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a while back i started only being able to access websites on a certain server via http. like, just happened out of the loving blue. it's not a super crucial service, so no one higher up has really put any resources into figuring out what the hell is going on, but I keep coming back to the issue to try and sort it out. valid CA cert with a private key is bound to 443, and doing a port check shows that its status is "established" but still no secure connection to applications hosted there. e: to confirm, i can hit the IIS splash screen over http, but not https.
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Dec 18, 2020 14:28
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check your server event logs for schannel errors that would indicate tls negotiation fuckups
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Dec 20, 2020 16:49
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President Beep posted:e: to confirm, i can hit the IIS splash screen over http, but not https. if its public facing does sslshopper tell you anything? https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html
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Dec 20, 2020 18:34
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WilWheaton posted:is there a real reason this is using IIS? there’s an esri web adapter on the server that uses IIS. is that uncommon? thought you had to use that tool for certificate binding as well. this isn’t really my area of practice but I’m trying to understand it nonetheless.
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Dec 20, 2020 18:37
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Captain Foo posted:check your server event logs for schannel errors that would indicate tls negotiation fuckups I’ll peek at this, thanks. had vendor support on the line friday and he noted that for some reason the identity server on the machine in question can’t be reached because the certificate/private key isn’t accessible during log in requests. luckily he gave me a write up to just pass onto my boss, as I’m sure I can’t convey everything adequately. sounds like there’s something fundamentally hosed up on the server.
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Dec 20, 2020 18:45
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hey how can you tell in windows if programs are running out of memory, or more correctly, losing performance due to lack of memory? page faults delta?
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Dec 20, 2020 19:04
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echinopsis posted:hey how can you tell in windows if programs are running out of memory, or more correctly, losing performance due to lack of memory? I've wondered about that too. In the old days I could tell because my old rear end hard drive would start grinding like hell when i ran out of ram and it had to start using virtual memory, but now that I have an SSD I have no idea when this happens aside from (presumably) framerate drops
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Dec 20, 2020 19:38
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i was remembering that not even that long ago I would leave my computer rendering all night for a single frame and now i get pissed off if they’re not done in 2 minutes and along with that has been unabashed use of resources and what used to feel like a lot of ram 32gb i’m now wondering if it’s not usage gets up around 29gb and stays there. i can’t help but feel that it’s use more if I had it suppose there’s only one thing to do - buy more ramb
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Dec 20, 2020 19:55
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echinopsis posted:i was remembering that not even that long ago I would leave my computer rendering all night for a single frame and now i get pissed off if they’re not done in 2 minutes and along with that has been unabashed use of resources and what used to feel like a lot of ram 32gb i’m now wondering if it’s not you can use task manager to view processes and memory usage right click the task bar, click task manager, then more details, then look at the processes tab
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Dec 20, 2020 20:01
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oh yes, but that doesn’t really tell me if a program “wants” to use more memory i used to think a page fault was when i program forced the operating system to use the page file and that’s a sign of running out of memory, but idk anymore suppose i could always turn off the pagefile
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Dec 20, 2020 20:11
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programs might get mad when they m’alloc and the operating system comes back with “um we’re just friends”
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Dec 20, 2020 20:12
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echinopsis posted:programs might get mad when they m’alloc and the operating system comes back with “um we’re just friends” incel inside
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Dec 20, 2020 20:24
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President Beep posted:there’s an esri web adapter on the server that uses IIS. is that uncommon? thought you had to use that tool for certificate binding as well. nah, just iis can be microsoft jank that can be avoided sometimes I was being a smartass
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Dec 21, 2020 00:07
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echinopsis posted:programs might get mad when they m’alloc and the operating system comes back with “um we’re just friends”
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Dec 21, 2020 00:24
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WilWheaton posted:nah, just iis can be microsoft jank that can be avoided sometimes lol. please understand that i am as a childe in this situation.
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Dec 21, 2020 00:25
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Gentle Autist posted:it’s the single biggest improvement in computers in my lifetime op (except maybe high speed internets) (i’m almost 40) (one love) man, i still remember going from 28.8k to cable. I don't even think SSDs were that much of a difference.
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Dec 21, 2020 09:20
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President Beep posted:incel inside lol
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Dec 21, 2020 11:08
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echinopsis posted:oh yes, but that doesn’t really tell me if a program “wants” to use more memory page fault means that the data wasn’t in memory (or cache) when it was looked for, meaning that it’s gotta go be found cache to memory is slow memory to disk is really slow better with ssd, but still really slow
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Dec 22, 2020 16:04
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hard page fault is the bad one where it has to go to a page file, a normal page fault is just something that happens and is more an indicator that memory is actively being used in the process
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Dec 22, 2020 16:12
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:hard page fault is the bad one where it has to go to a page file, a normal page fault is just something that happens and is more an indicator that memory is actively being used in the process yeah
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Dec 22, 2020 18:22
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ok.. so.. is there a good measure that a program wants to use more memory but is running out?
