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Vigil for Virgil posted:Well, that and "Well the government arent abiding by the rules so why should we?" yeah. that's a pretty big thing people have to cling on to. sets a terrible standard for what's a reasonable exception to judge yourself against. I think even if they'd fired him, the damage was still done. criminal sanctions were required to send the message that he was out of line. people outside the small set of those in the public eye know that they won't get sacked even if they are caught breaking the rules. bring back the stocks is what I'm saying. it'd be a way to use up all the food waste from constantly reopening and closing restaurants at least.
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Cerv posted:yeah. that's a pretty big thing people have to cling on to. sets a terrible standard for what's a reasonable exception to judge yourself against. Public flogging of MPs would be great. Good money maker too, £5 to throw a bit of rotten fruit at this week's disgraced MP. All proceeds go to charity.
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crispix posted:Could do an updated Chris Rea song like poooooosssstiiiiiiin onliiiiiiiiine foh chriiiiiiiistmaaaaaaaaaaas dooo doooo dooooooooooooo doooodoooooooo Staying home for Christmas...
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Cerv posted:yeah. that's a pretty big thing people have to cling on to. sets a terrible standard for what's a reasonable exception to judge yourself against. Just say "you want to be outside the rules? ok, you're outside all of the rules" and see how long they enjoy that for.
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Vigil for Virgil posted:Public flogging of MPs would be great. Get Dave Benson Phillips out of retirement and reboot Get Your Own Back on BBC Parliament.
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sebzilla posted:Get Dave Benson Phillips out of retirement and reboot Get Your Own Back on BBC Parliament. Except instead of sliming them we dunk them out the back of Parliament into the Thames. Rig every commons seat with a trapdoor that leads directly to a chute out the back.
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Dec 20, 2020 10:51
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If the Government really didn't want the virus to spread they should have made restrictions legally binding rather than advisory. It's like a suggested speed limit, the majority are going to ignore it unless there is a realistic chance of getting punished.
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Vigil for Virgil posted:Except instead of sliming them we dunk them out the back of Parliament into the Thames. Depending on what way round the chamber is organised that might make it tricky to get people on one side all the way to the river. Fortunately the Northern Interceptory Sewer goes right under the Palace of Westminster and leads to the river... eventually.
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Dec 20, 2020 10:56
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Worth remembering that a lot of people will have made quite expensive plans for meal arrangements, accommodation, and care for kids and grandparents while the government was telling them 'yep, sure, this will be fine', and now they're shutting everything down while folks are already on the road and offering no kind of support or compensation to help people deal with their plans being disrupted so massively. It's not too surprising that there's a mad, crowded rush out of London at the moment.
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Vigil for Virgil posted:everyone in England thinks that if you don't vote Tory you have to vote labour This is a very weird and annoying thing. "These people are bad for voting Tory" "Yeah, but they didn't like Jollity Crumbum" And that makes you vote Tory how, exactly? Sure, it's a logical reason for not voting Labour, but there's a whole load of other options on the paper, in addition to not voting at all. Hold people responsible for their Tory votes, dammit! 
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Darth Walrus posted:Worth remembering that a lot of people will have made quite expensive plans for meal arrangements, accommodation, and care for kids and grandparents while the government was telling them 'yep, sure, this will be fine', and now they're shutting everything down while folks are already on the road and offering no kind of support or compensation to help people deal with their plans being disrupted so massively. It's not too surprising that there's a mad, crowded rush out of London at the moment. Yeah, the supermarkets will have done really well out of this (while the already stressed shop floor staff will now have to deal with millions of people who suddenly need to buy and prepare for a Christmas dinner in the next four days). Train tickets too. People will have given Virgin et al hundreds to get their families home. Will they get a refund?
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stev posted:Yeah, the supermarkets will have done really well out of this (while the already stressed shop floor staff will now have to deal with millions of people who suddenly need to buy and prepare for a Christmas dinner in the next four days). I've looked at policies and the answer is basically no, you won't get a refund unless whoever sold you the thing offers free refunds or are feeling generous.
