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insta posted:What is that, like 1 watt per MHz? nah, I stuck a FX5200 in a little 1ghz P3 Optiplex recently, and it actually only took that system's total power draw from 45 watts to about 70. handles stuff like Quake3 or Powerslide or Freelancer pretty decently. honestly not too bad a gpu if a pci slot's ALL you got.
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My PC had a 5600, that was the generation where nvidia didn't bother implementing DX9.0c or whatever so I couldn't get all the shaders in games.
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Cojawfee posted:My PC had a 5600, that was the generation where nvidia didn't bother implementing DX9.0c or whatever so I couldn't get all the shaders in games. 
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Sam Hall posted:nah, I stuck a FX5200 in a little 1ghz P3 Optiplex recently, and it actually only took that system's total power draw from 45 watts to about 70. handles stuff like Quake3 or Powerslide or Freelancer pretty decently. honestly not too bad a gpu if a pci slot's ALL you got. I meant the CPUs, not the PCI potato 
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I had a lovely little windows xp laptop that could just about run half life 2, but with really bad environmental pop in. It made me a god in prop hunt, because while everybody else on the hunter team would see crowded piles of junk I would just see completely empty rooms with a single beer bottle hiding in the far corner
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I had an FX5200 back in the day. Most disappointed I'd ever been with an upgrade.
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The PII 266 Win98SE system I have has a FX5600 in it. Total overkill
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insta posted:What is that, like 1 watt per MHz? I'm honestly not sure - it's got pretty late-model socket PIIIs and a pretty normal PSU. It's been sitting in my garage for like a year or so, and I haven't actually fired it up in a lot longer than that. It is a great case - tall, and it has feet on the bottom that rotate out to give it a more stable footprint, like outriggers. And it's all very beige.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I'm honestly not sure - it's got pretty late-model socket PIIIs and a pretty normal PSU. It's been sitting in my garage for like a year or so, and I haven't actually fired it up in a lot longer than that. wtf, you need to post pictures of that. My dual PIII had little feet on the case too... you didn't pick it up in Rochester, NY, did you?
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Pham Nuwen posted:wtf, you need to post pictures of that. My dual PIII had little feet on the case too... you didn't pick it up in Rochester, NY, did you? Nah, I'm on the opposite coast. I'll drag it out and get some pics when I'm able to - with the car in the garage it's kind of hard to get to.
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Bring back the riva 128!
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Pham Nuwen posted:wtf, you need to post pictures of that. My dual PIII had little feet on the case too... you didn't pick it up in Rochester, NY, did you? I think my P3 or possibly older AMD, around the 2005 range had those too much like this: 
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I remember that up until about a decade ago, all my desktops had the power supply at the top of the case. Wonder if the resulting top-heaviness led to those feet?
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Pham Nuwen posted:I remember that up until about a decade ago, all my desktops had the power supply at the top of the case. Wonder if the resulting top-heaviness led to those feet? Those cases were really tall, and yeah, they were top heavy, also because HDs were so expensive I had I think 6 HDs in that thing for a total of like 1.5 TB
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Pham Nuwen posted:I remember that up until about a decade ago, all my desktops had the power supply at the top of the case. Wonder if the resulting top-heaviness led to those feet? That reminds me that ATX was designed with horizontal cases in mind and has led to some weirdness as components have gotten bigger and heavier over the years. The power supply was next to the CPU because its fan used to double as the CPU exhaust. When cases got flipped vertical, the heaviest component wound up at the top and that standard only got changed because sucking air from increasingly hotter CPUs into the power supply became an issue. You also have issues where heavy CPU/video card heatsinks put strain on the motherboard that simply wouldn't occur in a horizontal layout.
