0500 The GPU looks like its going to be $1109. drat everything is way more expensive now.
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That is a very expensive SSD. I guess if you don't mind paying a premium, but as a Samsung drive my guess is that you're paying a premium there. I couldn't tell you what the difference truly is between a 970 Plus vs a Sabrent Rocket or an Intel 660p but those are fine drives that are 20-30% cheaper.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKNQ3RZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 You could get two of these 2TB SSDs for that samsung one, I have one and it's been solid 3080 is possible you'll just have to be both patient and persistent.
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FreeKillB posted:That is a very expensive SSD. I guess if you don't mind paying a premium, but as a Samsung drive my guess is that you're paying a premium there. I couldn't tell you what the difference truly is between a 970 Plus vs a Sabrent Rocket or an Intel 660p but those are fine drives that are 20-30% cheaper. infraboy posted:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKNQ3RZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Thanks for the advice. I'm trying to weigh if I really do need 2TB. Can you safely mix and match drive brands? I'm thinking I could get the 1TB Evo Plus for my main and a WD Blue SN550 1TB in the second slot? Is that a bad idea?
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You can mix and match, but my personal reasoning against that is wanting to keep the second M.2 slot open for PCIe 4 storage when it comes down in price a bit and the speed is actually utilised.
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2TB is nice especially if you were going to spring for a $430 drive and can instead get a $300 drive or even less https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0829DZH2W?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 Since we're kind of on a limited slots/form factor thing again (not that you couldn't just add SATA drives...) I'd get the biggest drive you can. Also installing M.2 drives isn't as no thought as SATA since they screw into the board. 2TB wasnt seen as anything insane or crazy on a new spinning drive system, we just all changed our habits. I like having space again on my desktop, I can work on some dumb 200GB project and just delete it when I realize I was high & it's not a fun idea
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Ok both times I've gone to turn my PC on in the morning the last two days, it's powered on but not displayed anything, and the GPU light didn't come on even though the fans were spinning. It refuses to turn off with holding down the power button, I have to pull the plug, then when I turn it back on it works fine, and has turned on and off normally through the day. Given my other weird motherboard issues (BIOS flash not working, CMOS jumper not working) is it likely my board is just slightly hosed? If so I'm thinking I'll just order a new one and return this when it arrives. I can't be doing with the stress of wondering if it'll turn on properly every morning.
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I'd strip the board down a bit (and definitely test with literally any other GPU if that option is available) but in my LIMITED experience FANS ON + DIAG LIGHT + NO POST + DOESNT RESPOND TO HOLDING POWER DOWN = dead board. Like "doesnt respond to holding power down" is a really bad sign as far as I know, it's an incredibly low level function. I suspect a hairline fracture or physical defect in the CPU socket on mine and replaced it to never ever have another problem again. Coincidentally, I had been having "it shuts down instead of reboots, oh well" issues.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Ok both times I've gone to turn my PC on in the morning the last two days, it's powered on but not displayed anything, and the GPU light didn't come on even though the fans were spinning. It refuses to turn off with holding down the power button, I have to pull the plug, then when I turn it back on it works fine, and has turned on and off normally through the day. Yeah at this point I’d be RMAing that board. Boz0r posted:Would you guys trust fancier looking PSU and SATA cables from AliExpress? Absolutely not. Never put anything from Ali express in anything you care about.
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Hey all, I had a couple quick GPU questions. I'm currently running a GTX 1060 6GB GPU with a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU on a 1080p 60fps monitor. It runs Cyberpunk pretty good, most settings on high with a stable 40ish fps. 1) Could I get better performance in Cyberpunk by only changing my GPU? If so, what's the best GPU for me, considering that I'm not willing to change my CPU. A GTX 1660 super? AMD RX 5600 XT? They both seem to be well recommended 1080p GPUs but I don't know if my CPU means I won't be buying "too much" video card with either of those choices. 2) Same question but assuming I bought a better monitor. What GPU might I need then? Is it even feasible with my CPU? I assume I can't just go straight to a new RTX 3080 super and not have the CPU become a bottle neck. But is there a card I could pair with my current CPU and get up to, say, 1440p 120 fps? Thanks in advance for the advice, I built my current PC specifically to play Cyberpunk on my current monitor, and it's doing the job well enough, but I'd like to get a bit better graphics and performance if that's a reasonable expectation with my current CPU.
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.00 @ Canada Computers) Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4 GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (Purchased For $0.00) Power Supply: EVGA G2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (Purchased For $0.00) External Storage: Seagate Expansion 8 TB External Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) External Storage: Seagate Backup Plus Hub 8 TB External Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00) Was considering getting an SSD thinking I'd only take up one more SATA slot, plugged it into part picker and get this error: Warning!1 additional SATA 6 Gb/s compatible port is needed. Interestingly if I add another M.2 NVME it seems to be fine. My understanding is motherboard provides 2 M.2 slots and 4 SATA slots. I figured this setup would take up 1 M.2 slot and 3 SATA slots, what am I missing?
