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Mega Comrade posted:It's not. Basically it's someone who can only be sexually attracted to someone once they have formed an emotional bond. I feel like there's also a slut shaming element to it. They aren't like those slutty sluts who identify as sluts, they must be in love first.
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Guys, demisexual isn't supposed to be a sexual orientation. Like other gray-asexual labels, it's a modifier. You can be a demisexual heterosexual (and heteroromantic to get really specific) and then you're straight. I identify as gray-asexual because my libido is all hosed up from anti-depressants I'm unwilling to stop taking, but I'm a lesbian. Specific qualifiers like demisexual are useful jargon in certain conversations about sex and relationships. They seem out of place in other contexts because usually they are. They aren't supposed to be a sexual orientation though, and it's kind of gross to assume everyone who identifies that way is straight, or that a straight demisexual is inherently just wanting attention. For the record given the level of this conversation. An asexual person does not feel sexual attraction. Gray-asexuality is some attraction, but significantly lower than the norm or with a lot of caveats. It can also imply romantic attraction but not sexual, I think.
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OwlFancier posted:For apparently not knowing what it meant 30 minutes ago you certainly seem very invested in the idea that they're acceptable targets.
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PetraCore posted:Specific qualifiers like demisexual are useful jargon in certain conversations about sex and relationships. So far only thing the term 'demisexual' seems to do is make arguments about the term 'demisexual'
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PetraCore posted:Guys, demisexual isn't supposed to be a sexual orientation. Like other gray-asexual labels, it's a modifier. You can be a demisexual heterosexual (and heteroromantic to get really specific) and then you're straight. I identify as gray-asexual because my libido is all hosed up from anti-depressants I'm unwilling to stop taking, but I'm a lesbian. Understood and that's fine, but I'm wildly guessing that you don't particularly feel a need to have a flag for it Like this whole thing got started because of people adopting flags for everything whether a sexuality vocabulary modifier or a real marginalized group that needs some symbolic solidarity in the face of societal oppression I could be wrong and off-base though and I don't mean this to sound confrontational or oppression-olympics if I am
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Dienes posted:I feel like there's also a slut shaming element to it. They aren't like those slutty sluts who identify as sluts, they must be in love first.
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Data Graham posted:Understood and that's fine, but I'm wildly guessing that you don't particularly feel a need to have a flag for it Is this a community-adopted flag or is this one person on Twitter that spent ten seconds in MS Paint and showed it off? Anyone can make a flag for anything. I'm sure someone's made a Goon Flag at some point.
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I'm sure it's the latter, but this is just why people are going "hey, no, knock it off, that sucks" instead of "hell yeah, flags for all"
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Vib Rib posted:It's pretty cool how for as progressive as they think of themselves a lot of people here will immediately revert into the exact same lovely regressive points that have been used for decades the second they discover something new they have a thin understanding of. Really great to see the "stop trying to make up special labels for yourself" dismissal that chuds spout nonstop making a return on SomethingAwful.com!
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Where do we all stand with the “bear pride” flag? Are bears especially persecuted even with LGBT communities? It always felt kinda weird to me as an outsider to have a pride flag for what seems to boil down to a “type” rather than a sexuality unto itself.
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Mega Comrade posted:It's not. Basically it's someone who can only be sexually attracted to someone once they have formed an emotional bond. Dienes posted:I feel like there's also a slut shaming element to it. They aren't like those slutty sluts who identify as sluts, they must be in love first. It weird that you can only think about this a some kind of clout chasing behaviour rather than people trying to understand and explain their own internal experiences. Like, if I think about genuinely not being attracted to people unless I already liked them, it would be quite weird actually. I don't have any opinion on whether it would, "count as queer" or whatever. But if I was growing up and I didn't think that Pamela Anderson or Beyonce or the girl everyone in class agreed was the hottest was attractive, I'd certainly have spent a bunch of time questioning my sexuality.
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sassassin posted:What's the sexuality where you preferred Yasmine Bleeth to Pamela Anderson? That's just good taste.
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OwlFancier posted:It is entirely possible to characterise most sexualities as "not wanting to gently caress someone" but you clearly are capable of understanding that sometimes people can have a particular trend in those they don't want to gently caress, which can cause people difficulties when the people they don't want to gently caress are people that society expects them to want to gently caress. Welcome to the LGBT movement: Chubby chasers.
