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Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Nitrousoxide posted:

You can run it on a PC. Obviously it’ll only work as long as the PC is on so it may not be a terribly energy efficient way of running a home bridge. If you get a raspberry pi it will be a extremely low power way to maintain that bridge and it won’t break because the computer shut off due to Windows updates.

The home bridge website includes a how-to for setting it up on a raspberry pi. I would personally recommend that method if you are doing more than just dipping your foot into experimenting with it.

Went with the unraid docker container and damnnnnnnnn this is slick. Seeing all my Ring cams (after installing the plugin) right in the Home app on my phone is pretty sweet.

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MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

japtor posted:

How many major players are even there outside of them? Apple is the obvious one, I think Samsung and LG have stuff too, but it seems like 90% of it is through Google/Amazon...or some hodgepodge of stuff I'd trust even less than them (and most of those work through Google/Amazon too).

Would Home Assistant count, or Homebridge (in conjunction w/HomeKit), or is it kinda moot privacy wise since the devices themselves still use the other services?

FCKGW posted:

Apple Homekit stuff since they aren’t literally an advertising company.

Devices like TP-link have local APIs so you can use them even without cloud access.

Thanks, I'll look into these. I just don't want to get into the google (after just leaving it) ecosystem, and don't want Alexa spying on me neither.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

japtor posted:

How many major players are even there outside of them? Apple is the obvious one, I think Samsung and LG have stuff too, but it seems like 90% of it is through Google/Amazon...or some hodgepodge of stuff I'd trust even less than them (and most of those work through Google/Amazon too).

There is Wink but they are circling the drain. And then of course AMX, Savant, Control4, Crestron, etc

Savant bought GE lighting for their low-end home automation products, so I figure they will probably move into the consumer space at some point in the not too distance future. I recently put in 5 GE WiFi dimmers and am very happy with them.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Holy poo poo, there's a Homebridge plugin for my Pentair pool controls. I can now use Siri to mess with the pool pump, turn the spa on, change the temperature, change the color of the lights, turn on the cleaner. All instead of Pentair's app that they don't ever update. This rules.

Thanks, dude who suggested Homebridge!

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Never mind I figured it out

Nitrousoxide fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Dec 18, 2020

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I've had a look around but wondering about open-sourcing/getting rid of the china cloud poo poo on my UL-Tech K8208-W NVR. Done some googling but I'm very green on this. Any pointers?

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

FCKGW posted:

Apple Homekit stuff since they aren’t literally an advertising company.

Devices like TP-link have local APIs so you can use them even without cloud access.
Related note about TP-Link, I have their wifi/router and block some devices from there, and they still work with HomeKit remotely (while using my Apple TV as a hub at least). Course it doesn't stop devices from potentially snooping around and doing stuff on the LAN but whatever :shrug:, and still have to let them through for updates I think.

For the record the Vocolinc bulbs haven't tried phoning home afaik, but my Meross smart plug did before.

There's some fancier routers with HomeKit support that iirc can put the stuff on their own LAN separated from everything else and can control access outside, no clue how/if it that'd work with Homebridge though.

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Holy poo poo, there's a Homebridge plugin for my Pentair pool controls. I can now use Siri to mess with the pool pump, turn the spa on, change the temperature, change the color of the lights, turn on the cleaner. All instead of Pentair's app that they don't ever update. This rules.

Thanks, dude who suggested Homebridge!
Yeah it owns, I set it up for HomeKit support my garage (myQ). It has official support through another piece of hardware but it doesn't seem all that great, almost went for that when I noticed there was a Homebridge docker package for my NAS too (Synology). Course myQ breaks the plugin semi regularly it seems but the dev is really active about updating at least.

And one extra note about that, Siri doesn't allow opening garages except when authenticated. So the watch works, and iPhone works if unlocked, while HomePod or headphones on the phone ask you to unlock the phone first. But apparently it has no problem if there's an automation trigger for whatever random unsecured device to open it :psyduck:. So I used a dummy switch to open, only weirdness is I have to say to turn it "on" rather than "open" it.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

japtor posted:

Yeah it owns, I set it up for HomeKit support my garage (myQ). It has official support through another piece of hardware but it doesn't seem all that great, almost went for that when I noticed there was a Homebridge docker package for my NAS too (Synology). Course myQ breaks the plugin semi regularly it seems but the dev is really active about updating at least.

And one extra note about that, Siri doesn't allow opening garages except when authenticated. So the watch works, and iPhone works if unlocked, while HomePod or headphones on the phone ask you to unlock the phone first. But apparently it has no problem if there's an automation trigger for whatever random unsecured device to open it :psyduck:. So I used a dummy switch to open, only weirdness is I have to say to turn it "on" rather than "open" it.

