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H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
on a self-sustaining homestead-style commune the only job would be "farmhand" because subsistence farming those ~4 acres per person is a full time job all by itself

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Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


my job is bodyguard for the agricultural engineer who comes to figure out why the commune isn't meeting grain quotas

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

Clark Nova posted:

lol I like their vision of a future where we’re all wearing rags but presumes easy access to a working espresso machine, milk and good arabica coffee

ive met people who sewed their own clothes and make coffee with a pot and an open flame. it's honestly the least stupid suggestion any of them made.

Fluoride Jones
Aug 24, 2009

toot toot
I'm gonna be the commune cop weewoo weewoo ur under arrest because venus is in pisces or some poo poo stop resisting

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

gh0stpinballa posted:

on episode 1 who plays the bounty hunter who is chasing dr yinz? he is also on the hacker episode with an un-postable hacker name, he cracks me up.

some east european visual artist they used to play world of warcraft with or some poo poo

I would not mind being a cook. Joke answer would be food critic.

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

on a self-sustaining homestead-style commune the only job would be "farmhand" because subsistence farming those ~4 acres per person is a full time job all by itself

most of them realize it’s easier to just grow weed and buy food with the proceeds lol

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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H.P. Hovercraft posted:

on a self-sustaining homestead-style commune the only job would be "farmhand" because subsistence farming those ~4 acres per person is a full time job all by itself

I've never gotten why self-sustaining communes were ever even an attempted thing given that Marx promoted collectivized farming because that sort of highly individualized farming was incredibly inefficient which is why France handing out all of it's former aristocratic farmland to individual farmers was a trap that would end with them all of the peasants falling into debt slavery trying to compete with large landholders. Collectivized industrial farming employing thousands was inevitable, the only question was who was going to reap the bounty.

Zedhe Khoja has issued a correction as of 00:11 on Dec 22, 2020

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Zedhe Khoja posted:

I've never gotten why self-sustaining communes were ever even an attempted thing given that Marx promoted collectivized farming because that sort of highly individualized farming was incredibly inefficient which is why France handing out all of it's farmland to individual farmers was a trap that would end with them falling into debt slavery trying too compete with large landholders. Collectivized industrial farming employing thousands was inevitable, the only question was who was going to reap the bounty.

those communes were around before and contemporaneously with marx, many in the US

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Lol at the Jets winning over LA yesterday. You'll know what I'm talking about after the latest Bad Faith.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
xpost

it was a method for weeding out the undesirables in both societies. I would say collective farming communes have been really successful in Israel, with the same goal

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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i say swears online posted:

those communes were around before and contemporaneously with marx, many in the US

well yeah I know, I mean the Marxist themed ones. Dipshit ideological settlements go back to archaic era Greece at least, and probably way before that.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

on a self-sustaining homestead-style commune the only job would be "farmhand" because subsistence farming those ~4 acres per person is a full time job all by itself

you do know tractors exist right.

(any good commune should be running aquaphonics)

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

I think the larger point is that, while self-sustaining agrarian communes are a romantic idea they can’t operate at the scale of a society without industrialization. sooner or later you have to answer the question “what about people in cities, the old and unable to work, people who live in inarable climates, etc?” At this point you need to either acknowledge that many will die, that your agrarian commune can only exist in an industrial-capitalist superstructure, or that your self-sufficient communes need to adopt industrial production methods to meet demand.

it’s sort of the hippie equivalent of those tech guys who think 3D printers will replace industrial manufacturing.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

In the commune, I'm going to be the guy making fun of the tweets about the jobs you'll be doing in the commune before I begin to sincerely reply with the jobs I would be doing in the commune

Her Dryer
Oct 15, 2012
In the commune, I can be your angle... or yuor devil

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

TheSlutPit posted:

I think the larger point is that, while self-sustaining agrarian communes are a romantic idea they can’t operate at the scale of a society without industrialization. sooner or later you have to answer the question “what about people in cities, the old and unable to work, people who live in inarable climates, etc?” At this point you need to either acknowledge that many will die, that your agrarian commune can only exist in an industrial-capitalist superstructure, or that your self-sufficient communes need to adopt industrial production methods to meet demand.

it’s sort of the hippie equivalent of those tech guys who think 3D printers will replace industrial manufacturing.

sounds like we need a bigger commune problem solved.