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With Demisexuals I always took it as this being the basic spectrum - Allosexual, potential for sexual arousal based purely on physical appearence and nothing else. You see a pretty woman or man and boioioing like a bad sitcom. Then go from there or meow like a cat based on your preferred tactic. Demisexual - recognises a pretty person that they may be interested in, and asks them out. Their genitals don't immediately go for it like an allosexual, but after they are comfortable it starts to stir. Asexual - recognises a person they might be interested in a friendship with based on multiple aspects, but their genitals just don't react in that way.
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VinylonUnderground posted:A lot of American crops are effectively a monoculture. There are like, five varieties of potatoes you can buy in America without really going out of your way. Europe and Britain are generally better at having a superior variety of staple fruits and vegetables. I grew up in apple country, so I have strong opinions about Stayman Winesaps (the best), Transparents (the first apple, good only for applesauce, makes very strange pies), and Macouns (fantastic during the couple of weeks they're in season, mush immediately afterward.) For years, you could only get Red Delicious outside apple country. Then came Granny Smiths, later Fujis. A big deal a couple of years back was Honeycrisp, which customers asked for by name, thanks both to quality and to a marketing campaign. You get multiple varieties of anything available only when the farmers/marketers do a campaign. Yukon Gold potatoes were supposed to taste like butter --and didn't -- but the point as far as we were concerned was that suddenly we could get boiling potatoes year-round. Before Yukon Golds, stores would always have russets and might or might not have thin-skinned boiling potatoes. tl;dr Yup, fruits and vegetables shouldn't be monocultures.
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What’s the identity for Pat Rothfussy guys who write poo poo like thisquote:It will be a good movie. Maybe even a great movie. But it will also be, at best, a moderately okay adaptation of the subtle, sweet book that I grew up loving. An old IOSM but a “favourite” that was just brought back to my attention
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Are there any functional social media groups in the world? I used to have facebook but nothing I saw during my brief stay looked like a good idea. Our neighborhood had a facebook group but it was pretty much 100% shitposting and gossip about people living there. Their pets and their cars etc. My current job has a facebook group for the workers where they spend all day talking poo poo about the boss but also openly bragging about neglecting their work. So I'm nope'ing out of that one because it will absolutely result in drama.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:What’s the identity for Pat Rothfussy guys who write poo poo like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDjMZKf-wg
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:What’s the identity for Pat Rothfussy guys who write poo poo like this So what movie was he talking about?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:What’s the identity for Pat Rothfussy guys who write poo poo like this Jaygeilsexual
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grittyreboot posted:So what movie was he talking about? Wasn’t it Lord of the Rings?
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Patrick Spens posted:It weird that you can only think about this a some kind of clout chasing behaviour rather than people trying to understand and explain their own internal experiences. Like, if I think about genuinely not being attracted to people unless I already liked them, it would be quite weird actually. I don't have any opinion on whether it would, "count as queer" or whatever. But if I was growing up and I didn't think that Pamela Anderson or Beyonce or the girl everyone in class agreed was the hottest was attractive, I'd certainly have spent a bunch of time questioning my sexuality. If that was the context in which I ever encountered it, I would agree with you. I think our society has this idea that everyone is boning constantly and one-night stands are common across everyone...and that's not true. Teenagers particularly think this, and I could see demisexual is a way of working through the realization that they don't want to gently caress everyone at any time. I wouldn't be shocked if a bunch of teenagers who identify as demisexual drop the label later in life when they realize there isn't an expectation of being willing to bone strangers at a moment's notice. (Well, unless you're a woman in the presence of a straight cisman who finds you attractive but that's a separate issue.) However, the only people I've met in real life who use it always, unfailingly, use it in conjunction with putting down someone else for their sexuality. "What, you find <actor> attractive? Ew, that's gross. I'm demisexual, I could never do that. Attraction and sex have meaning for me."
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As I'm sure I've said in this thread before, demisexuality is more of a branch off asexuality than a completely separate thing. It doesn't mean "I don't know you very well, so I'm going to wait", it means that, in practical terms, a person who considers themselves demisexual might have only experienced sexual attraction to one person in their whole life. Which isn't the same thing as "I saved myself for The One", because that's about self-control or "morality" or whatever, whereas this is just...not being interested. Also, you may have met people who were obnoxious attention seekers who called themselves demisexual, but it might be that other people don't want to mention it because everyone will tell them that they just made that up for attention, and nobody cares about their fake problems. I'm asexual myself, but I don't tell people in real life because of the unpleasant reactions I've seen online (not all of them much different from some of the opinions on demisexuality in the last couple of pages).
