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My worry about that crack is that it doesn't seem like it went completely through (I don't see any marks near the fretboard), so whoever repaired it could have only done so much to reglue things. Those are $550 new, and Epiphones generally do not have good resale value, and broken ones even less. I guess you have to ask yourself is the risk of the repair coming undone worth saving $200 now, and if the finish damage will bother you when playing high notes.
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DrChu posted:My worry about that crack is that it doesn't seem like it went completely through (I don't see any marks near the fretboard), so whoever repaired it could have only done so much to reglue things. Are you saying you would want it to break all the way? This runs counter to what techs I know have said about various neck repair jobs. Partial neck breaks go quicker and cost less to do. Put glue in the hole and clamp it. Biggest worry is just that the repairee didn't clean up the finish itself so they may or may not have been that experienced at doing the work. That is more concerning to me than the length of the crack itself. Honestly it looks a little weird to me because 1. they closed it up without trying to refinish it and 2. there is a lot of excess sanding that went on there on the heel. It makes it stand out more than I would think a repair tech would want. The crack looks closed well enough but that bugs me a bit. It also makes me wonder what the year of it is and it's repair history, the front doesn't make it look all that old. Did it not have warranty when it happened? Who was it taken to if anybody for that job? Was it done by a previous owner who traded it in? If it was traded in did none of the shop's techs take a look at it?
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Dec 19, 2020 04:39
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A used epi LP is barely worth $350 even without a potential time bomb like a repaired broken neck. Skip that guitar and keep looking.
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Anyone own or played a guitar with a sustainiac pickup? I've been thinking of buying one of those higher end schecter 7 strings that have the sustaniac for the neck pickup, but I just wonder...How does the neck pickup sound? Like just normally, not with the thing on? Good/bad? I use the neck pickup a lot. More than the bridge really. So I'm just curious i guess.
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Thanks for the input y'all. Still gonna ask some questions from the tech tomorrow but I think I'll pass, as much as I love the silverburst.
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Dec 19, 2020 05:11
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In my IMHO mo you should look at a gretsch junior jet at that price range. Slightly different vibe but a very nice guitar
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Wowporn posted:In my IMHO mo you should look at a gretsch junior jet at that price range. Slightly different vibe but a very nice guitar With the added bonus of having Filtertron-style pickups 
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Dec 19, 2020 06:00
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Filtertrons are my jam they're so good
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I really like the thin line telecasters I've seen with filter trons but I haven't had a chance to play one. The gretsch streamliners sound great clean and overdriven but I've had issues with them staying in tune which could just be that they're new in store. I made an appointment at a local store the other day to try a few guitars out. They had the squier 72 vintage modified reissue thinline telecaster with two fender wide range humbuckers. I played it side by side with a fender and it's noticeable but I'm not sure I could justify doubling the price for the subtle differences. For the same price of a Mexican tele, I could get the squier and a used hot rod deluxe. Nice thing is regardless of the guitar you buy, this shop does a full personalized setup with new strings free of charge. I also tried a lot of acoustics in the last few weeks. Looking at acoustics under $1k. Im not a fan of super warm and dull guitars but I've realized Taylor's are way too bright for my taste despite playing like a dream. I can't find a lot of takamine around me which is a bummer because they always used to be great guitars. Breedlove used to make incredible guitars but most of what I've found were too thin and bright. I've actually been very shocked by the Martin road series. I really liked the gpc11e and a d10e but I did find some quality issues like fret buzz and dead strings between two of the same model. The guy helping me with the tele brought out a guitar from a brand I wasn't familiar with, removed the price tag and had me play it. It played really well. Looked great. Sounded good and balanced. It was an Eastman for $599. He told me about them, made in China, makes a lot of orchestral instruments and tends to copy martin. Not sure I would pull the trigger on it but it has my attention. It's funny, Im trying to decide if spending $1800 on two new guitars and a new amp is a good idea but I just paid off my student loans and was used to paying $1200/mo so comparatively it's not that bad. I'll be trading in my schecter acoustic plus some Christmas cash and a gift card I received from work to lessen the blow. I should probably buy my wife something. I hope she likes telecasters. Verman fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Dec 19, 2020 09:35
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Verman posted:I really like the thin line telecasters I've seen with filter trons but I haven't had a chance to play one. The gretsch streamliners sound great clean and overdriven but I've had issues with them staying in tune which could just be that they're new in store. I noticed my Double Jet had issues staying in tune until I had it set up at the shop. Guess it needed some professional love. Verman posted:It's funny, Im trying to decide if spending $1800 on two new guitars and a new amp is a good idea but I just paid off my student loans and was used to paying $1200/mo so comparatively it's not that bad. I'll be trading in my schecter acoustic plus some Christmas cash and a gift card I received from work to lessen the blow. His-and-hers Filtertron bridge Teles!