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

As the rain falls
On a cold and gray Eugene mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the commune
And his mama cries
'Cause if there's one thing that she don't need
It's another hungry mouth to feed
In the commune

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

everyone got commune brain because Stardew Valley just updated

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

https://twitter.com/v8mile/status/1340981674335727616?s=20

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Victory Position posted:

everyone got commune brain because Stardew Valley just updated

look bud, how hard can it be to go become a yeoman farmer? i'm making bank selling wine and mellondew berry juice while romancing my sexy commune waifu, ariel or robin. it's so easy

Xaris has issued a correction as of 01:48 on Dec 22, 2020

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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i can be the eggnog maker, cracked open the batch i made back in early summer to make sure I don't accidently poison all these turkish teachers I'm gonna have drink it without telling them how its made.
its so loving good. also a mug of it smashed my brains.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

TheSlutPit posted:

I think the larger point is that, while self-sustaining agrarian communes are a romantic idea they can’t operate at the scale of a society without industrialization. sooner or later you have to answer the question “what about people in cities, the old and unable to work, people who live in inarable climates, etc?” At this point you need to either acknowledge that many will die, that your agrarian commune can only exist in an industrial-capitalist superstructure, or that your self-sufficient communes need to adopt industrial production methods to meet demand.

it’s sort of the hippie equivalent of those tech guys who think 3D printers will replace industrial manufacturing.

fukk there goes my theory of socialism in one commune

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt3G_h749lE

virgil gonna get kicked out of DSA for endorsing Dem Cent

idk if virgil is even in DSA

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
but who will fulfill the role of commune leader with suspicious hold over sexual activity and weird lunar rites that coincide with local disappearances???

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
the only successful communes were the kibbutzim and now they only exist as corporations oddly enough

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dr. Killjoy posted:

but who will fulfill the role of commune leader with suspicious hold over sexual activity and weird lunar rites that coincide with local disappearances???

Forrest MacNeil, duh

Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.

Nothus posted:

Lol at the Jets winning over LA yesterday. You'll know what I'm talking about after the latest Bad Faith.

didn’t even give Justin a chance, 0 attempts.

chadbear
Jan 15, 2020

I'll be attending lovely endless commune meetings and making all the decisions at 5am because everybody else went home at 4am.

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

T-man posted:

(any good commune should be running aquaphonics)

for the last time, we don't need any more specialists in niche musical instruments

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt3G_h749lE

virgil gonna get kicked out of DSA for endorsing Dem Cent

idk if virgil is even in DSA

this is a good argument imo

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Atrocious Joe posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt3G_h749lE

virgil gonna get kicked out of DSA for endorsing Dem Cent

idk if virgil is even in DSA

i am pretty sure he is, and lol

we have to repeal that poo poo at the next convention

president xi, my name is doc and i am 9, please help liberate my organization, the dsa

the mean lunch lady
Jun 24, 2009

went mad at sea
lots were drawn
Kroenke didn't survive
he was delicious

Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:

didn’t even give Justin a chance, 0 attempts.

he's injured iirc, also wrong la team

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Chapo fans: "I hope Felix is working on a new documentary!" "When is This Is Sus coming back?" "I wonder what Felix's next pop culture/historical obsession will be!"

Felix: "I have spent the past six months developing a way to keep using my Catty Trump bit after Trump leaves office. Everyone hates it. This will be my sole contribution to the podcast for 2021."

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Felix is the podcaster whose mental health i worry about the second-most after Jeremy Hammond, who recently was able to touch his baby's skin with his own skin for the first time and uploaded a wordless montage of skaterxl footage to his youtube channel.

nick mullen's personal struggles might be somewhere between theirs but i always forget about him.

e: oh yeah, jeremy once uploaded a solo drunken new years message thanking listeners of ballin out for everything, that ended with him getting emotional and saying this is stupid, why am i doing this, etc, and stopping suddenly

Doc Hawkins has issued a correction as of 20:50 on Dec 22, 2020

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Gripweed posted:

Chapo fans: "I hope Felix is working on a new documentary!" "When is This Is Sus coming back?" "I wonder what Felix's next pop culture/historical obsession will be!"

Felix: "I have spent the past six months developing a way to keep using my Catty Trump bit after Trump leaves office. Everyone hates it. This will be my sole contribution to the podcast for 2021."

he did say on a non chapo pod he was on that he and matt are working on a project about TV

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

I don't know, I've always been interested in an outsider's retrospective of public television; ie. WTTW, WGBH, WNET et. all in regards to their work

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Felix is more mentally healthy and strong than Virgil who disappeared for like 6 months after Bernie lost and didn't talk to any of his friends.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Doc Hawkins posted:

Jeremy Thunder, who recently was able to touch his baby's skin with his own skin for the first time

What is he, Rogue the X-Mutant?

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth

Nanomashoes posted:

Felix is more mentally healthy and strong than Virgil who disappeared for like 6 months after Bernie lost and didn't talk to any of his friends.

one of them has to relate to their audience

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Fluoride Jones
Aug 24, 2009

toot toot

Nanomashoes posted:

Felix is more mentally healthy and strong than Virgil who disappeared for like 6 months after Bernie lost and didn't talk to any of his friends.

That's a clone, the real Virgil was executed at gitmo for being the most boringest person alive

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