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Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

facialimpediment posted:

I need an excuse to post this, so here is my analysis of the procedure that has led to this (likely pretty good!) deal:

https://twitter.com/GenePark/status/1340800937905037312

Pretty good? Are the people on the verge of eviction gonna get more than 600 bucks?

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not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Man, I feel a bit ripped off with my Cyberpunk experience. I only get some little glitches, like copies of cigarettes hanging in the air, maybe a little bit of clipping.

I want my crazy carnage, dammit.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
I called my car yesterday and it spawned across the road from me directly on top of a cop roadblock :suicide:

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Looking forward to my $600 in July

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Radical 90s Wizard posted:

I called my car yesterday and it spawned across the road from me directly on top of a cop roadblock :suicide:

I can’t tell if this post is about Cyberpunk 2077 or Teslas.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Riot Carol Danvers posted:

Pretty good? Are the people on the verge of eviction gonna get more than 600 bucks?

It's absolutely, completely insufficient on the dollar front and the checks-in-people's hands front. But there's also a lot of good poo poo that has been needed even pre-pandemic, like this:

https://twitter.com/rachel_roubein/status/1340811481298989056

Lots of vaccine money, education money, rental money, extended unemployment (though halved), an eviction moratorium extension, and backdoor money-to-states funding as well. Considering Republicans were absolutely, completely happy with $0, I call that pretty good.

The breakdown, pre-text release, is here:

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1340810117936271361

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

What exactly is surprise billing?


Is it that bullshit where you pay your copay, the insurance pays whatever, and it's been like two months because of insurance paperwork and you end up getting billed a couple hundred bucks because insurance didn't cover everything?

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Defenestrategy posted:

What exactly is surprise billing?


Is it that bullshit where you pay your copay, the insurance pays whatever, and it's been like two months because of insurance paperwork and you end up getting billed a couple hundred bucks because insurance didn't cover everything?

Here's the explanation: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/9/21003480/stop-surprise-medical-bills-legislation / https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/an-examination-of-surprise-medical-bills-and-proposals-to-protect-consumers-from-them-3/

It's more about you go to an in-network hospital, for in-network care or an in-network procedure. Then oops, your anesthesiologist was out-of-network, enjoy your $18,000 bill from your insurance for out-of-network care! Congrats, you're hosed.

It was on-track to get done a while back, but Richard Neal (D - Massachusetts Insurance Companies) has been loving with things.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
600 is better than nothing, but terrible for the people who really need it. I'm guessing we're still going to be hosed on the social security withholding thing.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think

God I hate our government’s inability to pass a loving budget on time.

70 day CR, then another week’s worth, then 2 days, and then 1 day.

Get your poo poo in one sock and stop trying to sneak/demand things until the final hour.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1340833945223610370?s=20

Bah gawd, is that the Means Testing bell!?

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

nwin posted:

God I hate our government’s inability to pass a loving budget on time.

70 day CR, then another week’s worth, then 2 days, and then 1 day.

Get your poo poo in one sock and stop trying to sneak/demand things until the final hour.

It gets better - the 1 day carries with it a 7-day to allow for the text/procedure on the omnibus/covid package to roll through. It's still not done after Monday.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think

facialimpediment posted:

It gets better - the 1 day carries with it a 7-day to allow for the text/procedure on the omnibus/covid package to roll through. It's still not done after Monday.

It’s loving stupid. Add to the fact that I work in government finance and the additional work and bullshit we have to deal with because we don’t get a full year’s appropriation loving sucks.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
man we got a bunch of goddamn succ-rear end Dems.

I had hoped a little, so I suppose that's what I get.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Wasabi the J posted:

man we got a bunch of goddamn succ-rear end Dems.

I had hoped a little, so I suppose that's what I get.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





I think this headline pretty well speaks for itself

Thousands flee New South Wales as Australian states prepare to lock out Sydneysiders

https://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/123774382/thousands-flee-new-south-wales-as-australian-states-prepare-to-lock-out-sydneysiders

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
play stupid games with mass gatherings during a pandemic, win stupid prizes

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

https://theintercept.com/2020/12/18/afghanistan-cia-militia-01-strike-force/

quote:


THE 12 BOYS KILLED in the madrassa at Omar Khail that winter night were among scores of civilians massacred during at least 10 previously undocumented night raids in the central Afghan province of Wardak. Beginning in December 2018 and continuing for at least a year, Afghan operatives believed to belong to an elite CIA-trained paramilitary unit known as 01, in partnership with U.S. special operations forces and air power, unleashed a campaign of terror against civilians. This story is based on interviews with more than 50 Wardak residents, including 20 survivors and firsthand witnesses and 29 victims’ relatives and local residents who witnessed the aftermath of the killings within hours of when they occurred. Some of those accounts were corroborated by local officials, analysts, and community representatives.