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I've got a Squier Tele that was modded by the previous owner to house a proper Gretsch-made Filtertron in the neck. It's great for cleans, and not at all like a humbucker in tone, less heft and mids presence. It doesn't take distortion except for heavy fuzz - mild distortions don't seem to "take" at all and the clean sings through it. I think Ftrons somehow manage to have a lot of very high frequency content (like 6k+) without sounding shrill at all. The effect is similar to the sound of a vinyl record needle, a kind of slightly scratchy, warm sound, like an old hi-fi system. Even with the tone knob rolled completely off, it sounds trebly and clear.
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Weird BIAS posted:Are you saying you would want it to break all the way? This runs counter to what techs I know have said about various neck repair jobs. Partial neck breaks go quicker and cost less to do. Put glue in the hole and clamp it. Biggest worry is just that the repairee didn't clean up the finish itself so they may or may not have been that experienced at doing the work. That is more concerning to me than the length of the crack itself. I guess it depends on the location. I can see a partial break at the headstock end being ok to repair, but my concern about this location is that if the wood only partially cracked, that means the remaining wood had to bend to accommodate it, and things rarely bend back into the same shape. On a headstock that may change its angle a little bit, which doesn't really matter since its past the nut, but on the body side I'd look real close to the fretboard around the break area and make sure there's no hump or raised area. Easiest way to do this would be to hold the guitar so you're eye-level with the strings, with your face around the strap button, looking from behind the bridge to the headstock. Aim at a light, and use the straightness of the strings to compare the fretboard. It should be easy to see any irregularities if you look at the edges of the fretboard. Also, take the tech's opinion with a grain of salt. He works for the shop that's trying to sell you the guitar, not you.
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Dec 19, 2020 16:23
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If its made in Korea buy it. LP glue necks snap all the time, no big deal.
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I vote pass on silverburst LP unless you can haggle them down to about 225-250. Shouldn’t be too hard to do since it has a hosed up neck. Eastman guitars are real good.
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Dec 19, 2020 17:25
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Everything silver burst has an Adam Jones tax on it ever since his sig model came out. Maybe the shop is trying to cash on on that But still that asking price is too much.
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They're selling it on consignment and this is a well established and respected shop, so I'm not really worried about the tech jerking me around over commission on a cheap guitar. But if I can't pin down the provenance or quality of the repair I'm not gonna do it even at $250. Edit: shop tech said it looks secure and should hold indefinitely with normal playing, but wouldnt vouch for the quality since he didn't do it and didn't know who had. Also seemed a little iffy on whether it would withstand truss rod adjustment. My search continues. mango sentinel fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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That must've been one hell of a hit on the fretboard near the headstock to crack it through at that location. See if you can get pics up there.
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Or someone stepped on it right above the heel when it was leaning on something.
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Most of the Asian-made LP necks have a two piece heel, and the joint is right where the break is on the Epiphone. Like someone said, probably stronger than the original now. I wouldn't pay that much, though. And for cheap LP copies, the Firefly LPs are back, with 7 colors still available. Once again I missed out on the Pelham blue with the carved heel. https://guitarsgarden.com/collections/fflp-electric-guitars Still think they're a little too expensive for what you get now that they're almost $200. I don't have one to really compare, but at the $200 mark there are Glen Burton and Jay Turser copies that are already pretty decent.
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How do people feel about the Ibanez S521?
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Dec 20, 2020 01:24
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If you can wait 3 months for delivery Harley Benton seem like they have good entry level copies of gibson designs. I had considered their LP special w/p90's that came out recently before I found the mustang I have that I'm swapping the humbuckers out of as soon as my p90's arrive. They also have an sg that looks a little like the LTD viper that I would probably get if I wanted a metal guitar
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mango sentinel posted:How do people feel about the Ibanez S521? I've been eyeing it online but haven't had a chance to play one in stores. The S series body shapes are very appealing.
