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ded posted:California is doing worse right now than NY was back in the early months of the pandemic. So what do we do? Well gently caress you no lock downs we have celebs running maskless caroling! But there are no celebs mentioned in this story?
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Dec 23, 2020 22:11
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Just because you don't recognize kirk cameron as the d-list piece of poo poo he is doesn't mean banana man isn't popular with the focus on the family crowd. But he is absolutely a walking sack of poo poo who we should all revile more than andy dick because he's actively working to make the world a worse place. Andy Dick is just slowly rotting in a travel trailer in front of his house yet. Probably.
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Dec 23, 2020 22:16
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Not that it’s likely to happen, but I wonder if the Dems could say, we’ll do the NDAA override with you...once the 2K is passed. It probably looks to harm D’s more, because they’re “loving over the troops.” But for 2K a person and the transformative effect that could have for certain families...I’d almost say it’s worth it. CRUSTY MINGE posted:Just because you don't recognize kirk cameron as the d-list piece of poo poo he is doesn't mean banana man isn't popular with the focus on the family crowd. Man I’m sorry but I’m not forgetting how good Phil was and all the awesome stuff he would have still been doing. That said Kirk is still sentient dogshit capable of speech.
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Dec 23, 2020 22:16
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I get it, Andy Dick is most definitively human garbage. At least he's slowly killing himself in a can though, while Cameron is leading a merry bunch of covid spreaders because his sky wizard tells him to do it. I feel like Cameron is the worse person of the two, but the degree of separation is so thin you need a micrometer to measure it.
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Dec 23, 2020 22:24
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I get it, Andy Dick is most definitively human garbage. At least he's slowly killing himself in a can though, while Cameron is leading a merry bunch of covid spreaders because his sky wizard tells him to do it. You’re not wrong at all, I just really loved Phil Hartman. Honestly the best solution is for Jon Lovitz to beat the poo poo out of Cameron too...while dressed as Hanukah Harry. Also MORE pardons and clemency today. https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1341857598325309441?s=21 Place your bets. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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Dec 23, 2020 22:28
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MazelTovCocktail posted:It probably looks to harm D’s more Centrists, both right and left leaning apply this phrase to any piece of action or legislation that isn't just doing what the republicans want the vast majority of the time. So there will need to come a point when one must ask themselves, If they really want a left leaning ostenisibly progressive party or do they just want a republican party that they can tell their LGBTQIA+ and Minority friends they're apart of without getting dirty looks.
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Dec 23, 2020 22:39
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Most of the troops have been doing just fine collecting their bimonthly paychecks through this entire pandemic. They don’t need help more than the rest of the American public right now.
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Dec 23, 2020 22:59
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Hekk posted:Most of the troops have been doing just fine collecting their bimonthly paychecks through this entire pandemic. They don’t need help more than the rest of the American public right now. Quite frankly, gently caress the troops. Especially if you are still in.
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Dec 23, 2020 23:04
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Promise? I’ve been over seas for 6 months now and I feel like I might be the only one on this ship not having sex.
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Dec 23, 2020 23:05
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Also MORE pardons and clemency today. I’ll take Kyle Rittenhouse.
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Dec 23, 2020 23:06
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Look I'm not disagreeing, just that I'd have trouble seeing the D's actually doing it. Look being married with 2 kids...8K tax free would be really nice. pantslesswithwolves posted:I’ll take Kyle Rittenhouse. Nah he can't do that because it's state charges.
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Dec 23, 2020 23:06
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pantslesswithwolves posted:I’ll take Kyle Rittenhouse. Can't, they're state crimes Rittenhouse is charged with. Couldn't pardon him if he wanted to 
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Dec 23, 2020 23:07
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:I like the idea of UBI in general, but the stimulus as written gives the same amount of money to an hourly worker who has had their income go way down as it does to a software engineer whose only burden is logging onto VPN. How does that make sense? $2000 to an hourly worker can quite literally save their life. $2000 to a software engineer is a nice bonus. A person making 6 figures is benefiting less from a universal payout than someone who is living paycheque to paycheque. It's like giving someone riding the poverty line a loaf of bread, box of fresh produce and a sack of potatoes every week versus some computer toucher in Silicon Valley (ignoring the part where the latter probably doesn't know what to do with it).
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Dec 23, 2020 23:10
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Nah he can't do that because it's state charges. Why would he let a little thing like the Constitution stand in the way of bigly MAGA justice? 