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"Consumer Rights? Jeeves hold my phone as I chortle into my orphan tear soup"
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The trains and planes will still run to accommodate people with legit reasons to travel, so mass refunds would just hit* the train companies and airlines. Ideally it should be the government reimbursing everyone since they wot done hosed everyone up. *however they get massive government grift anyway so my sympathy is limited
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:mass refunds would just hit* the train companies and airlines. This is fine.
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Are they making a biting comment about Boris always turning up late by having Kieth hold conferences at incredibly specific times. https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1340587804531826688
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Tarnop posted:Red hot live abstention https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1340596293324992513?s=21
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check with your operator cos most are offering changes without admin fee and/or 12 month rail travel vouchers if government rules change after you've booked. as far as the train companies are concerned they are still running the service, so they've fulfilled their part of the contract. if you don't travel, for whatever reason, that's something you should claim on travel insurance & not up to them to refund. the fact that it's impossible to get insurance cover for pandemic restrictions now is not their problem. this is textbook situation where the government needs to step in *tumbleweed* stev posted:Train tickets too. People will have given Virgin et al hundreds to get their families home. Will they get a refund?
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Bobstar posted:This is a very weird and annoying thing. Didn't someone post on here some evidence that there wasn't actually a mass switch from Labour to Tory votes, but that usual Labour voters did not come out and vote last year?
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Every time I see Labour schedule some announcement or something nowadays I just think ‘who loving cares’? I stumbled across this article earlier: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/29/panic-britain-public-debt-government-borrowing-pandemic It’s a good explanation of why borrowing is fine, written in October of this year. Given the turbo austerity we’re about to get, it’s important that everyone with a functioning mind and sense of empathy starts shouting very loving loudly about poo poo like this. They got away with it last time on the back of outright, provable lies about the economy. Let’s try not to let them do it again.
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Dec 20, 2020 11:39
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The government doesn't actually care about whether people follow the rules, them creating new rules and tiers by pulling them out of their arse is entirely performative at this point. "Look at us, being tough because we're so worried about the pandemic  [prances off to a party hosted by a hedge fund]"
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Reminder: if you are or know of a labour party member who has been suspended, there's a zoom call at noon: SOS Legal Advice Session with Mark McDonald QC https://www.facebook.com/events/2784916841751921/ (On that page, click the link after the word 'online' - obviously not on this image!)  As far as I know you can see this page without a FB account and the call is on zoom not FB.
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Cerv posted:I'm intrigued by the ambiguity there. Pro-tip: Cats love Turkey. The smaller and thinner the pieces the better.
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Jakabite posted:Every time I see Labour schedule some announcement or something nowadays I just think ‘who loving cares’? The left needs to put even more work in than rebutting austerity I'm afraid, even though we failed to even do that last time. Winning the argument that it's okay for the government to spend money will just let the Tories continue the corrupt tendering practices they've been getting familiar with during the pandemic and so give more millions to their local pub landlords new business importing construction equipment or something. We need to offer a qualitative argument about the society that we want to have after the pandemic and demand that funding and regulation is provided to make that a reality, put the monetary figures at the very end of the argument. So all high streets are dead now - let's turn empty units into social housing with decent building regulations rather than let the owners create slum domitories, hell let's just demolish them and create new public parks to create green public spaces and help the environment. Nationalise all public transport under regional hubs with oversight from local government so it's democratically accountable and co-ordinated with each other. Push for the regional investment banks that Labour proposed with strict criteria about supporting businesses that are based in each area rather than larger national or international corporations. Cancel all pandemic related debts and arrears because it's the definition of odious and onerous debt. There's probably a ton of other good concepts about rebuilding each local area and that's where the argument needs to start.
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Cerv posted:I'm intrigued by the ambiguity there. For 17 years it was me and my kitties until they shuffled off this mortal coil. Lovely times were had by all. Mind you, they didn't think much of the special 'christmas dinner' cat food! And they never wanted to eat that large box of guylian praleins I got them*, so I had to eat them all - what a crying shame. :cryingiconicanneverfind: *for anyone not sure, this is a joke - never tried to feed my cats chocolate as it can be fatal for cats.