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I just got an RTX 3060 Ti. Been with my old RX480 for 5 years. Holy poo poo windows lost its mind with drivers changing from AMD to Nvidia. Didn't help that my SAS adaptor hijacks booking to initialise my 12 HDDs in the rack. And Tautulli caused some corruption on my boot SSD
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Humphreys posted:I just got an RTX 3060 Ti. Been with my old RX480 for 5 years. Holy poo poo windows lost its mind with drivers changing from AMD to Nvidia. Didn't help that my SAS adaptor hijacks booking to initialise my 12 HDDs in the rack. And Tautulli caused some corruption on my boot SSD you lucky duck. how did you acquire one and what kind of markup? I hear the 3060ti is like the actual best card to get from the new ones, it's leaps ahead of the 1080, but half the cost if you can get it for retail price.
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LifeSunDeath posted:I think of people who restore old computers and I just cannot imagine tolerating the horrendous load times in this day and age, goddamn. Like two years ago when I broke out my C64 to play around with again, I decided I wanted to play Wheel of Fortune off the real floppy disk/drive (obviously not a retail disk of it, since I am firmly convinced only 2-3% of the C64 disks in existence are actual retail floppies, the rest are everyone's cool uncle's bootlegs). 20-25 minute load time while that poor drive sang me the song of its people lmao
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The C64 isn't really the best example, because C64 cassettes and disks were both slow as poo poo even by the standards of the time. Commodore cassettes loaded at 300 bits per second when every other platform was in the 1200-2500bps range, and C64 disks were about 1/10th the speed they should have been. Sweevo has a new favorite as of 21:03 on Dec 18, 2020 |
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If I play C=64 games now in the future, it's off memory cartridges.
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Code Jockey posted:Like two years ago when I broke out my C64 to play around with again, I decided I wanted to play Wheel of Fortune off the real floppy disk/drive (obviously not a retail disk of it, since I am firmly convinced only 2-3% of the C64 disks in existence are actual retail floppies, the rest are everyone's cool uncle's bootlegs). LOL. In the 90's I had some really old PC hand me downs and they were already so aged they ran poorly. My stupid copy of manic mansion would take forever to load, would have save errors all the time, would crash all the time, but that didn't stop me from loading that thing up hundreds of times trying to push through the game...never finished it though. I do miss the floppy drive buzzing sound, and sometimes the dot matrix printer sound.
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LifeSunDeath posted:LOL. In the 90's I had some really old PC hand me downs and they were already so aged they ran poorly. My stupid copy of manic mansion would take forever to load, would have save errors all the time, would crash all the time, but that didn't stop me from loading that thing up hundreds of times trying to push through the game...never finished it though. Yeah that was me when I started with PCs in like 1990  I had a copy of MS Flight Sim on a 5-1/4 floppy that was damaged somehow. I'd have to re-try to read that disk for 20-30 minutes sometimes just to play that dumb game.
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LifeSunDeath posted:you lucky duck. how did you acquire one and what kind of markup? I hear the 3060ti is like the actual best card to get from the new ones, it's leaps ahead of the 1080, but half the cost if you can get it for retail price. $750AUD with express freight. One of the better prices I saw for legit new product and not one of those wankers reselling on FB Marketplace. Some Goon posted:You should run DDU when changing gpu vendors. And yes I should have done that... But I was excited and wanted it in so I could finish dealing with some police poo poo and get evidence. EDIT: The best bit of the deal was I scored a 27in 144Hz Acer gaming monitor for $100 (well two of them for $200). EDIT: Worst bit of the score was me forgetting my motherboard only has PCI-E 3. I thought it was good to go but I have had it since Ryzen 5 1600X was good. Updated the Bios over the years for new CPUs.... Oh well another $190... Humphreys has a new favorite as of 10:28 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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LifeSunDeath posted:you lucky duck. how did you acquire one and what kind of markup? I hear the 3060ti is like the actual best card to get from the new ones, it's leaps ahead of the 1080, but half the cost if you can get it for retail price. What *is* retail price? I'm looking to do a new build in the next two months and video card prices have gone berserk and nothing I look at makes sense, even last gen cards are going for $400+
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:What *is* retail price? I'm looking to do a new build in the next two months and video card prices have gone berserk and nothing I look at makes sense, even last gen cards are going for $400+ $400 for a base model. Hopefully things normalize in the next couple months as supply increases, but for now I ain't holding my breath.