The 10 raids resulted in the deaths of at least 51 civilians, according to The Intercept’s reporting. In most cases, men and boys as young as 8, few of whom appear to have had any formal relationship with the Taliban, were summarily executed. Some died alone, others alongside friends and family. Several raids were accompanied by airstrikes or, in at least one instance, the detonation of hand-laid explosives targeting structures known to be occupied by civilians.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Winning hearts and minds! :shepface:

...or at least, liberating them from the bodies they inhabit. :smith:

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





ded posted:

play stupid games with mass gatherings during a pandemic, win stupid prizes

Its the thousands flee ahead of lockdown that concerns me, since there's a non-zero chance one or more will have the gift that just keeps on giving

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Defenestrategy posted:

What exactly is surprise billing?


Is it that bullshit where you pay your copay, the insurance pays whatever, and it's been like two months because of insurance paperwork and you end up getting billed a couple hundred bucks because insurance didn't cover everything?

Two months ago I received an $1800 bill for a procedure I had in Sept 2019.

The insurance company said they never received that one, so the hospital had to resubmit. I haven't heard anything since, so I hope it's taken care of. If not...

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Godholio posted:

Two months ago I received an $1800 bill for a procedure I had in Sept 2019.

The insurance company said they never received that one, so the hospital had to resubmit. I haven't heard anything since, so I hope it's taken care of. If not...

An attending Pediatrician when my son was born was out of network at the hospital...we later get a bill for $800. I tell them I have no intention of paying and I didn't consent for my son to receive out of network treatment, they say too bad you have to pay, I say no I don't. They keep sending me stuff, I call the insurance company, who looks into it and tells me to just ignore it, they weren't in network, it's there problem, which I promptly do...and that was it.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

MazelTovCocktail posted:

An attending Pediatrician when my son was born was out of network at the hospital...we later get a bill for $800. I tell them I have no intention of paying and I didn't consent for my son to receive out of network treatment, they say too bad you have to pay, I say no I don't. They keep sending me stuff, I call the insurance company, who looks into it and tells me to just ignore it, they weren't in network, it's there problem, which I promptly do...and that was it.

This happened to us too during an ER visit, and while our Insurance did tell us to ignore it, they hit your credit report eventually.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012


quote:

Originally dubbed “Omega” in Afghanistan, the program temporarily strips special forces of their regular military designation — a process known as “sheep-dipping”— and places them under CIA command.

Is this a True Lies reference :negative:

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

MRC48B posted:

Is this a True Lies reference :negative:

Probably more of a Vietnam nod. The CIA would borrow Greek Project Guys for operations.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

MazelTovCocktail posted:

An attending Pediatrician when my son was born was out of network at the hospital...we later get a bill for $800. I tell them I have no intention of paying and I didn't consent for my son to receive out of network treatment, they say too bad you have to pay, I say no I don't. They keep sending me stuff, I call the insurance company, who looks into it and tells me to just ignore it, they weren't in network, it's there problem, which I promptly do...and that was it.

Yup my wife had to fight quite a while to get the insurance to cover an out-of-network attending surgeon. Like - it was an emergency c-section by the in-network pediatrician at an in-network hospital. We didn't have time to verify all 15 people in the room were in-network before delivering my baby who was stressed.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
Hospital billing departments should be fired into the sun

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Hospitals and medical personnel should be financed by taxation.

Spoggerific
May 28, 2009
Yesterday there was a demonstration of a few hundred people claiming that Biden stole the election and that trump is the real winner of the election...

...in Osaka, Japan? :psyduck:




"Don't be fooled by the media's lies! The US election is not over yet!"

https://twitter.com/visiontimesjp/status/1340576175005990914

About the only "news" outlet I could find covering it was basically the Japanese equivalent to Breitbart, so it's not exactly gaining widespread traction over here, but I guess it goes to show there are people with trump brain worms all over the world. It looks like it's mostly just people that are vehemently opposed to anything and everything China, and trump is louder than Biden, so they automatically assume Biden is a Chinese plant in order to hand them Asia on a silver platter or something.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Riot Carol Danvers posted:

Pretty good? Are the people on the verge of eviction gonna get more than 600 bucks?

