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You did it you crazy bastards. After 4 years on the toilet you finally done did a Brexit.
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Mr Phillby posted:I thought May's 'deal' was just the withdrawal agreement that boris shoved through despite voting against it multiple times lol. Nah, May's deal was to have Northern Ireland still under EU rules, and the customs border in the Irish Sea. Boris bummed and bluffed that a 'technological solution' will be created for his customs border at the republican border. And willing to break the withdrawal agreement to do so. And its still appartently the Irish Border, there has been no news to say otherwise. It's still 'gently caress you NI'. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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Fumble posted:Boris Johnson is a loving oval office.
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so is England hosed or is it one of those 'everything is the same but worse by a little bit' situations.
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Our Finance sector will drain away and Kent's going to remain a lorry park until customs infrastructure scales up, but we're not going to starve.
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Fumble posted:Is it a better or worse than Mays deal? May's deal was the withdrawal agreement (and Johnson's version that later passed was 99% identical). it wasn't the post-Brexit trade agreement which today's news is.
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Al-Saqr posted:so is England hosed or is it one of those 'everything is the same but worse by a little bit' situations. Boris saved us and we're going to rule the waves and they've even said we might be getting India back
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https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1342156285551239168?s=19 Come out ye Starmer stans cmon and fight me like a man
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Does this keep us safe from the US chlorinated chicken?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://twitter.com/sensiblehuman96/status/1342155454458327046?s=20 The first one misunderstands starmer. He is there in order to allow government business to progress smoothly, pretty much whatever that business is. And to prevent any kind of unrest, democratic or otherwise. So yeah now the business of government is brexit he will whip this thru cause its important to the govs long term stability that both parties take responsibility for this.
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Why not just give a free vote? He and shadow cabinet vote for it. Some key remainers vote against ot abstain. Same goes for the socialist group. Cake and eat it. He is so bad at this.
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Cerv posted:apples & oranges
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Katt posted:You did it you crazy bastards. After 4 years on the toilet you finally done did a Brexit. Where does this Brexit rank on the Bristol scale in terms of hardness/softness?
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notaspy posted:Why not just give a free vote? He and shadow cabinet vote for it. Some key remainers vote against ot abstain. Same goes for the socialist group. If he whips the party to do something unpopular, the whole party's popularity suffers. If he doesn't whip, he looks weak, which is worse for him in particular.
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Tesla was right posted:Our Finance sector will drain away and Kent's going to remain a lorry park until customs infrastructure scales up, but we're not going to starve. The new finance rules appear to allow a lot of grey areas so I assume our finance sector will just become even more criminal and dodgy, I doubt its going anywhere sadly
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escapegoat posted:Where does this Brexit rank on the Bristol scale in terms of hardness/softness? Mushy lumps within a sticky wet goop, strong smell of rotting cod
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Yeah there's gonna be a customs border in the Irish sea, this has been agreed to for sometime now and pretty much every northern Irish business has been warned to get ready for it - no big changes on how goods go to GB but the transit of goods from GB to NI will require customs declarations (though the government is hoping the trusted trader scheme agreed to will streamline this). The real effects of this are already reverberating in NI news sphere with several companies announcing new carriage costs for shipping to NI, commercial suppliers notifying some businesses they will cease shipments to NI as the market is simply too small to justify eating the costs of the new paperwork burdens and warning that increased costs of shipping will have to be passed down to consumers. We had a whole mini crisis a few weeks ago where suddenly everyone realised that EU rules on third country imports bans chilled meats and processed foods basically destroying several supermarket supply chains - they eventually negotiated a six month grace period to allow supermarkets to develop new supply chains to stop immediate shortages but yeah it's no longer permissible to send sausages from Bristol to Belfast
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TACD posted:Does this keep us safe from the US chlorinated chicken? I think so but honestly it's the deadly lettuce and cancerous meats allowed by the us that are the real issue
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Has Majid nawazz always been this weird or did he catch something at the lib dem conference
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Starmer only cares about what the press will say.
