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I wonder how many chuds are pissed off that their Christmas packages may be late while simultaneously failing to realize it was their Dear Leader who defunded the Postal Service in an attempt to stop mail-in ballots.
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Dec 23, 2020 17:08
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CBJSprague24 posted:I wonder how many chuds are pissed off that their Christmas packages may be late while simultaneously failing to realize it was their Dear Leader who defunded the Postal Service in an attempt to stop mail-in ballots. all of them
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Dec 23, 2020 17:12
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Platystemon posted:Even if means testing was good and America had a unimpeachable system for doing it prior to the pandemic (lol), there wouldn’t be enough clerks to process the deluge of legitimate claims. The scale of distress is too much. The payments are already means tested based on previous year AGI. TCD posted:It helps out some of those who had an adult wanting to return to the workforce only to find hiring pretty grim right now. Because my wife voluntarily left the workforce prior to the pandemic (having a kid) she doesn't qualify for any of the unemployment assistance. I get that there are other cases, but it just seems to make more sense to replace income for people who lost it or saw it decline. Unemployment tends to be less than peoples' pay, meanwhile families who haven't been financially impacted get the same payment as everyone else. I like the idea of UBI in general, but the stimulus as written gives the same amount of money to an hourly worker who has had their income go way down as it does to a software engineer whose only burden is logging onto VPN. How does that make sense?
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Dec 23, 2020 18:30
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As someone who spent the last year unemployed but also not qualified for unemployment benefits which lawmakers genitalia have I got to apply my mouth to to get some motherfucking money?
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Dec 23, 2020 18:30
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I'm really looking for happier things, so here appears to be one: https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1341794454550814730?s=19 The Judge is literally saying "ok, we'll start the briefings once you serve the Electoral College and provide proof. Good luck!"
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Dec 23, 2020 18:31
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Frantically searching for Electoral College Landscaping
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Dec 23, 2020 18:35
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:As someone who spent the last year unemployed but also not qualified for unemployment benefits which lawmakers genitalia have I got to apply my mouth to to get some motherfucking money? 
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Dec 23, 2020 18:45
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facialimpediment posted:I'm really looking for happier things, so here appears to be one: I mentioned this stuff to my boss this morning and he went full on  for a moment.
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Dec 23, 2020 18:54
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Mr. Nice! posted:I mentioned this stuff to my boss this morning and he went full on Actually a question for your legal brain: https://twitter.com/RamCNN/status/1341804240713465863?s=19 I interpret this as "here comes the pain". The legal voices I'm hearing from basically say that Dominion has a serious, no-bullshit defamation claim in a world where almost all defamation claims are bullshit. That about right?
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Dec 23, 2020 19:04
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:The payments are already means tested based on previous year AGI. If you don’t need the money, just donate it to the local food bank. That’s what lots of software devs in my circle have done. Adding more steps to the rollout of the stimulus slows things down and hurts those who need it most.
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Dec 23, 2020 19:16
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facialimpediment posted:Actually a question for your legal brain: When you sell voting machines and someone claims your machine is not only defective but intentionally so in order to undermine democratic processes then yeah, you have a solid claim
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Dec 23, 2020 19:22
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:I get that there are other cases, but it just seems to make more sense to replace income for people who lost it or saw it decline. Unemployment tends to be less than peoples' pay, meanwhile families who haven't been financially impacted get the same payment as everyone else. A few of the problems with extending unemployment benefits: -Stimulus checks don't require you to prove to a bureaucrat that you qualify for the benefit -UI money doesn't help those who never properly entered the workforce. If you entered the labor force in 2019 or 2020 but either never got a job before everything went to poo poo or had some basic contractor work, RIP your UI eligibility -Independent contractors. Most states do not give UI benefits for that. CARES act gave states that option, but did not mandate it -Not so tangible: Just easier to sell to people and easier to explain. Now, most nations that already have more robust social welfare and safety nets used unemployment as their means for distributing stimulus and relief. But those nations already have more robust social welfare and safety nets! If you're really concerned with giving money to people who have jobs, just ensure stimulus money is taxable. If someone was making 100K already and got 2K in stimulus, at least they're paying 22% of that stimulus back to the IRS. If someone else was making little to nothing, not so much!
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Dec 23, 2020 19:28
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This is probably also Dominion's last chance to make any money after this cause their reputation is going to be ruined no matter what happens. They need to change names or dissolve or whatever after this cause no one is going to be using them again after this
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Dec 23, 2020 19:30
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Hot Karl Marx posted:This is probably also Dominion's last chance to make any money after this cause their reputation is going to be ruined no matter what happens. They need to change names or dissolve or whatever after this cause no one is going to be using them again after this Those issues and their related expenses will undoubtedly be included in the assessment of damages that Dominion has faced as a result of this disinformation campaign, along with resulting costs for security needs and potentially even lobbying efforts / rebranding expenses. It'll be interesting to see what exactly they allege as the resulting damage from these conspiracy allegations. Considering how many states use their machines it's probably going to be pretty hefty
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Dec 23, 2020 19:36
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Hekk posted:If you don’t need the money, just donate it to the local food bank. That’s what lots of software devs in my circle have done. Personally, I don't need it but my wife and I both work in nonprofit and so things are always tenuous. Having the extra free Trump Bux made us a lot more comfortable getting takeout from local restaurants during this. Putting it back into the local economy.