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Dec 22, 2020 18:57
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echinopsis posted:ok.. so.. is there a good measure that a program wants to use more memory but is running out? if it slows down, op
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Dec 22, 2020 18:58
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echinopsis posted:ok.. so.. is there a good measure that a program wants to use more memory but is running out? “memory pressure” is the term for when the system as a whole is running out of memory
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Dec 22, 2020 19:37
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lol “she’s about to blow captain”
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Dec 22, 2020 20:12
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Some poo poo like chrome will just use as much ram as possible in the hope that it will make something faster. Really hard to tell how much a program "needs" unless it provides that function specifically
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Dec 22, 2020 22:06
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well .. that barely helps. well actually nah it completely helps because it tells me what I need to know. thanks
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Dec 22, 2020 22:16
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bobbilljim posted:Some poo poo like chrome will just use as much ram as possible in the hope that it will make something faster. Really hard to tell how much a program "needs" unless it provides that function specifically yeah and some things like various sql servers will lock in the amount of memory they “use” to the system and then manage their own memory
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Dec 23, 2020 14:16
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echinopsis posted:ok.. so.. is there a good measure that a program wants to use more memory but is running out? application performance is the overall indicator, so if you have some way of tracking that (like sql perf counters for avg query time etc) its best to get a baseline of what your expected performance is and if something is bogging down. hard page faults are the one that will really grind everything to a halt, so if you're seeing those you need more memory (either to the OS as a whole or possibly to a specific process if its capping its physical ram usage or something like that), but everything is more complicated with the massive layers of caching that have been introduced both by the OS and often in the application framework (.net, java, whatever) which will attempt to cache as much of the filesystem that is likely to be touched as possible. sometimes this amounts to jack-poo poo in increased performance, other times it makes a massive difference and even basic memory pressure causing those caches to evaporate will slow things down. Its 100% dependent on the specific application you are working with, there are few hard and fast rules here because the program could be doing almost anything under the hood
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Dec 23, 2020 15:30
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thanks ... suppose I just wont really know unless I get more ram and figure out that its faster ya know tho whats pissing me off? i have 32gb ddr4 ram. a 24 thread 3-4ghz processoir and m2 ssd and right clicking on a icon in explorer in windows still takes a second its like windows dumps everything after each time. I think its related to some of the things have loaded like winrar etc, but drat, cant windows just hold a few things in memory?
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Dec 24, 2020 09:43
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the xbox controller I've been using as a PC controller for 100 years finally broke. is anything even comparable to how easy to use and good-shaped the xbox 360 controller is for pc gaming? i'd like to replace it with something newer but I don't know how to filter the wheat from the chaff of controller options because i've been out of the game for way too long
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Dec 28, 2020 23:18
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Corla Plankun posted:the xbox controller I've been using as a PC controller for 100 years finally broke. is anything even comparable to how easy to use and good-shaped the xbox 360 controller is for pc gaming? i'd like to replace it with something newer but I don't know how to filter the wheat from the chaff of controller options because i've been out of the game for way too long buy something from 8bitdo. i tried a knockoff controller for $25 and it was garbage that didn't work with mac, pc or a pi, then i paid $40 for an 8bitdo snes style controller and it has worked perfectly with everything.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:20
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just get an xbox one controller. windows understands it natively, the new ones do bluethooth so you don't even need a receiver, and they're better than 360 controllers because they have a real d-pad.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:23
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Corla Plankun posted:the xbox controller I've been using as a PC controller for 100 years finally broke. is anything even comparable to how easy to use and good-shaped the xbox 360 controller is for pc gaming? i'd like to replace it with something newer but I don't know how to filter the wheat from the chaff of controller options because i've been out of the game for way too long Supposedly the steam controller is pretty good, but I haven't tried it because I also use a 360 controller.
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Dec 28, 2020 23:25
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xbone controller is the best current gamepad
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Dec 29, 2020 00:29
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echinopsis posted:and right clicking on a icon in explorer in windows still takes a second you have too much / broken poo poo in your explorer. try something from here https://superuser.com/questions/286000/how-to-list-explorer-extensions-and-disable-them also get rid of winrar it's 2020
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Dec 29, 2020 08:43
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Shaggar posted:xbone controller is the best current gamepad
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Dec 29, 2020 09:00
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bobbilljim posted:also get rid of winrar it's 2020 I used 7zip for years and it SUCKS what other tool can I install that works for all archives and actually works better than winrar?
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Dec 29, 2020 09:09
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bobbilljim posted:you have too much / broken poo poo in your explorer. try something from here https://superuser.com/questions/286000/how-to-list-explorer-extensions-and-disable-them ive been using autoruns for a long time friend it solves some problems but not very well and not very clearly. there are some things I still want in my context menu. the problem is that even if it was bad its not a complex task. it still shouldnt require so much time. especially if I do it and then do it again. windows is clearly flushing caches or not keeping poo poo in cache that it could simply put.. steve ballmer smells
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Dec 29, 2020 09:12
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actually that links show some programs that may be more helpful than autoruns.exe ill give then a shot
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I got a used ds4 off ebay cheap and it was a pretty good set up from the xbone360 one I was using
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