A bit more on this point from people analyzing the numbers:

https://twitter.com/bencasselman/status/1340822704052690944?s=19

https://twitter.com/HarrySteinDC/status/1340876092085821445

We might be paying too much attention to the checks (which hit everyone below $75k) versus the $1200/month (on top of state unemployment benefits) that get to the really hosed. That money did a shitload of good and there's more coming (though it's cut versus the early pandemic).

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Dec 21, 2020

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Spoggerific posted:

Yesterday there was a demonstration of a few hundred people claiming that Biden stole the election and that trump is the real winner of the election...

...in Osaka, Japan? :psyduck:




"Don't be fooled by the media's lies! The US election is not over yet!"

https://twitter.com/visiontimesjp/status/1340576175005990914

About the only "news" outlet I could find covering it was basically the Japanese equivalent to Breitbart, so it's not exactly gaining widespread traction over here, but I guess it goes to show there are people with trump brain worms all over the world. It looks like it's mostly just people that are vehemently opposed to anything and everything China, and trump is louder than Biden, so they automatically assume Biden is a Chinese plant in order to hand them Asia on a silver platter or something.

These are also being boosted by far right mutual aid. There's a reason alt right figures showed up in HK during the media's focus on the riots. It's to give the appearance of international support for their agenda; find a whackjob in another country that believes the same horseshit as you and spin them look as legit as possible to your less skeptical target audience.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Every village has their idiot. Ours just bumbled his way into the presidency, unfortunately setting an example for the others.

Untagged
Mar 29, 2004

Hey, does your planet have wiper fluid yet or you gonna freak out and start worshiping us?
Recently a buddy of mine needed an outpatient procedure that required anesthesia. The specialist and medical office were all in-network. The anesthesiologist doctor listed in the mark-up was actually an "in house", listed on the main website as accepting the insurance, and even showing on the insurance database as in-network. All good to go. Should all be covered, after co-pays, etc.

Three weeks after the procedure he gets like a $4500 direct out-of-network bill in the mail from the anesthesiologist. Oh, you see he's a doctor of our practice, and an in-network provider, but when he does anesthesia in the operating room, he actually works for Make You Go-Nite Nite Docs MD LLC and it's not covered by your insurance.


surprise!

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

Untagged posted:

Recently a buddy of mine needed an outpatient procedure that required anesthesia. The specialist and medical office were all in-network. The anesthesiologist doctor listed in the mark-up was actually an "in house", listed on the main website as accepting the insurance, and even showing on the insurance database as in-network. All good to go. Should all be covered, after co-pays, etc.

Three weeks after the procedure he gets like a $4500 direct out-of-network bill in the mail from the anesthesiologist. Oh, you see he's a doctor of our practice, and an in-network provider, but when he does anesthesia in the operating room, he actually works for Make You Go-Nite Nite Docs MD LLC and it's not covered by your insurance.


surprise!

Same thing happened during my surgery back last December. I sent the bill to Tricare and they told them to gently caress right off and offered 300 bucks for the services.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

MRC48B posted:

Is this a True Lies reference :negative:

Nah, sheep-dipping has been a term and thing for a long time before True Lies.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
My wife once got a bill from a hospital pathologist.

It was to cover tests they ran.

On her heart, kidneys, and liver.

To make sure they were okay to transplant.

That was definitely a surprise.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Maybe a bit of :pray: but Dominion and the other voting machine companies are considering suing right-wing trash TV into the ground for their repeated false claims, and some First Amendment lawyers seem to think they would have a pretty good case:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/20/business/media/smartmatic-lawsuit-fox-news-newsmax-oan.html

It's long, but the gist is that Fox News could probably survive it, but since Newsmax and OAN are already setting piles of money on fire trying to build viewership it could be the end of the line for them...and it would probably also threaten the likelihood of a Trump TV being created post-inaguration.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



nwin posted:

It’s loving stupid. Add to the fact that I work in government finance and the additional work and bullshit we have to deal with because we don’t get a full year’s appropriation loving sucks.

lol we haven't had a budget on time since 1996.

McNally posted:

My wife once got a bill from a hospital pathologist.

It was to cover tests they ran.

On her heart, kidneys, and liver.

To make sure they were okay to transplant.

That was definitely a surprise.

Good grief. How does that even get billed to the patient instead of going to overhead or donor services or whatever unit does the donation coordination?

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Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


McNally posted:

My wife once got a bill from a hospital pathologist.

It was to cover tests they ran.

On her heart, kidneys, and liver.

To make sure they were okay to transplant.

That was definitely a surprise.

merry christmas mcnally

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