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Dec 23, 2020 19:41
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mlmp08 posted:A few of the problems with extending unemployment benefits: I can say from personal experience trying to get unemployment money out of Arizona is like getting loving blood from a stone.
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Dec 23, 2020 19:49
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Mlillions have either taken massive pay cuts or lost a job and taken a much less well paying one.
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Dec 23, 2020 19:50
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Hekk posted:If you don’t need the money, just donate it to the local food bank. That’s what lots of software devs in my circle have done. Splitting this one 50/50 between the local food bank and donating to the GA senate campaigns.
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Dec 23, 2020 19:52
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facialimpediment posted:Actually a question for your legal brain: My esteemed colleague has already responded, but let me add a little bit. Newsmax and Fox News both put segments on the air in response to the C&D letter debunking each and every dominion/smartmatic conspiracy theory. These software companies have as close to a slam dunk defamation case as possible.
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Dec 23, 2020 19:53
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Extremely cursed take: giving stimulus money to those who are still employed might help them afford the legal work to evict their tenant(s)
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Dec 23, 2020 19:56
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Mr. Nice! posted:My esteemed colleague has already responded, but let me add a little bit. Newsmax and Fox News both put segments on the air in response to the C&D letter debunking each and every dominion/smartmatic conspiracy theory. Hilariously, OANN has not gotten the message, hope they enjoy the lawsuit.
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Dec 23, 2020 20:03
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CommieGIR posted:Hilariously, OANN has not gotten the message, hope they enjoy the lawsuit. Has anybody said “OANNism” yet?
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Dec 23, 2020 20:13
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mlmp08 posted:Extremely cursed take: giving stimulus money to those who are still employed might help them afford the legal work to evict their tenant(s) Depending on how their rental operations are structured, many landlords already had access to bundles through the PPP, potentially. Evicting a tenant is typically a discount affair as is - in many jurisdictions you'll have the same pissant baby attorney filing and managing dozens of cases a day because people.facing eviction can't afford representation and don't know what their rights are or the procedural requirements for the eviction process. Anecdotal but a friend of mine who worked for a housing clinic managed to stave of an eviction for over a year due to procedural issues with the case. It's absolutely an area where people desperately need legal representation because of how specific the laws are to different jurisdictions. Boulder just passed an ordinance granting indigent representation to residents facing eviction. Hopefully it catches on elsewhere, fast.
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Dec 23, 2020 20:15
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Frantically searching for Electoral College Landscaping  Proud Christian Mom posted:Mlillions have either taken massive pay cuts or lost a job and taken a much less well paying one. But enough about 21st century job creation...
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Dec 23, 2020 20:23
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Dec 23, 2020 20:50
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So Rudy is just turning even more so into Lionel Hutz
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Dec 23, 2020 20:54
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Nick Soapdish posted:So Rudy is just turning even more so into Lionel Hutz Unfortunately with none of the Phil Hartman voice work.
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Dec 23, 2020 20:57
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Mr. Nice! posted:Rudytweet He posted that tweet right before it came out that SDNY already have a lot of his emails, because emails go two ways. https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1341513648540401668?s=19
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Dec 23, 2020 20:57
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facialimpediment posted:Actually a question for your legal brain: Anyone else wondering if they sue Trump himself as well January 21st?
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Dec 23, 2020 21:14
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https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1341839584125173761?s=19 https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/1341839588462047233?s=19 He ain't letting go of the nonsense yet.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:16
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So is that the defense budget or something? Has a president every vetoed something like this before?
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Dec 23, 2020 21:21
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Hot Karl Marx posted:So is that the defense budget or something? Has a president every vetoed something like this before? It's like the sixth time since 1961
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Dec 23, 2020 21:29
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https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1341843088273248258?s=19 https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1341843479962521602?s=19 https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1341844513950740480?s=19 If only people's lives didn't hang in the balance of all this dumb poo poo, I'd be laughing my balls off. Override votes next week!
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Dec 23, 2020 21:34
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2020 is the stupidest year on record and with just days left on the clock it is determined to run up the score
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Dec 23, 2020 21:41
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I still don’t think an override is guaranteed but I’m ready to enjoy the show
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Dec 23, 2020 21:44
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https://twitter.com/Eugene_Scott/status/1341358952832000001McNally posted:It's like the sixth time since 1961 hmm, obama even did it in 2015
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Dec 23, 2020 21:47
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://twitter.com/Eugene_Scott/status/1341358952832000001 There's some reddit post that floats around in the gbs trump thread from a guy who apparently lives somewhere deep red that pretty much says "mask wearing is perceived as a sign of weakness" in those areas, so I guess that tracks.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:54
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So masculine they have crystal charging sessions with their best buds
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Dec 23, 2020 21:57
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California is doing worse right now than NY was back in the early months of the pandemic. So what do we do? Well gently caress you no lock downs we have celebs running maskless caroling! https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/entertainment/kirk-cameron-protests/index.html quote:Actor Kirk Cameron is facing criticism for organizing at least two events in Southern California in recent weeks, where dozens of mask-less people stood shoulder-to-shoulder to sing Christmas carols in protest of state and local stay-at-home mandates. CA has a lot of lockdowns right now, my county started a new one a while back that lasts till the 6th. ICU beds in the state are full. There isn't even enough traveler nurses to fill slots and we are asking for nurses from other countries. But ya gently caress it lets protest the lockdowns.
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1341843088273248258?s=19 Those leopards can't help themselves once they start going to town on all those delicious faces 
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