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I see BoJo went for the old tactic of bring things to a point of total disaster then when you pull it back to slightly less than total disaster claim victory. This will work because Britain.
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Setting in for Xmas with a painful eye infection! Impressive from NHS though, called 111 and got seen by video call, prescription sent to my local Sainsbury's, although it was something bought cheaper over the counter. Hoping the antibiotics calm it down overnight
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Random Integer posted:I see BoJo went for the old tactic of bring things to a point of total disaster then when you pull it back to slightly less than total disaster claim victory. This will work because Britain. Hence the old joke about why he has so many children
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Jel Shaker posted:so hopefully this deal means we still get time sensitive stuff from the EU like radio isotopes? We left Euratom because it has EU in the name. I've not seen yet what's going to replace it. My Labour MP emailed earlier inviting all constituents to a zoom call the day before the Brexit vote to discuss how he was going to vote, but now Keith's annonced he's whipping for it I assume it'll turn into an hour of hand wringing and platitudes. Lungboy fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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My hot take is that the Tories. Unshackled from the EU will use the taxes of the workers to cushion the capital class against Brexit fallout. Meanwhile the BBC will report how the economy is doing better than ever but beware of dangerous uppity minority groups around the corner. This will probably sustain the Tories for another 2-3 elections.
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Lungboy posted:We left Euratom because it has EU in the name. I've not seen yet what's going to replace it. ITER, Erasmus, Galileo We might be able to rejoin ITER eventually because it's not EU specific but still, so much of value just thrown away.
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  we need to leave the EU because it likes peace, but then rejoin it when it's become the EF with a foreign policy of enthusiastic participation in America's wars
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At least the fishing stuff might bring some benefit to a number of small-time businesses and worker- https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1341310888528261120?s=20 Oh.
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jiggerypokery posted:Has Majid nawazz always been this weird or did he catch something at the lib dem conference He's a psycho op
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I look forward to a decent analysis of all this four to six months down the line, because at the moment it's all just a load of bullshit flying around. 
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Lungboy posted:We left Euratom because it has EU in the name. I've not seen yet what's going to replace it. gonadic io posted:ITER, Erasmus, Galileo Galileo we only lose access to the encrypted military feeds.
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i hope an irish newspaper has the balls to run the headline BRITS OUT tomorrow  or whenever, idk if there are papers on Christmas day, i'm not a expert crispix fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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WhatEvil posted:At least the fishing stuff might bring some benefit to a number of small-time businesses and worker- I believe over half of “our” quota is ultimately owned by non-UK companies.
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Guavanaut posted:Is pourmecoffee thread poster feedmegin the following morning? Lol if you think I won't drink gin in the morning
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Communist Thoughts posted:The new finance rules appear to allow a lot of grey areas so I assume our finance sector will just become even more criminal and dodgy, I doubt its going anywhere sadly The EU documents describe the new situation as "less stable". The finance sector is absolutely going to take steps to stabilise that, and said steps will be in the direction of Frankfurt.
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Why don't you go ex-pat yourself to an actual war zone and observe it up close and personal if you love it so much you miserable old prune.
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WhatEvil posted:At least the fishing stuff might bring some benefit to a number of small-time businesses and worker- So this explains why the Conservatives have been willing to tell the financial, automotive etc. sectors to do one in order to provide a slight benefit to a niche industry with very few employees that barely contributes to the economy. Also why the narrative about said industry is all "Why should they have to retrain? Why should families who have fished for generations have to do something else? What happens to places like Newlyn, Brixham and Peterhead without fishing? It keeps the communities together! It's one of our traditional industries that's part of our national identity!" ... a narrative which of course the Conservatives were entirely on board with when it came to e.g. coal miners, steel workers, dockers, shipbuilders, merchant sailors, tool makers, weavers [fade out]
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jiggerypokery posted:Is this the first thing labor aren't whipping for abstain? I honestly wonder if there has ever been an opposition so committed to doing absolutely nothing
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