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Troy Queef posted:https://twitter.com/singlepayertom/status/1334728884856606720?s=20 I mean, unless there's actual malfeasance, looks like it won't? And actual malfeasance is kind of an issue with anything so not really any change there. "Intersectional Solidarity in Praxis" is a kind of silly phrase but otherwise it's just earmarking funds for a targeted purpose. PostNouveau posted:Anyway, it's been really illuminating seeing community groups we thought were staunch allies get completely bought off. God that's frustrating.
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Yeah looking more into it is basically like a labor solidarity fund. Of course now i have mute "DSA is not the state" on twitter
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I haven’t really been involved for some months now but I’ve worked with this guy in DSA before and I respect where he’s coming from https://socialistramy.medium.com/seattle-dsa-debates-its-role-in-the-fight-for-reparations-f554d7c8155e
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Looking at it more they should have just called it a AFROSOC solidarity fund
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Tulip posted:God that's frustrating. Some of them haven't even been directly bought off. We're thinking they're just hoping to break off a piece of the slush fund for themselves or their other nonprofits once the slush fund is created. Complete subversion of democracy. The library is one of the few things in New Orleans that has a dedicated tax approved by voters to fund.
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PostNouveau posted:Our chapter is embroiled in a big-rear end fight with the entrenched powers over the mayor trying to raid the dedicated library millage (passed by voters) to create an "economic development" slush fund. They'll cut the libraries 40%, but they put like 20% of that money to early childhood education so they can pretend the change is for education. (It'll fund, not kidding, 100 private school vouchers.) Sadly it's been the norm in America for people to get involved in politics not because they have politics that they want to work to realize in the world but because they think of it as a career like any other that you enter by getting experience and doing things that will get you noticed by bosses. It's no different just because the brand people want to make is as a radical or an agitator or whatever--they're just building a brand and will always collaborate because they're hollow men who believe in nothing.
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Holy poo poo we won https://twitter.com/TheLensNOLA/status/1335439752464633859 Defeated the propositions and elected a reform DA. The local DSA chapter pretty much spun up the Save our Libraries campaign along with the hospitality workers union in like a month. Early votes were 52-48 yes and final results 57-43 no. Gonna call the campaign that difference.
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PostNouveau posted:Holy poo poo we won hell yeah, congrats!
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 that the lovely twitch streamer is all red and nude that he can't work with Metro Atlanta DSA because they have the whereforall to not work with fake leftists.
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searching the timelines of their big defenders for stuff like BLM is also a pretty good time and all the evidence you need that they were right to politely decline
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wait til you realize that they didnt even know that until after they turned him down for trying to organize a covid spreading event 
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https://twitter.com/AchillesF6/status/1336358142528151554 The next respoance to that guy was "Yeah whoever designed that the DSA should fire" I'm sorry that Soviet Agitprop is some much better for striking imagery
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The Soviets did a lot of great art but that aint an example of it
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Golden Bee posted:The Soviets did a lot of great art but that aint an example of it I mostly use Space Race stuff because it looks rad and cool/stylish
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https://twitter.com/pghDSA/status/1338659079405891584 Hope this ends up successful for us Also if folks want to buy shirts from us our merch store has been live on https://store.pghdsa.org
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We have some candidates for a municipal election next year seeking our endorsement, and they're all sharing a single campaign manager, and that staffer was run out of this city's immigration organizing world for busting a union at the nonprofit she ran, and a bunch of our members from that municipality are real upset with some of our labor people for taking union busting seriously and questioning the candidates about it!!! They're probably gonna try to split off into their own microchapter so they can endorse whoever they want!!!! Candidates were sniping at questioners in the zoom chat during a candidate forum!!!!!! love to be on the left!!!!
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Internet Explorer posted:Interesting news. i'm of the opinion that this is a very good thing. DSA, as a big tent organization, is perhaps the best place for a broad leftist movement to organize together, and more of the left joining in to work together is good.
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quote:Socialist Alternative members are not planning to join DSA “en masse,” largely because of the contribution we can continue to make to the socialist movement with our independent work. Also, we don’t think it would facilitate deeper collaboration if more than 1,000 Socialist Alternative members immediately joined DSA’s meetings and debates. This would likely lead to unnecessary tensions and conflict which we don’t want, distracting from the key political issues that need discussion. Instead, a few dozen Socialist Alternative members will be joining DSA across the country to work together to build the socialist movement. im sure this will go great
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bedpan posted:did the DSA endorse biden? worse. they endorsed bernie.
