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F1 really could use 1-2 more teams. Bezos go do something with your unholy amount of money.
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Zedd posted:F1 really could use 1-2 more teams. Bezos go do something with your unholy amount of money. Amazon prime, but your parcel is delivered by Grosjean crashing through your house in a blast of hellfire.
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Theophany posted:Amazon prime, but your parcel is delivered by Grosjean crashing through your house in a blast of hellfire. GRO YEEEEAAAHHH
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Theophany posted:Amazon prime, but your parcel is delivered by Grosjean crashing through your house in a blast of hellfire. I live on the 4th floor and the 1st floor people are old anyway, Sure why not.
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everyone who wants to use an incredibly cringe rivals pun itt should provide evidence of using it in a reply/quote/tagged social media post to the driver they're talking about or be shamed as a coward
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Theophany posted:It's the circle of F1. The plucky young upstarts have at best a couple of seasons before they become garbage assholes that are part of the corporate machinery. The last example before Haas were Red Bull, the likes of HRT, Caterham and Marussia didn't survive long enough. 
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Vando posted:everyone who wants to use an incredibly cringe rivals pun itt should provide evidence of using it in a reply/quote/tagged social media post to the driver they're talking about or be shamed as a coward are you fuckin telling me this thread has progressed beyong rivals puns???? gently caress you
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honestly if "cringe" is acceptable but "meatspin" isnt just close the fuckin thread already
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Vando posted:everyone who wants to use an incredibly cringe rivals pun itt should provide evidence of using it in a reply/quote/tagged social media post to the driver they're talking about or be shamed as a coward lol you just want everyone's twitter names
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Zedd posted:F1 really could use 1-2 more teams. Bezos go do something with your unholy amount of money. Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Dec 24, 2020 00:51
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OhsH posted:honestly if "cringe" is acceptable but "meatspin" isnt just close the fuckin thread already and dont make a new one for the actual races fuckin christ
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Dec 24, 2020 00:54
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I will accept maxspin as an alternative just so discussion of the races are confusing as to whether people are referring to the driver or the action
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OhsH posted:and dont make a new one for the actual races if you post cringe you are going to lose subscriber
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track day bro! posted:if you post cringe you are going to lose subscriber cringe day bro!
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This thread has as much chance of making it through the offseason as Ferrari does of winning a WCC in the next 20 years.
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ireally like this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDJIZkZ7L3I
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Finished watching the 81 Grand Prix championship. It's clear that Prost was a rising star at this point. Mired by reliability issues and veering Nigel Mansells in his path, but someone who reliably performed well when outside circumstances didn't steal that from him. Reliability is a huge factor in these races. There was something of a running gag in the image of Riccardo Patrese entering the pits to retire, or a Ferrari spouting flame from its turbos. It's no surprise to see the Williams team as the runaway winners of the constructors championship, if only because both of their cars finished more often than not where their main competition each had at least one car that retired more races than it finished. Gilles Villeneuve impressed. The few races his Ferrari let him finish were fought on bravery, taming the overpowered and wayward handling machine over circuits that often didn't advantage these things at all. Notably Monaco and a drenched Montreal circuit. At Montreal he took third place after driving with his front nosecone bent over backwards such that the mangled wing covered his eyes. Knowing what lies in his future for the 82 season is somewhat painful given that man's evident insanity and entertainment value. I didn't get to watch the long career that the retiring driver Alan Jones had before this season, but his maneuvering in what was often a disadvantaged machine convinced me he must have been fantastic. His overtake at Hockenheim was astounding. Not to say that Piquet didn't deserve his championship win, but the fact he drove a machine that capitalised on a rules loophole always casts a shadow on his performance. He crashed out many times in the season, but perhaps the fact he clawed his way to the top spot in spite of this says something for his skill. Safety is nonexistent, and watching this with modern sensibilities is sometimes an uncomfortable experience. An ambulance drove across the circuit mid race at Silverstone, causing a driver to slam on the brakes. A mechanic got crushed between two arrows cars at Zolder. Numerous drivers limped from their cars across the whole season from front end collisions. Not least Patrick Tambay whose Talbot peeled away like a banana skin at Caesar's Palace, leaving his legs exposed out of the front of the car. He was lucky to be able to hop away. The willingness to leave cars and oil spills on the track so long as they were off the racing line is something I expect to see go sour in the future. I'm not too knowledgeable on the history of F1 or aware of any specific incident, but surely it stands to reason that another car may well end up where the cars, debris and oil spills ended up, on the basis that these things ended up there in the first place. I think if I was watching at the time I'd have found myself supporting Gilles for a while. I'm not a Ferrari fan by any means but I found myself egging them on toward the middle of the championship. I got the sense that the Williams team were a dominant force in the sport who needed to be taken down a peg. Brabham ultimately delivered on that, but did so in a way that leaves a bitter taste. There was a period in the middle of the championship where Ferrari had visibly upped the power on its turbos and Villeneuve was powering his way to wins through sheer madness, and there's something about the spirit of that balls to the wall machine that I admired. Next season will surely be the swan song of the Cosworth V8s and possibly the V12s. The turbos have shown that they pack a punch for their weight, and Renault was able to use that to score some fantastic victories. Any constructor with the money must surely be looking at that and seeing the future. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Azza Bamboo posted:I didn't get to watch the long career that the retiring driver Alan Jones had before this season, but his maneuvering in what was often a disadvantaged machine convinced me he must have been fantastic. His overtake at Hockenheim was astounding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f015MaNaA9M Worth a rewatch. And then they got Keke who wrestled the hell out of that Williams too. '82 is fun, enjoy!