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Are all Ibanez S-series super thin or is that only the Prestige line? I really like the idea of an extremely thin 5 pound guitar.
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When I pick up my mustang I feel like I'm picking up a prop guitar for a school play cause it weighs like one ounce and is paper thin
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Lester Shy posted:Are all Ibanez S-series super thin or is that only the Prestige line? I really like the idea of an extremely thin 5 pound guitar. Theyre all extremely thin. I haven't had a chance to play with one in person, I wanna know how much the electronics panel actually pokes out the back. I've played around with an RGA42 in a store, and didn't mind the neck but I have a small frame of reference and don't really know what I like in a neck beyond satin finish.
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Wowporn posted:When I pick up my mustang I feel like I'm picking up a prop guitar for a school play cause it weighs like one ounce and is paper thin  Epi Faded '63 Wilshire, ~5.5 lbs, 1.5" thick. Some of the vintage ones are even lighter. I've got a 60s Olympic which is a single coil version, and it's a little heavier due to the lack of a rout for the neck pickup and a smaller control cavity. They make we wonder what the new Coronet/Wilshire weigh.
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Wowporn posted:When I pick up my mustang I feel like I'm picking up a prop guitar for a school play cause it weighs like one ounce and is paper thin I really wish they made an HH Classic Vibe Mustang instead of just the 60s one. Or that they would do a Squire version of the Meteora. 
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I have an S570 from 2013 and it’s a shredders delight. 7.4 lbs, but feels skinny and very comfortable. If you want to see a particular view, let me know.  
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I did a thing today. Squier vintage modified 72 telecaster thinline. I traded my personality-lacking schecter diamond series sw3000 acoustic for a discount on it which made the out the door price less than $300. The store was super friendly and helpful. They're going to do a full setup and new strings free of charge next week.    But then I realized I was now without an acoustic guitar. I've been to most of the stores around Seattle (with open showrooms) in the last few weeks to try all the acoustics in my price range (sub $1000). I ignored visuals and only considered how they played and what they sounded like. I played literally every guitar in my range and even a few above. I was the most impressed by the martins road series for this range, taylors were too bright. I was on my way to make the final decision and buy the Martin. Then I found this.    A used Breedlove Roots series DSR/H for $800 which looked brand new. Made in Oregon, no fret wear, no buzz, and all the wood looked immaculate. Strings were brand new. It played perfectly. Sounded great, warm and balanced with nice bottom end and not too bright. Exactly what I was looking for. Standard dreadnought and came with a super plush deluxe hardshell case. I had to look up the model to see what it was all about. Sitka top, rosewood sides and back. Mohagany neck, ebony fretboard, abalone details. Seeing what they're going for elsewhere, it felt like a steal. Plus I had a $200 gift card I just received from work this week so that made it easier. It's a beautiful guitar ... so I brought it home too. My wife laughed when I got home with two. I technically only bought one new guitar since the other was used. I left with one and came back with two so it's like I only bought one. Also, when researching the telecaster I was looking for demos of people playing it and I came across this video from Fender. The first song is so good and now I'm learning how to play it frame by frame from the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXqO8Q17bF4 Verman fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Dec 20, 2020 |
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mango sentinel posted:I really wish they made an HH Classic Vibe Mustang instead of just the 60s one. I was actually going to get a Meteora. Not like, oh it'd be cool, but just waiting for places to get it. Then no one seemed to get one, and when I found places that did they were sold. And reverb is a little too much with shipping. Makes me sad. The Meteora is one of the coolest new designs in my opinion. If they put them out again and I could actually get one I'd jump on it immediately.
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Yeah, that looks like a hell of lot guitar with a nice case, too. Great looking CV.
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Verman posted:I did a thing today. Great find! It's so nice to pick up an acoustic guitar that just works for you. I've been looking for a while myself but haven't found anything that feels just right.