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They should join en masse because we need to ensure we have plenty of radicalsbedpan posted:did the DSA endorse biden? Nope, apparently it was quite a heated debate tho, I dunno I dont read those forums. I personally think anybody who spoke in favor of endorsing Biden should be kicked out of the org They can join the communist party USA which not only endorsed Biden but maintain that communists should continue to support him. Not sure if you need to be in the FOP to join still
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bedpan posted:did the DSA endorse biden? fermun posted:i'm of the opinion that this is a very good thing. DSA, as a big tent organization, is perhaps the best place for a broad leftist movement to organize together, and more of the left joining in to work together is good. Honestly wonder what is going to happen to PSL since it looks like they are going down the ISO path. What is it with the US left and being unable to get rid of sex pests/abusers in their org? Speaking from experience it's not that hard to kick those kind of people out.
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It's far from a US exclusive problem. As for kicking out sex pests in something like the DSA, I recommend you dont go patting your back too hard there. It's not like sexual predators all wear bright red badges or something. You might well be interacting with one in your organization on a regular basis without realizing it. If so, you probably even think they're a stand up type. A naturally manipulative person, the sort of person who becomes a high profile sex predator, is likely to 1. have the know-how in order to make the right friendships and say the right things and demonstrate enough commitment to become a trusted person, and 2. they are likely to choose their victims carefully in terms of selecting people who are able to be manipulated into silence, or even thinking that abuse or outright coercion somehow are either their fault, or should be overlooked. The more insular the dynamics of an organization, the more marginal its politics, the more protective its members will be of its goal as increasingly unreasonable cost. This is true for the bystanders, the perpetrator, and tragically, even the victim. This is not to say it is the fault of the victims for being manipulated, but it is a grim reality of interpersonal dynamics that it ends up working out like this.
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Mr. Lobe posted:It's far from a US exclusive problem. As for kicking out sex pests in something like the DSA, I recommend you dont go patting your back too hard there. It's not like sexual predators all wear bright red badges or something. You might well be interacting with one in your organization on a regular basis without realizing it. If so, you probably even think they're a stand up type. https://twitter.com/birblawl/status/1339209391053139973 Philly doing Philly things (from the brilliant mind that went "We need to raise cop wages, then they'll stop being racist!") achillesforever6 has issued a correction as of 17:30 on Dec 16, 2020 |
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Mr. Lobe posted:It's far from a US exclusive problem. As for kicking out sex pests in something like the DSA, I recommend you dont go patting your back too hard there. It's not like sexual predators all wear bright red badges or something. wait, what color is the dsa badge then
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achillesforever6 posted:Honestly wonder what is going to happen to PSL since it looks like they are going down the ISO path. What is it with the US left and being unable to get rid of sex pests/abusers in their org? Speaking from experience it's not that hard to kick those kind of people out. What did this person actually do? Based on what I've read from the statements, he cheated on his partner, which is bad but isn't rape. And he's been suspended. I've read through a lot of the stuff on Twitter and it seems like mostly a bunch of anarchists and maoists jumping at the opportunity to assume the worst. elephants on acid has issued a correction as of 17:28 on Dec 17, 2020 |
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elephants on acid posted:What did this person actually do? Based on what I've read from the statements, he cheated on his partner, which is bad but isn't rape. And he's been suspended. I've read through a lot of the stuff on Twitter and it seems like mostly a bunch of anarchists and maoists jumping at the opportunity to assume the worst.
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sounds like a cool guy. like a real piece of poo poo, but, also not a sex criminal. if that blog is even half true the guy should have been kicked out for being an rear end in a top hat first and foremost. but also wtf i dont want anyone to ever tell someone they think im manic lol. just say im being emotional.
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elephants on acid posted:yeah I agree. they should have just booted him because he’s clearly both an rear end in a top hat not worthy of leading a revolutionary party and also a liability. but people on twitter calling for PSL to be ostracized (or physically attacked even??) is a wild stretch. twitter is such a poor medium for hashing these things out. https://twitter.com/JakeSymbol/status/1341039611703926790
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if you think that's good: https://twitter.com/comradealexia/status/1341130942946000897?s=20 We don't monitor likes. Also I'm recording the names of my followers who are liking this tweet. Party for Spooks and Law Enforcement
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