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Dec 23, 2020 23:21
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Eej posted:$2000 to an hourly worker can quite literally save their life. $2000 to a software engineer is a nice bonus. A person making 6 figures is benefiting less from a universal payout than someone who is living paycheque to paycheque. Giving everyone money is a lot easier and probably more effective than figuring out some sorta means test hurdle that screws some amount of people that actually need it. Worst case scenario in giving computer touchers 2k is that they go and spend it on food, stupid electronics crap, or spends it repaying loans.
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Dec 23, 2020 23:31
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Defenestrategy posted:Giving everyone money is a lot easier and probably more effective than figuring out some sorta means test hurdle that screws some amount of people that actually need it. Worst case scenario in giving computer touchers 2k is that they go and spend it on food, stupid electronics crap, or spends it repaying loans. That’s a weird way of typing weed.
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Dec 23, 2020 23:34
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2k is just enough money for a ps5 and some weed these days
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Dec 24, 2020 00:03
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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1341902581002629122 https://youtu.be/xF0cGt5-69k
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Dec 24, 2020 01:37
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Even if its because he's Jared's dad, its even funnier because its mostly just a gently caress you to Chris Christy for not being a perfect bootlicker and Jared's dad was doing *~*just fine*~* already
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Dec 24, 2020 01:45
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Ok, I'm starting to like the Orange gently caress. He's just going full potato, and it's fantastic. The perfect ending to the year. Doesn't accepting a pardon compel you to testify?
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Dec 24, 2020 01:53
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bulletsponge13 posted:Ok, I'm starting to like the Orange gently caress. He's just going full potato, and it's fantastic. The perfect ending to the year. Not exactly, but accepting one carries an implicit admission of guilt that could be used as evidence of crimes related to the thing you got pardoned for. Example: if you got brought up on federal and state charges for the same thing but got pardoned of federal charges, then it could be used as a proof that you did it. It's basically waiving your 5th amendment rights not to self-incriminate. orange juche fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Dec 24, 2020 01:56
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orange juche posted:Not exactly, but accepting one carries an implicit admission of guilt that could be used as evidence of crimes related to the thing you got pardoned for. Example: if you got brought up on federal and state charges for the same thing but got pardoned of federal charges, then it could be used as a proof that you did it. It's basically waiving your 5th amendment rights not to self-incriminate. Thanks for clarifying. Maybe I'm the idiot, but pardoning all your conspirators when you aren't exactly free and clear seems like a tactical error. But I don't play 4d Chess.
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Dec 24, 2020 02:06
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https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1341908306730704896?s=20 ~*~drain the swamp~*~
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Dec 24, 2020 02:08
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Especially when they all either need/want money and rolling on Donald would be the easiest way to get some.
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Dec 24, 2020 02:09
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https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1067431464524869633?s=19 At least most of these are the clean-record kind of corrupt pardons. Even Manafort was in home confinement already. I'm more pissed about the Blackwater fucks. He's definitely going to pardon himself on the way out, then probably find out that's not as great a shield as he thinks.
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Dec 24, 2020 02:14
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Hot Karl Marx posted:hmm, obama even did it in 2015 https://twitter.com/ossoff/status/1341850791309668356 (tweet he's quoting is from 2015)
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Dec 24, 2020 02:18
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Soylent Pudding posted:Splitting this one 50/50 between the local food bank and donating to the GA senate campaigns. It’s your money but wouldn’t recommend donating to the senate races at this point. There’s so much cash pouring in they’ve been buying ads in Tennessee and Florida to try to reach every possible voter. Might be better to donate more to food banks to directly help people, instead of a Nashville tv station.
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Dec 24, 2020 02:28
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pantslesswithwolves posted:https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1341902581002629122 The references to Manafort being in the "hoax" and Stone being treated "very unfairly" makes me think Trump personally wrote these in crayon and some handler put them in third-person for public release. e- https://twitter.com/WindsorMann/status/1341906497228451841 
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Dec 24, 2020 02:39
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pantslesswithwolves posted:https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1341902581002629122 I was about to get angry and then I remembered that sensible revered elder statesman George H W Bush pardoned all his co-conspirators for the little incident wherein he and his buddies illegally sold weapons to Iran and used the proceeds to illegally fund a rape and torture drug club.
