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The actor that plays Thom is also Flynn Ryder in the Danish version of Rapunzel, if anyone wants to actually hear him singing. It'd expect Thom to be a bit more gruff/weathered, but it's not bad at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3tdwySjgTc
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Somewhat more importantly, there's a Q&A with Rafe: https://twitter.com/i/events/1341862273153810432 ...in which the guitar question is addressed, though not the beer one.
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Sanderson being one of the go/no go people is a little concerning.
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jng2058 posted:Somewhat more importantly, there's a Q&A with Rafe: Oh, I hadn't seen that Q&A. The fact that they're making Thom "younger and gritter" is a little disquieting, but I've heard good things from basically everyone about Rafe (and just found out he was on Survivor when I googled him) so I'll withhold judgement. Here's the specific answer if anyone else was curious. https://twitter.com/WOTonPrime/status/1341858583680483328
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Gnoman posted:Sanderson being one of the go/no go people is a little concerning. Whatever you think of his handling of the last three books, you can't deny he knows his WoT lore.
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I thought he plays a harp
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I thought he plays a harp yes, that's a change from the books
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Soysaucebeast posted:Oh, I hadn't seen that Q&A. The fact that they're making Thom "younger and gritter" is a little disquieting, but I've heard good things from basically everyone about Rafe (and just found out he was on Survivor when I googled him) so I'll withhold judgement. Here's the specific answer if anyone else was curious. Equating "strong masculine energy" with "younger & grittier" is a bit worrying, even given the gendered themes in the books but I'm going to hope for the best.
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Dec 24, 2020 04:28
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What the gently caress. At the very least make it a lute.
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jng2058 posted:Whatever you think of his handling of the last three books, you can't deny he knows his WoT lore. yeah makes sense to me no one asked: will randlanders say "gently caress" and "poo poo" like in GoT and will Elayne use these swears badly? Lews tap dancing Therin, egwene, you want to be an Aes Sedai?? Guitar, harp, whatever. A guitar's too delicate for your rough farmer's handy, boy. Toss a coin to your Gleeman! i posted the link to the QA in that same post, fools. click my link instead
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Dec 24, 2020 04:43
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Sounds like Jared Leto should have been cast for Thom.
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Dec 24, 2020 06:49
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Leto would be a better Rand tbh
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Dec 24, 2020 07:05
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Honestly I don’t mind if they change his instrument; but if he isn’t part of the initial party that leaves Emond’s Field I’m not going to be happy.
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The Lord Bude posted:Honestly I don’t mind if they change his instrument; but if he isn’t part of the initial party that leaves Emond’s Field I’m not going to be happy. I believe he's only been filming in block 2, episodes 3 and 4. Which suggests to me that Rand and Mat meet him in an inn on their way from Shadar Logoth, and that he leaves them somewhere outside of Caemlyn, perhaps in Rand's last confrontation with the darkfriends (and there's a fade or so in that group) pursuing him and Mat.
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https://twitter.com/WOTonPrime/status/1341858200941776896 Hmm. My bet's on no Elayne yet, and they only introduce her later once Egwene and Nynaeve are in the tower. Changes the romance with Rand too, probably for the better.
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Is there an actor for Gawyn yet? Does he have a dumb stupid face that thinks a farm boy with a staff is easy pickings?
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Probably just be better if they took the liberty to excise him. Not like he really does anything for like 12 books anyways.
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JOHN SKELETON posted:https://twitter.com/WOTonPrime/status/1341858200941776896 Democratic Pirate posted:Is there an actor for Gawyn yet? Does he have a dumb stupid face that thinks a farm boy with a staff is easy pickings? Given that we've gotten pretty good info on casting so far, excepting "Steve", the fact that we haven't heard about a single Trakand, makes it seem like Elayne, Gawyn, Galad, and Morgase are all appearing first in season two. Though maybe Morgase and/or Elaida show up as part of the expanded Logain stuff the show is doing. That said... Invalid Validation posted:Probably just be better if they took the liberty to excise him. Not like he really does anything for like 12 books anyways. ...this feels like a pretty decent idea. Gawyn only shows up sporadically and sucks when he does appear. If you need a "major" character to dump to smooth your production, Gawyn is at the top of my list. 
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My only worry is that without Gawyn someone else will be the Worst Person in the Story, and if we keep trimming those it'll eventually hit someone actually likeable.