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namesake posted:The left needs to put even more work in than rebutting austerity I'm afraid, even though we failed to even do that last time. Winning the argument that it's okay for the government to spend money will just let the Tories continue the corrupt tendering practices they've been getting familiar with during the pandemic and so give more millions to their local pub landlords new business importing construction equipment or something. We need to offer a qualitative argument about the society that we want to have after the pandemic and demand that funding and regulation is provided to make that a reality, put the monetary figures at the very end of the argument. So all high streets are dead now - let's turn empty units into social housing with decent building regulations rather than let the owners create slum domitories, hell let's just demolish them and create new public parks to create green public spaces and help the environment. Nationalise all public transport under regional hubs with oversight from local government so it's democratically accountable and co-ordinated with each other. Push for the regional investment banks that Labour proposed with strict criteria about supporting businesses that are based in each area rather than larger national or international corporations. Cancel all pandemic related debts and arrears because it's the definition of odious and onerous debt. There's probably a ton of other good concepts about rebuilding each local area and that's where the argument needs to start. Absolutely agree. Simply winning the factual argument is the sort of thing comfortable liberals equate to winning the game totally, but as you said it’s not the end or the beginning of it, just something that ultimately needs to happen at some point. I’d add that fostering a culture of direct action and mutual aid, whether or not you believe electoralism can make a difference, is important. Ultimately if the powerful feel like voting is the only tool the public feels it has in its arsenal, then there will always be a million Keir Starmers there to neuter even that. Diversity of tactics etc. etc. I’m due to speak to someone from Zero COVID on Monday by the way - pretty sure it was you who posted them in here? They’re a bit light on the website about what financial support they want to see and whether I put anything towards helping the campaign will hinge on that but I think it’s a decent idea and seems to have some fairly sensible thinking behind it.
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Failed Imagineer posted:You gonna get some new catte? The lease on my flat says no pets. But.... I had to go see the Treasurer last week and noticed a used litter tray. Didn't say anything. Then a couple of days later saw a catte in her window..... so I'm thinking it might be a little flexible - especially since the lessees are also members of the management company which is the freeholder and I'm the Chair and a director! I was thinking - covid permitting - I might do some of the long distance 'bucket list' traveling I want to do first though eg Antarctica and Canada if I can ever afford to - bearing in mind my advancing years. Then look into getting a catte (maybe an older catte). The only issue really is that my flat is tiny and there are just two windows - one in the living room, one in the bedroom, and I'm thinking about litter tray smells! There's no door direct to the outside so no chance of a cat flap.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:The lease on my flat says no pets. But.... I had to go see the Treasurer last week and noticed a used litter tray. Didn't say anything. Then a couple of days later saw a catte in her window..... so I'm thinking it might be a little flexible - especially since the lessees are also members of the management company which is the freeholder and I'm the Chair and a director! In my experience no pets really means 'no dogs' and cats can sometimes get a pass but I guess it wildly varies.
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I'm seeing a lot of assumptions (not just here but also on FB and Twitter) that people 'fleeing' London last night must be second home owners. Many of them, I'm sure, will be youngish people in their 20s living in cramped flat shares, possibly even having to share a bedroom with a stranger. I fully understand why non-Londoners are pissed off with 'the rats fleeing a sinking ship', as I have seen it referred to, on the Covid Express, but also can understand why so many were trying to leave last night.
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peanut- posted:Realise I’m appealing for logic where there is none, just the desperation to get a “legal” train out to get to where you’re staying illegally is properly weird to me. Strangers and possibly police can judge you when you're on the train. Once you get to your illegal destination you're mostly sitting around at home with extended family.
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SpicePro posted:In my experience no pets really means 'no dogs' and cats can sometimes get a pass but I guess it wildly varies. Agreed. And better to ask for forgiveness than permission in this case I think. Cats can always poo poo outside, they like it
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