Yeah I’d like to do the myQ thing. I’ve seen the Chamberlain hub on sale left and right, but my opener is 20 years old and isn’t supported. Thought about just getting a new Chamberlain opener with native support but I can’t stand the whole IFTTT poo poo where they used to charge $1/month just to connect it to the app. I know now it’s free, but they also say they can revoke that anytime. Super scummy.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Home assistant may be a better option if you're trying to setup automation or things like that. Like homebridge it's locally hosted and can link up non-homekit stuff with homekit. But it's also more powerful in that you can create automations that aren't really possible natively inside of homekit like doing something when it's a certain temperature outside.

It's probably worth a try since you can just backup the image on your pi

Edit: Actually I got more powerful automations working in the eve app for HomeKit. I also added the weather plus plug-in to homebridge to give me weather data that I can base automations off of. So no need to use home assistant for that I suppose.

Nitrousoxide fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Dec 19, 2020

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Yeah I’d like to do the myQ thing. I’ve seen the Chamberlain hub on sale left and right, but my opener is 20 years old and isn’t supported. Thought about just getting a new Chamberlain opener with native support but I can’t stand the whole IFTTT poo poo where they used to charge $1/month just to connect it to the app. I know now it’s free, but they also say they can revoke that anytime. Super scummy.
There's this Best Buy/Insignia thing, I would've tried that myself instead but the myQ enabled ones like mine aren't compatible (hell I had to get an adapter just for my car's older built in opener). Looking on Amazon it seems like there's some other HomeKit options, otherwise it looks like there's a billion other non HomeKit ones which I assume would work with Homebridge.

Spagghentleman
Jan 1, 2013
I have a bunch of different smart plugs/ smart lighting from different brands. Currently running three different applications since they’re all under different brands.

One thing I noticed is that all three apps are VERY similar in layout and operation. They basically look like the same app with a different skin. I have also heard a lot of these smart devices are just rebranded from a common manufacturer.

Is there a single app I can use to concentrate all these smart devices into so I’m not having to run three different apps on my phone? The three I’m using are Geeni, Globe Suite, and SP1 Commercial Electric.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

What ecosystem are you looking for? If you’re on iOS, use the homebridge software on your PC, a NAS, raspberry pi, etc. I found the magic that is homebridge last week and it’s incredible.

e: I just set it up as a docker app on my NAS but just ordered a Pi 4 so I can have a dedicated device run it.

Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Dec 20, 2020

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



If you aren’t in an iOS ecosystem you can also use the Google home app to add various smart devices to it. I believe Amazon has a version as well for their smart home management. Personally I would not trust Amazon with the ability to do anything it wants to my house but you do you.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
Ok I’ve now got like what I think is three different protocols of bulbs in my house. I have a couple of meross bulbs that I don’t like, directly hooked up to HomeKit. Four sengled multicolour WiFi bulbs, accessible only with their app. And a hub (Z02 elements hub) with two bulbs it came with. I thought I’d be able to either connect the hub to all six bulbs and send it through homebridge to HomeKit or connect the hub directly to HomeKit, controlling the bulbs through HomeKit alone.

However, this is the Z02 model and not the E39 model of the elements hub. The E39 model connects to HomeKit. And I can’t get these WiFi lights to connect to the hub anyway, they just pop a message when I go to add sub devices about being WiFi bulbs.

So, can the objective bolded above be done with sengled WiFi bulbs?

Update from sengled support:

quote:


Hello!

Thank you for contacting Sengled Support!

You cannot connect WiFi bulbs to a hub, since they are not ZigBee devices. Only our ZigBee devices are currently able to be used with Apple HomeKit at this time.

Please let me know if you need anything else!

Have a great day,

Marty
Sengled Support

Well then!

tuyop fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Dec 21, 2020

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Is there any way to organize my list of automations in the iOS Home app, or is it just seriously a massive list, sometimes without specifying devices?

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Is there any way to control Homekit devices with google assistant? I've got Apple and Android items and want to be center my devices through Homekit and Homebridge. Pretty much all the Homebridge items work in Google Home, but I don't really see a way to control the Homekit items outside of the Apple walled garden.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Nitrousoxide posted:

Is there any way to control Homekit devices with google assistant? I've got Apple and Android items and want to be center my devices through Homekit and Homebridge. Pretty much all the Homebridge items work in Google Home, but I don't really see a way to control the Homekit items outside of the Apple walled garden.
I haven't tried it myself, but seems like anything that works in Homebridge should work with Google Home using this plugin

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Nitrousoxide posted:

Is there any way to control Homekit devices with google assistant? I've got Apple and Android items and want to be center my devices through Homekit and Homebridge. Pretty much all the Homebridge items work in Google Home, but I don't really see a way to control the Homekit items outside of the Apple walled garden.