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Dienes posted:If that was the context in which I ever encountered it, I would agree with you. I think our society has this idea that everyone is boning constantly and one-night stands are common across everyone...and that's not true. Teenagers particularly think this, and I could see demisexual is a way of working through the realization that they don't want to gently caress everyone at any time. I wouldn't be shocked if a bunch of teenagers who identify as demisexual drop the label later in life when they realize there isn't an expectation of being willing to bone strangers at a moment's notice. (Well, unless you're a woman in the presence of a straight cisman who finds you attractive but that's a separate issue.)
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The only thing dumber than demisexuality is people annoyed at the existence of demisexuality. Also, I am Lady Toffee Raspberries of Kroger.
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PetraCore posted:The problem, as with so many things, are the people willing to tell you unwanted details about their libido are going to be attention seeking assholes, especially if this is in person and not someone quietly putting 'homosexual' in their twitter bio. It's not so different from being the person who announces inappropriately when they're horny.
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Stunt_enby posted:i agree, those drat gays would have all the rights they want if they'd just shut the hell up and keep it to themselves
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PetraCore posted:Guys, demisexual isn't supposed to be a sexual orientation. Like other gray-asexual labels, it's a modifier. You can be a demisexual heterosexual (and heteroromantic to get really specific) and then you're straight. I identify as gray-asexual because my libido is all hosed up from anti-depressants I'm unwilling to stop taking, but I'm a lesbian. I agree that it isn't an orientation. It's clearly a preference. But the premise doesn't seem to have anything to do with asexuality at all. It's purely about pacing, connection. "Demisexuals" aren't asexual, they're just slow-rolling. I'll posit "ademisexuals", who are only able to copulate in the absence of emotional connection, now what? Are they also asexual except in a particular context? Maybe "only sexual depending on emotional connection" shouldn't be considered a subset of "not interested in being sexual" stringless has a new favorite as of 21:03 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Powered Descent posted:I remember this one, allosexuals have longer arms than tyrannosexuals! I'm a goddamn sexual allosaurus!
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Speaking of dinosaurs, does anyone know where I can get a good illustrated book with floofy feathered dinosaurs? All the ones I've encountered still have the older smooth-scale look to them. One written with a kid in mind.
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VinylonUnderground posted:Speaking of dinosaurs, does anyone know where I can get a good illustrated book with floofy feathered dinosaurs? All the ones I've encountered still have the older smooth-scale look to them. One written with a kid in mind. Dinosaur Feathers by Dennis Nolan or Feathered Dinosaurs by Brenda Z. Guiberson. EDIT: There's also another book titled Feathered Dinosaurs by Don Lessem. EDIT: One more recommendation: Neffy and the Feathered Dinosaurs by Joe Lillington. The cover has dinosaurs that are very floofy. 
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Powered Descent posted:I remember this one, allosexuals have longer arms than tyrannosexuals! More fingers, too.
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Patrick Spens posted:But if I was growing up and I didn't think that Pamela Anderson or Beyonce or the girl everyone in class agreed was the hottest was attractive, I'd certainly have spent a bunch of time questioning my sexuality. I just wanted to let you know I think this is a really good point.
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FFT posted:I agree that it isn't an orientation. It's clearly a preference. But the premise doesn't seem to have anything to do with asexuality at all. It's purely about pacing, connection. "Demisexuals" aren't asexual, they're just slow-rolling. I wonder how many demisexuals are women, because moving slow is heavily conditioned. Woman who date men often move slowly because we need to vet them/feel out if they are likely to abuse or murder us. FFT posted:I'll posit "ademisexuals", who are only able to copulate in the absence of emotional connection, now what? Are they also asexual except in a particular context? Maybe "only sexual depending on emotional connection" shouldn't be considered a subset of "not interested in being sexual" If being selective or conditional in when/where/who you have sex with is a form of asexuality, than 99% of the world is asexual. Asexuality is presented as a spectrum that includes, according to tumblr, folks with an libido who want to and enjoy having sex with people who arouse them by being physically attractive, but this does not count as attraction and thus the person is ace.
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