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If you want a good inside view on Williams in 1981 you can't go wrong with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS4pejg43Ug It's got a few seconds chopped off the end, but it's just Alan complaining about Ferrari. E: Don't miss '83 either. It's a cracker of a season, and tests the -downforce theory with the fact the cars lost around 80% (according to Frank Dernie in a few sources) with the flat bottom rule. And do keep going. The transition into the turbo composite chassis era is fascinating. The safety things you mention didn't really get better, the cars just happened to get much stronger as a happy accident. I never saw a safety car before 1993, but my memory isn't what It used to be. Sulman fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Gilles by all accounts was a nice dude but he was loving insane.
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Zeta Acosta posted:Gilles by all accounts was a nice dude but he was loving insane. What went on with Pironi is difficult to understand, and it afflicted them both equally, with awful results.
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Frank Dernie is brilliant but also loving insane.
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Rebus can you confirm whether Dernie still adamantly maintains mechanical grip does not in fact exist and all grip comes purely from downforce?
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the corona quid posted:Rebus can you confirm whether Dernie still adamantly maintains mechanical grip does not in fact exist and all grip comes purely from downforce? I know the interview to which you're referring. I'll just say this: I would not want to debate kinematics with Dernie. Maybe the phrasing sounds odd but the point he's making is sound. If it wasn't then touring cars, motorbikes, and karts would have seen performance increases well in excess of what the tires developed over the last few decades. The only lateral load increases have come from aero. It's the same reason they're mucking about with aero in MotoGP.
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Hello, foreigners! On Christmas Day, we are bringing Winter Heat to the SASCAR Discord! We'll be simulwatching the 2020 World Figure 8 Championship 3-Hour Enduro race. The first hour will be a one-hour pre-show featuring various Winter Heat favorite races, followed by the 4-hour replay of the live broadcast. Festivities will start at 11 a.m Pacific / 2 p.m. Eastern / 7 p.m. GMT on December 25. Chat will be in the new #winterheat channel. You will need to be on Discord desktop to join the live stream. It's 5 hours if you want to watch the whole thing, which you probably will because it is Christmas and there's Covid so you are probably alone and miserable.  So cheer up by watching some batshit crazy racing!  See this post for more info. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3874931&pagenumber=3#post510988516
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I disapprove so many are wasting energy on this Meatzipan guy. What will be will be.
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Sulman posted:What went on with Pironi is difficult to understand, and it afflicted them both equally, with awful results. on track i mean, 82 was a nightmare year for ferrari
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Zeta Acosta posted:on track i mean, 82 was a nightmare year for ferrari I remember this video interview Pironi did with Walker in 1983, one year after his life-changing accident at the same venue. It's sobering watching someone realise simultaneously that their life has changed and they may never get back what they once had. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxL2y0QTt0k
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Sulman posted:I know the interview to which you're referring. I'll just say this: I would not want to debate kinematics with Dernie. Maybe the phrasing sounds odd but the point he's making is sound. If it wasn't then touring cars, motorbikes, and karts would have seen performance increases well in excess of what the tires developed over the last few decades. The only lateral load increases have come from aero. It's the same reason they're mucking about with aero in MotoGP. Saying that the only lateral load increases can come from aero is the second most idiotic thing I’ve read today and the first thing was by you as well lmao.
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I guess it’s just a big dumb mystery that Ducati, the absolute undisputed leader in MotoGP aerodynamics, has retained poo poo cornering speeds compared to all the other manufacturers other than Shitprilia. There’s definitely nothing else at play there that would have an impact on grip like the frame which Ducati management has acknowledged that they lag behind the Japanese manufacturers on 🤔
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the corona quid posted:Saying that the only lateral load increases can come from aero is the second most idiotic thing I’ve read today and the first thing was by you as well lmao. Do you have a competing hypothesis or are you just going to continue sucking your own dick? Don't worry about answering, I won't see it. Sulman fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Sulman posted:Do you have a competing hypothesis or are you just going to continue sucking your own dick? Scroll right below that post my friend 😘
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Theophany posted:The only real good guys in F1 are Ferrari. Good, honest, not sexually aggressive lads who mean well and don't cheat. You do know they're Italians, right?
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the corona quid posted:Rebus can you confirm whether Dernie still adamantly maintains mechanical grip does not in fact exist and all grip comes purely from downforce? Never met him, think I once saw him in the office a couple of years ago. Similarly I once saw Patrick Head but it could easily also have been Meatloaf.
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Gravity is downforce so he's right
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Dictator. posted:You do know they're Italians, right? Please do not be racist about my people.
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I think I've worked out how to deal with the Meatspin problem. Is there any way we can trick him into driving a car designed by Colin Chapman?
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Rebus posted:Never met him, think I once saw him in the office a couple of years ago. Similarly I once saw Patrick Head but it could easily also have been Meatloaf. Would you prefer to work with Patrick Head or Meatloaf from a car design perspective?
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:I disapprove so many are wasting energy on this Meatzipan guy. What will be will be. That's a bold stand on this forum.
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Sulman posted:Do you have a competing hypothesis or are you just going to continue sucking your own dick? Lmao so edgy
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