You can use Home Assistant as a HomeKit controller (meaning that's what the device is registered to, rather than directly into whatever your HomeKit hub device is), and then export from that to your actual HomeKit controller as well as to Google Assistant.

(I don't have any HK only devices so I don't know how well it works.)

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Endless Mike posted:

I haven't tried it myself, but seems like anything that works in Homebridge should work with Google Home using this plugin

This will unfortunately only let you see homeBRIDGE devices. Any homekit devices you link up directly to your homekit system won't work as far as I can tell.

Unless there's some easy way to connect your homekit devices to your homebridge which I'm missing, they'd end up being left out.

Kalman posted:

You can use Home Assistant as a HomeKit controller (meaning that's what the device is registered to, rather than directly into whatever your HomeKit hub device is), and then export from that to your actual HomeKit controller as well as to Google Assistant.

(I don't have any HK only devices so I don't know how well it works.)


I looked into this, and while it would do what I want, getting Nest devices (of which I have several) to work in Home Assistant is nightmarish compared to Homebridge. It requires setting up a domain and a developer account with Google so you can get an API.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Is there any way to organize my list of automations in the iOS Home app, or is it just seriously a massive list, sometimes without specifying devices?

If there is a way, I don’t know about it either.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


bobfather posted:

Their devices are firmware upgradable. If you have a Hubitat hub (I do) you can do it from the hub, or you can buy a cheap z-wave USB stick and do it from your computer. I would check their support to see if an updated firmware exists.

Apparently my smart plugs were from a period where their manufacturer was changing poo poo around without telling them, and they had all sorts of problems. I'm guessing this is why my firmware's not listed on their site (since it's not a guarantee which version I have). I sent them an email and they sent back a firmware file, so I'll see how that goes.

I will retract my gripes if it works out.

UPDATE: Gripes retracted.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3635963&pagenumber=139#post519316461

azurite fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Nov 17, 2021

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

ScooterMcTiny posted:

Moving into a new house in Jan, and like another poster above looking to get the basics of a Smart Home/Security system up and running. We are pretty much an all-Apple household to begin with, so I figured HomeKit is the right place to start for us. Here's what I was going to pick up to start with - any glaring omissions?

- Abode security kit with sensors for doors + windows
- Netatmo Video Doorbell
- Ecobee smart thermostat
- Yale Assure smart locks for front + rear door
- 2 Eufy Indoor 2K cameras for inside
- 1 Logitech Circle View for exterior

I figure this will get me pretty comprehensive security + video coverage, and is a good base package to then start to layer on any of the home automation things we want to do later...

You should be good on this. I think ultimately if you go far enough down this road you end up needing another system too (Amazon is probably the platform that the most things cover) but you can go all homekit for quite a while.

ScooterMcTiny
Apr 7, 2004

Rick posted:

You should be good on this. I think ultimately if you go far enough down this road you end up needing another system too (Amazon is probably the platform that the most things cover) but you can go all homekit for quite a while.

Awesome thanks. I figure if I get deep into automation I’ll have to figure out the raspberry pi homebridge nonsense, but I’ll cross that bridge when I get there.

Baconroll
Feb 6, 2009
I really rate the Abode alarm - I replaced my Ring alarm with the Abode 4 months ago and still love it.

For me the significant benefits over Ring were,

Real additional sirens - both indoor and outdoor. I have 2 outdoor sirens and JEBUS they are loud (can adjust it down if you want). Simply perfect - I want piss off the whole street if my alarm goes off.

Can apply automations to the alarm state - With Ring I was limited to Armed/Disarmed. With Abode I can do automations also based on whether the alarm is actually going off. So when my alarm goes off it will also turn on all the lights in the house, trigger 'Ride of the Valyries' at max volume through the Sonos etc

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Can you send in your army of strapped Roombas?

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Can you send in your army of strapped Roombas?

I just replace the brushes with straight razors. Cut them off at the ankle, I tell you.

My cats aren't a fan.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

I want to start adding smart lighting to my home (into Homekit via Homebridge), namely outdoors and in my toddlers room, which are both on opposite sides of the house. It sounds like Hue is the most reliable and most fully-featured, and yet by far, the most expensive.

Couple questions that a quick google didn't answer:
- Does the Hue hub connect to my wifi for outside the home operation? Or does it connect directly to the phone app via Bluetooth or something?
- If my two sets of lights are too far apart, will I have to run multiple Hue hubs? Do those talk to each other or anything?
- Can multiple Hue hubs be linked to Homebridge without issue?