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Verman posted:I did a thing today. lol. when I was 16, my dad got me my first "real" guitar for Christmas. We spent the afternoon at Guitar Center and I wound up picking out a gorgeous Breedlove that was like 40% off at $650, I believe. It had to be an end of year or new year sale. Awesome finishing, came with an excellent semi-rigid case, way too loud and bright in hindsight. Breedloves are wonderful and I recommend them to everybody. Anyway, to get to the point of the story, we're at the counter putting together the sale and my dad's like "is there anything else you need? Picks? Strings? How's your strap?" And I'm like "yeah, one sec. I have to get something"--and I immediately march over across whole the showroom to the wall of electrics, grab the first Lake Placid blue HSS MIM Strat I reach, look it over, grab a second one, look it over, choose one, bring it back to the counter, and proceed to pull out $550 in cash I'd saved up for the better part of the year (this is when they were like $499) saying to the sales guy "yeah, so this one's coming too" and I look at my confused but pleased dad and go "I don't think I have enough money, can I get a gig bag for it?" And such was Probably My Best Christmas, except in hindsight I didn't give myself the chance to actually try the guitar first (I figured it was a Fender Strat, it was fine) and I would've definitely rather had a single coil Strat if I could do it again, but at the time I was upgrading from a '99 Squier I'd paid $50 from a teacher for and I was blinded by the potential of Babby's First Humbucker. I made the same mistake with my Danelectro, getting the version with the humbucker in the bridge because "humbucker better, humbucker chunkier, humbucker more versatile" that I feel strips all the character out of the guitar. There's kind of a "generic humbucker sound" that a lot of these H-S variant guitars have, Idk, discuss.
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Rolabi Wizenard posted:I have an S570 from 2013 and it’s a shredders delight. 7.4 lbs, but feels skinny and very comfortable. If you want to see a particular view, let me know. Is the neck still pretty narrow? I have an S470 with the same paint job from around 2000. I don’t believe the bodies have changed much but I do remember playing my friends RG at the time and having buyers remorse about how much more breathing room that RG neck had. I have pretty big hands so that may be a factor too. Love what they do with the truss rod adjustment access nowadays
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Does anyone have a Stroboplus HD? Does true bypass mode mean that the unit itself can be powered off/battery drained but will still pass signal through? That is to say, it doesn’t need to be powered on for the duration of playing?
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Ferg posted:Is the neck still pretty narrow? I have an S470 with the same paint job from around 2000. I don’t believe the bodies have changed much but I do remember playing my friends RG at the time and having buyers remorse about how much more breathing room that RG neck had. I have pretty big hands so that may be a factor too. The width here is 1.7” at the nut and 2.1” at the 12th. The neck feels flat and thin. It’s a “Wizard III” by I’m not sure of the differences between the wizards.
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I just noodled Foxy Lady after reading this thread talk about implied chords and related theory, and honestly that main riff seems like the platonic ideal of jazz to me now. The riff is basically this chord, 2x4x55, plus some blues pentatonic stuff. My point is that the "chord"is basically played as two parts, with the bass playing the root F# (with octaves), and the treble bit is just E and A, or the 3rd and 7th of F#minor. Super simple, implying a seventh chord with just the two notes. My point is that thanks thread for letting me analyze a song I like and having the riff make sense to me, and also letting me see/hear how implying chords can work.
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I posted that song this past week and said, "Man, it sucks that I'm a little behind for so much of this." I took a couple of days away, bumped the guitar audio literally two frames and it was PERFECT. It never stops amazing me how much fractions of a second matter in music. And also how much 48 hours of space can make a difference in your ability to work with something.
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The Foxy Lady chord is a dominant 7 #9 chord, meaning it has a minor 3rd (#9), but either implicitly or explicitly, there's a major third too (dominant 7 chords have major thirds). In classical harmony it's sometimes called a "split tertian" chord. Rockists call it the Hendrix chord but it's had a place in American pop since at least the Tin Pan Alley days. Duke Ellington used them often. #9 chords rule
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Ok Comboomer posted:I made the same mistake with my Danelectro, getting the version with the humbucker in the bridge because "humbucker better, humbucker chunkier, humbucker more versatile" that I feel strips all the character out of the guitar. There's kind of a "generic humbucker sound" that a lot of these H-S variant guitars have, Idk, discuss. I dunno that lipstick humbucker on the 59x sounds like something special. I agree about the strats, although I tend to think the bridge pickup is not generally the priority when you’re going with a strat anyway
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