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Bruceski posted:My only worry is that without Gawyn someone else will be the Worst Person in the Story, and if we keep trimming those it'll eventually hit someone actually likeable. I’m hoping they clean up the plot line, but Perrin’s teenage relationship angst could pick up that mantle pretty quickly.
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Dec 24, 2020 18:38
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Thom better still be coming to Emond's field.
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I dunno if a younger Thom can even really be Thom. It changes his relationship dynamic with pretty much everyone, and I'm not sure you can cram even most of his backtsory and motivations into someone not-old. I suppose maybe that doesn't matter as much in the shorter format of TV?jng2058 posted:Whatever you think of his handling of the last three books, you can't deny he knows his WoT lore.
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Younger Thom was busy being callow and rash in various places. Half the character is hung on the “I’m too old for this t’averen” trope. I don’t know how his relationships have any of their necessary depth if he’s younger, including the penultimate one. Going to be strange, for sure.
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Gawyn should just be a minor character who shows up in the Warder training grounds, gets knocked out by Mat, and then is never seen again.
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that but with no other context or backstory he goes flying towards demandred and gets loving chumped
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I never expected a Thom older than, say, the early 50s. Morgase is like, mid-to-late 30s, Moiraine's probably early 40s. They probably made Thom like 5 whole years younger than in the books.
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I don't mind the change to guitar, or Thom only being 48 instead of like 70. The stated reasons for the changes sound pretty stupid though
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:I never expected a Thom older than, say, the early 50s. Morgase is like, mid-to-late 30s, Moiraine's probably early 40s. They probably made Thom like 5 whole years younger than in the books. Moiraine is 40s. She was Accepted in the day Rand was born, and he's 18ish at series beginning, and she and Sanche haven't spoken in 20 years. Morgasse has a ~16 year old kid so, yeah, late 30s. Thom can't be 70 unless he was banging a couple 18 year olds at 50. Also I can definitely see cutting out characters. I'm doing a reread, on book nine, and there are approximately seven hundred minor characters that constantly pop up and disappear for a book or two. The illuminator, the illian boat captain, Domon, Valda/Carridan, Luca, Elyas, Uno, Rhurarc, most of the Aiel, all the endless nobles, all disappear and then reappear then disappear again. I'd imagine they can't hire actors for a two minute appearance then a three year break before another one minute on screen. Then the Aes Sedai. They can write out every single one except Moiraine, Verin, Alanna, Elaida, Sanche, and, uh, maybe Cadsuane? Maybe have Galina play her and Alvirian's part? Characters like Myrelle, Romana, Nisao, Merana, Pevra, Kiruna, the twelve dark sisters, Teslyn, etc are all totally interchangeable and all inexplicabley disappear between books. Cast three of them and subsume all of those characters into those three. Ditto for the men. I mean they don't have the screen time to give every character one minute of dialogue, much less develop personalities.
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Maybe they'll consolidate gawyn and galad
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Galad would be a better cut anyway. He contributes even less to the plot.
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Galad will definitely make it he's a relatable character
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Honestly, it's weird to me to imagine WoT without all of its side characters. It has to be that way, obviously, but... weird. Like, Domon. Undoubtedly a minor character, but without him you have to do something different with the escape from Shadar Logoth. He's not really immediately relevant to the main characters at Falme, but he's how Egeanin gets into the story and without both of them Tanchico and Ebou Dar end differently and the Domination Band has to take a different path. Dude somehow manages to mostly only show up at climaxes, which honestly has to be a tough life.
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jng2058 posted:Given that we've gotten pretty good info on casting so far, excepting "Steve", the fact that we haven't heard about a single Trakand, makes it seem like Elayne, Gawyn, Galad, and Morgase are all appearing first in season two. Though maybe Morgase and/or Elaida show up as part of the expanded Logain stuff the show is doing. It does seem like they are just pulling Caemlyn out of the first season entirely, which sort of makes sense since you can get most of those character introduction in the Logain stuff or at Tar Valon. Also you do not have create both Tar Valon and Caemlyn at the same time which has to be useful production wise.
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*sigh* I hate to be one of those guys, but this is starting to look like it's going to land firmly in my "insufficiently accurate to source material" reject pile.
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rndmnmbr posted:*sigh* I hate to be one of those guys, but this is starting to look like it's going to land firmly in my "insufficiently accurate to source material" reject pile. That’s a super dumb reason to reject something, who cares if it’s telling a different story as long as that story is good
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awesmoe posted:That’s a super dumb reason to reject something, who cares if it’s telling a different story as long as that story is good See The Shining
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