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Another option is Ikea smart light bulbs. They are, in my experience, cheaper than the Philips stuff and while you can use the Ikea hub for their stuff, all their bulbs will also sync to a Zigby hub if you have that, or will be planning on getting it for other devices.

It kind of depends on your needs though. You mentioned outdoor lighting, so maybe you need super bright 1600 lumen stuff, which Ikea doesn't offer.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
So this is interesting. I have those sengled multicolour bulbs hooked up to their HomeKit hub.

Using the sengled app, I have the full range of colours and temperatures of white, as you’d expect.

Using the Home app, I only have RGB colours, even when using the colour picker temperature wheel. So their white is this gross off white blue, and the warmest colour is very much an orange. This happens even if I tell Siri to set them to white or warm white.

So I thought maybe I could set a scene of warm whites in the sengled app, then have Home adopt it as a scene and invoke the scene to get that temperature. But no! Starting with warm white and then switching scenes to colours and switching back to warm white scene sets that gross blue colour!

What gives? Is this standard behaviour for these bulbs?

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

tuyop posted:

So this is interesting. I have those sengled multicolour bulbs hooked up to their HomeKit hub.

Using the sengled app, I have the full range of colours and temperatures of white, as you’d expect.

Using the Home app, I only have RGB colours, even when using the colour picker temperature wheel. So their white is this gross off white blue, and the warmest colour is very much an orange. This happens even if I tell Siri to set them to white or warm white.

So I thought maybe I could set a scene of warm whites in the sengled app, then have Home adopt it as a scene and invoke the scene to get that temperature. But no! Starting with warm white and then switching scenes to colours and switching back to warm white scene sets that gross blue colour!

What gives? Is this standard behaviour for these bulbs?

I don't know these bulbs, but I'm guessing they're RGB-ColdWhite-WarmWhite and the Home app doesn't know that and is talking to them as RGB, which will always give you gross white. What do they show up as in the Home app?

Also looking at their site, I'm not quite sure they understand the point of Zigbee

Do any of the Smart LED bulbs function as a ZigBee repeater?

Our Smart LED bulbs were designed to be used only as ZigBee end devices.

Our engineers made this distinction as repeaters require constant power, but people still tend to power off their bulbs with wall switches when leaving a room.

With no power to the repeater, other end devices may disconnect.

The fact that our Smart LED bulbs are not repeaters also ensures that your ZigBee Network doesn't become overcrowded, which would delay any user controls.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Bobstar posted:

I don't know these bulbs, but I'm guessing they're RGB-ColdWhite-WarmWhite and the Home app doesn't know that and is talking to them as RGB, which will always give you gross white. What do they show up as in the Home app?

Also looking at their site, I'm not quite sure they understand the point of Zigbee

Do any of the Smart LED bulbs function as a ZigBee repeater?

Our Smart LED bulbs were designed to be used only as ZigBee end devices.

Our engineers made this distinction as repeaters require constant power, but people still tend to power off their bulbs with wall switches when leaving a room.

With no power to the repeater, other end devices may disconnect.

The fact that our Smart LED bulbs are not repeaters also ensures that your ZigBee Network doesn't become overcrowded, which would delay any user controls.


This is the bulb’s product page here. Seeing that Apple sells nanoleaf bulbs for $28/bulb and these were $25/bulb plus the hub, I may just start over with the nanoleaf bulbs. Which are sold out everywhere.

For now though, I think I’ve figured out a workaround. I’ll set a schedule to just switch them all over to warm white in the night, and then they’ll be the right colour for the morning and early evening. Then the wild fun rgb stuff can be set with HomeKit scenes.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

I want to start adding smart lighting to my home (into Homekit via Homebridge), namely outdoors and in my toddlers room, which are both on opposite sides of the house. It sounds like Hue is the most reliable and most fully-featured, and yet by far, the most expensive.

Couple questions that a quick google didn't answer:
- Does the Hue hub connect to my wifi for outside the home operation? Or does it connect directly to the phone app via Bluetooth or something?
- If my two sets of lights are too far apart, will I have to run multiple Hue hubs? Do those talk to each other or anything?
- Can multiple Hue hubs be linked to Homebridge without issue?

The hub needs an ethernet connection to function. Or rather, it needs ethernet for you to communicate with it (it will do all its various functions it can do without internet after you set it up even if your internet is down, but you can't communicate with it in anyway without internet [exception: zigbee-based switches don't need internet]) . Your commands to it are relayed to your hub over your network.