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Dec 24, 2020 03:09
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bulletsponge13 posted:Ok, I'm starting to like the Orange gently caress. He's just going full potato, and it's fantastic. The perfect ending to the year. Essentially. It means you can't refuse to testify by pleading the 5th with regard to the pardoning jurisdiction. This is the actual legal rule of the Easlick case, not the 'finding of guilt' (implicit or otherwise) tweetbait. e: Accepting a pardon is in no way, shape or form evidence of guilt. (*Florida may be the exception) joat mon fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Dec 24, 2020 03:10
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joat mon posted:Essentially. It means you can't refuse to testify by pleading the 5th with regard to the pardoning jurisdiction. This is the actual legal rule of the Easlick case, not the 'finding of guilt' (implicit or otherwise) tweetbait. So effectively if you get brought to court on matters relating to the pardon you have to either tell the truth or perjure yourself?
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Dec 24, 2020 03:15
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Defenestrategy posted:So effectively if you get brought to court on matters relating to the pardon you have to either tell the truth or perjure yourself? Or called before Congress.
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Dec 24, 2020 03:15
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Defenestrategy posted:So effectively if you get brought to court on matters relating to the pardon you have to either tell the truth or perjure yourself? You could still claim the 5th for a different jurisdiction. Also keep in mind that people like Flynn and Manafort have already (actually, legally) pled / been found guilty, making the Easlick fantasy completely inapplicable. Congress needs be careful about compelling testimony, e.g. Ollie North. (Convictions overturned because they relied in part on Congressionally compelled testimony) joat mon fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Dec 24, 2020 03:22
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Hot Karl Marx posted:This is probably also Dominion's last chance to make any money after this cause their reputation is going to be ruined no matter what happens. They need to change names or dissolve or whatever after this cause no one is going to be using them again after this Yeah they got Acorned. No one is going to buy their stuff ever again. It doesn’t matter if the people making the purchase decisions know the claims are bogus. It’s not worth the public ire when alternatives exist.
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Dec 24, 2020 03:52
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Defenestrategy posted:So effectively if you get brought to court on matters relating to the pardon you have to either tell the truth or perjure yourself? You can actually take the 5th and claim that you would expose yourself to prosecution at the state level, however a state prosecutor is liable to go to the US attorneys office and say "hey gimme the deets on that case" so they can investigate to see if they can bring state charges for the same or similar things. This is probably actually happening right now at this moment for most of the folks Trump is pardoning. The federal pardon is not going to be the end of the road for a lot of this poo poo.
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Dec 24, 2020 04:36
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orange juche posted:You can actually take the 5th and claim that you would expose yourself to prosecution at the state level, however a state prosecutor is liable to go to the US attorneys office and say "hey gimme the deets on that case" so they can investigate to see if they can bring state charges for the same or similar things. This is probably actually happening right now at this moment for most of the folks Trump is pardoning. The federal pardon is not going to be the end of the road for a lot of this poo poo. There was mention that NY dropped the Manafort case after the federal conviction due to double jeopardy rules. Does that change with a pardon?
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Dec 24, 2020 04:39
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:There was mention that NY dropped the Manafort case after the federal conviction due to double jeopardy rules. Does that change with a pardon? The New York state courts threw out the state case because of New York's strong double jeopardy protections (they were not dismissed with prejudice, though), however New York also has a law that says that accepting a federal pardon removes your double jeopardy immunity at the state level, so the state DA is right now probably rolling up their sleeves and getting ready to super slam him. (this law is how they're planning on nabbing Trump if he pardons himself for financial crimes etc, it's also why NYS has been extremely quiet about unveiling charges against Trump, to potentially prevent the double jeopardy law from kicking in.) All the state DA will have to do is say "Look! He accepted a pardon! We can reopen the case now!" and the state courts will say "Ok do it". orange juche fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Dec 24, 2020 05:07
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Oh man Jared‘s dad is one colossal piece of poo poo. Even by standards of today. https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1341909721943580674?s=21
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Dec 24, 2020 05:13
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:https://twitter.com/ossoff/status/1341850791309668356 
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In case you've been missing it, the combination of the UK's lockdown and imposed-quarantine by the EU has triggered a logistical nightmare. Thousands of trucks cannot leave the country, the M2 to Dover is basically a parking lot, an airfield has been repurposed as an actual parking lot, truckers have been rioting on the docks, demanding to leave, it's a complete and utter shitshow.Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah it's somewhat less than optimal Bonus: https://twitter.com/matthewchampion/status/1341357568606744577
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