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What's a decent CPU aftermarket cooler to pair with a Ryzen 5x00? I've been looking at a the Noctua NH-D15, and it seems to be a perfect fit (quiet, efficient) but it's pretty pricey in my country. Are there any decent cheaper alternatives or should I just bite the bullet and get the Noctua?
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So I snagged a 3090 on a drop and was planning to return it if I got a 3080, but so far no luck. If I decide to just keep the 3090 and build around that, what Ryzen chip would be a good choice? I've seen some sources recommend the Ryzen 7 3700x but wanted to check here for more objective advice.
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Professor Spatula posted:So I snagged a 3090 on a drop and was planning to return it if I got a 3080, but so far no luck. If I decide to just keep the 3090 and build around that, what Ryzen chip would be a good choice? I've seen some sources recommend the Ryzen 7 3700x but wanted to check here for more objective advice. If you’re crazy enough to spend $1500 on a 3090 I would probably cheap out on the CPU sand bottleneck yourself. A 3700x will worn but I’d probably be looking for a 5800x+ if I had a 3090.
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Missionary Positron posted:What's a decent CPU aftermarket cooler to pair with a Ryzen 5x00? I've been looking at a the Noctua NH-D15, and it seems to be a perfect fit (quiet, efficient) but it's pretty pricey in my country. I hear good things about Thermalright Macho rev.b.
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Missionary Positron posted:What's a decent CPU aftermarket cooler to pair with a Ryzen 5x00? I've been looking at a the Noctua NH-D15, and it seems to be a perfect fit (quiet, efficient) but it's pretty pricey in my country. The DH15 is an incredible cooler, but yes it is expensive and can be hard to find. With this cooler, I’ve never seen my 5800x go above 60-65 C under load I’ve seen the cooler master 212 mentioned here multiple times as a cheaper alternative
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Missionary Positron posted:Are there any decent cheaper alternatives or should I just bite the bullet and get the Noctua? Going for something cheaper the Arctic Freezer 34 would be a solid choice.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Hey all, I had a couple quick GPU questions. Your 3600 should be plenty for awhile and I get rock solid 60fps in everything at 1440p with a 5700XT/Ryzen 3600, if that helps. 4K is very GPU-intensive and my 5700xt can manage say, modded Witcher 3 or Metro Exodus at around 40FPS in 4K (I stick to 1440p).
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Jack B Nimble posted:1) Could I get better performance in Cyberpunk by only changing my GPU? As the other poster said as you increase resolution GPU becomes the bottleneck rather than CPU and the 3600 is a great processor and will continue to be for years, so pair it with whatever you can afford. If you're happy at 1080p then I'd go with a 3060ti but if you're moving up to 1440p 144hz then stretching to a 3080 would make sense. Incidentally I'm not sure any card gets 120fps on cyberpunk 1440p at the highest settings, it's an extremely hungry game. Missionary Positron posted:What's a decent CPU aftermarket cooler to pair with a Ryzen 5x00? I've been looking at a the Noctua NH-D15, and it seems to be a perfect fit (quiet, efficient) but it's pretty pricey in my country. Scythe Fuma 2 is half the price and most of the performance.
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I don’t imagine cyberpunk runs smoothly on the highest settings on any reasonable machine, like not worth more than a new car. My brand new build looks like it’d run smoothly at 1440 around medium settings at best.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Hey all, I had a couple quick GPU questions. The problem with GPU recommendations at this point is that the RTX 30xx series simply destroys everything else on a value basis. A 1660 super would be some sort of increase over your 1060, but apparently its at about $300 because of supply crunch, and for $400, you can (hypothetically) buy the 3060 Ti, which will absolutely obliterate it, while giving you more headroom and unf for tomorrow's games and features. I think the basic breakdown is - the 3060 Ti will be plenty for 1080 gaming with maxed out everything, and it'll get the job done at 1440 too. The 3070 is a more solid 1440 card, and the 3080 will get you there for 4K gaming. Anyway, this is all a problem because the 30xx cards are hard to get ahold of; scroll through this thread or the GPU thread for plenty of discussion about that. The bottom line is that if you move your bottleneck onto the CPU, you'll still see improvements in FPS, and an up to date GPU will give you a more feasible upgrade path later. That is, you should buy today's GPU today, then buy tomorrow's CPU tomorrow. If you buy yesterday's GPU now, you'll be in a worse position next time you want to upgrade. EDIT: I don't think this is more helpful than what everyone else posted, but I'll leave it, haha.
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No no, that sort of meta commentary is very helpful because I basically ignore hardware until I need to build or upgrade my PC, so I'm always clueless. I build PCs the way my dad worked on cars; I do it because it saves me money, don't think about it otherwise, and grumble the whole way. Anyway, sounds like the name of the game for me is to wait for a 30xx series card, which I can afford to because my current set up is ok for playing the game. Thanks all!
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Ohhh last questions sorry. Is stock cooling good enough for a 5600x and do I even need to bother overclocking it?
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Veskit posted:Ohhh last questions sorry. Is stock cooling good enough for a 5600x and do I even need to bother overclocking it?
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