My guess is you will not be able to control lights outside of the range of a single hub, and will need multiple for long distances. They do make bulbs that connect only to wifi (although I think they do not have the hue name to avoid confusion) and you could definitely integrate them into a homekit environment and add them to various scenes and automations, and they will probably work as well as any other wifi bulb (kind of lovely sometimes but usually fine).

I've definitely read tales of people with hundreds of hue lights and multiple hubs so I believe multiple work; my guess is you would need to be mindful of which hub you were adding which light for your best experience overall, but the rest would be pretty seamless. Homebridge definitely seems to have support for more than one hub built into it, at least the version Home Assistant uses. Another guess is the range on these things must be pretty good, since usually when people need multiple it is because they have more than 50 devices for some reason.

KS
Jun 10, 2003
Outrageous Lumpwad

Rick posted:

They do make bulbs that connect only to wifi (although I think they do not have the hue name to avoid confusion)

Phillips Wiz. I saw them at Home Depot recently and they're dirt cheap -- like 1/4 of Hue. Anyone have any positive/negative experience with them?

e: some of their features look really cool if they're available to everyone.

KS fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Dec 25, 2020

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Rick posted:

The hub needs an ethernet connection to function. Or rather, it needs ethernet for you to communicate with it (it will do all its various functions it can do without internet after you set it up even if your internet is down, but you can't communicate with it in anyway without internet [exception: zigbee-based switches don't need internet]) . Your commands to it are relayed to your hub over your network.

My guess is you will not be able to control lights outside of the range of a single hub, and will need multiple for long distances. They do make bulbs that connect only to wifi (although I think they do not have the hue name to avoid confusion) and you could definitely integrate them into a homekit environment and add them to various scenes and automations, and they will probably work as well as any other wifi bulb (kind of lovely sometimes but usually fine).

I've definitely read tales of people with hundreds of hue lights and multiple hubs so I believe multiple work; my guess is you would need to be mindful of which hub you were adding which light for your best experience overall, but the rest would be pretty seamless. Homebridge definitely seems to have support for more than one hub built into it, at least the version Home Assistant uses. Another guess is the range on these things must be pretty good, since usually when people need multiple it is because they have more than 50 devices for some reason.

Paying for hundreds of Hue lights seems batshit insane to me, holy cow.

Thanks! Sounds like they will work for my house just fine, even if I need multiple hubs. I did see that each bulb might act as a repeater, so I could just have a couple lights between my 2 “rooms” to string the signal along. Is that true?

snickles
Mar 27, 2010

KS posted:

Phillips Wiz. I saw them at Home Depot recently and they're dirt cheap -- like 1/4 of Hue. Anyone have any positive/negative experience with them?

e: some of their features look really cool if they're available to everyone.

I’ve got a couple of Wiz bulbs that we use via Alexa and iOS via homebridge. Never had a problem, and of the ecosystems I use with both Alexa and iOS, they are the only ones that seem be completely reliable with both. Don’t know how to access the “pro” features, doesn’t appear to be part of the basic app.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Paying for hundreds of Hue lights seems batshit insane to me, holy cow.

Thanks! Sounds like they will work for my house just fine, even if I need multiple hubs. I did see that each bulb might act as a repeater, so I could just have a couple lights between my 2 “rooms” to string the signal along. Is that true?

That is right. You could strategically deploy bulbs to extend the signal, that's a good idea.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.
ffffff back up your configurations, folks.

Not sure what happened, but my SD card went corrupt on my Home Assistant Pi. Can't write a new image to it, can't even format it.

Oh well, I had all my stuff written in YAML, now this will force me to give Node Red a try or something.

Then I will back it up somewhere safe...

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Anyone have a homebridge plugin for a roomba i8+? I installed homebridge-roomba2 since I saw someone on Reddit said it worked with their i3, but I can’t get the script working that grabs the roomba password.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


DaveSauce posted:

ffffff back up your configurations, folks.

Not sure what happened, but my SD card went corrupt on my Home Assistant Pi. Can't write a new image to it, can't even format it.

Oh well, I had all my stuff written in YAML, now this will force me to give Node Red a try or something.

Then I will back it up somewhere safe...

SD cards are not very durable flash. They'll poo poo the bed eventually, even sooner if you don't limit your recorder settings. For a restorable config, you should periodically make a tarball of everything under /config and copy it somewhere safe.

To my surprise, the built-in snapshotting feature doesn't help all that much in a disaster. It only captures a subset of what you need.

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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

azurite posted:

To my surprise, the built-in snapshotting feature doesn't help all that much in a disaster. It only captures a subset of what you need.

Wait what? I've totally restored off of nothing other than the backups HA makes.

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