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Hmm that's a very good point but have you considered My mouse is a hamburger. Your argument is invalid.
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Some Goon posted:$400 for a base model. Hopefully things normalize in the next couple months as supply increases, but for now I ain't holding my breath. No poo poo. Everything I saw said a GTX 1660S or RX 580 was probably my best value since I only game at 1080p and don't give a poo poo about ray tracing currently but even those are limited stock and overpriced to hell. Guess my old GTX 960 is gonna live even longer.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:No poo poo. Everything I saw said a GTX 1660S or RX 580 was probably my best value since I only game at 1080p and don't give a poo poo about ray tracing currently but even those are limited stock and overpriced to hell. Guess my old GTX 960 is gonna live even longer. Yeah, those would be, but like you said prices are right hosed. Both AMD and Nvidia are launching their new GPUs from the top down so possibly by the time cards are available there will be something new in the $200-300 range.
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I somehow got my GTX1080 after one bubble of cryptostupid and it was retail price. Now it's available for cheaper but it's the same price as what the 3060ti is supposed to be, which is a straight upgrade across the board in performance, but totally impossible to get for that price. I think cryptomining is a worse crime than tailgating.
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I haven't paid for a GPU since 2015  I bought a Titan Z for my graduate research. That broke after about a year and was replaced under warranty*. It broke again, at which point EVGA sent me a 1080 Ti, which I'm still using *I don't think EVGA sold very many Titan-Z cards. The unit they sent me as warranty replacement was DOA. The replacement to that one was the next consecutive serial number from the DOA card.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:What *is* retail price? I'm looking to do a new build in the next two months and video card prices have gone berserk and nothing I look at makes sense, even last gen cards are going for $400+ 
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TotalLossBrain posted:I haven't paid for a GPU since 2015 Wonder if they fixed the 3080 thermal paste problems yet, I would be mega pissed if I got that at double the cost and couldn't return it.
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At this point, I think my 1060 was cheaper back when I bought it than it is today. It will do for a bit longer. I know Linus (of LTT youtube fame) is slightly divisive, but I have to agree with his conclusion when he tried to put together a list of recommended gaming PC builds at different prices right now: Don't bother, unless you already have a graphics card you can use. The actually cheap cards are trash, the high end are almost impossible to get, and the reasonably usable low end cards are way overpriced and their resale value will drop by a lot when we finally get a stable supply of the mid tier new cards.
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A friend of mine was determined to put together a gaming computer with his son for Christmas this year, and he ... he bought a GTX 3090 because he could not get anything cheaper that was still good. His son is 13, so like, old enough to appreciate a good computer on some level, but if he does not think that is the coolest gift ever for years I will be personally offended.
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I built a new computer earlier this year thanks to the stimulus check, and even in Spring there were serious supply issues. I was able to get the base components okay - mobo, CPU, RAM, PSU, case, and fans. Then I decided to upgrade my monitor and that was difficult but I got a good one. Then I realized I needed a better video card, so I spent May trying to find one that would be a reasonable step up from a 1060 6GB, and it turned out to be incredibly painful. I eventually landed a 2070 Super I'm quite happy with, but it took ages. I did a search the other day and I see the exact same card listed for $200 over what I paid for it because the market has gotten even worse. Between demand from work-from-home and supply issues now is not a great time to be shopping for a lot of computer parts.
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Dr. Quarex posted:A friend of mine was determined to put together a gaming computer with his son for Christmas this year, and he ... he bought a GTX 3090 because he could not get anything cheaper that was still good. gonna laugh when he only plays minecraft on it.
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He better turn on and appreciate the ray tracing.
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