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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Iain posted:

That's a gun coming out of the tree's right temple isn't it? Right? Am I the only one that sees that?

The tree of liberty is the constitution, that's the second amendment .... presumably, these people are insane.

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
Posting a Zyklon Ben without accompanying text is just incomplete:

quote:

“The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

We’ve all heard this quote from Thomas Jefferson, but the tree hasn’t been watered much during the existence of our Republic. Especially these days, when citizens have become accustomed to accepting the abuse of tyrants.

Too many have accepted the outright theft of a presidential election by the Democrat Socialists or Bolsheviks or whatever they call themselves these days. They are the Corruptocrat Party being nominally led by an ancient and very corrupt politician with dementia. His party took over our education system and now they want to cancel our history. They’ve pulled down our statues while claiming America is hopelessly evil. they want our Republic destroyed. They want a ‘great reset’ to socialism and globalism.

Our money has been corrupted by the left-leaning Federal Reserve central bankers. Marxism has canceled our culture, our families, and our holidays by means of leveraging lies about a virus. Some, such as Bill Gates, want to cancel humanity altogether.

If President Trump allows our election to be stolen by domestic criminals aided by foreign enemies, then our Republic is at an end. The voting process will become permanently corrupted. A sliver of billionaire and trillionaire elitists will control our elections and everything else. These are dark times and the Christmas star (Jupiter and Saturn aligned) portends an urgent need for action. President Trump has done some things such as his commendable vetoes of Pelosi’s pork-stuffed stimulus bill and the NDAA and massive defense spending. He has gifted pardons to Roger Stone and others, but he still needs to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden. Trump has stood up to China and the Swamp, but the latter remains undrained, thanks to feet draggers such as Jeff Sessions and William Barr.

We can’t allow our Republic to go gently into that goodnight of socialism and corruption. We can’t stand by while our jobs, our liberties, and our elections are brazenly stolen from us. It’s time for action, not just grumbling, sloganeering, and ’trusting the plan.’ It is now time to use the Insurrection Act and arrest the traitors. Yes, that will inevitably lead to bloodshed, but the Tree of Liberty is thirsty.

Merry Christmas,

GRRRGRAPHICS

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

That is even more incoherent than me getting drunk and trying to explain to a milquetoast republican how his politics are killing his children and turning them into nazis

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Iain posted:

Somewhere some four-star is like "Where we droppin now boys?!"

gently caress you Merry Christmas if you're still in. Get ready for a bag drag.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

i would guess the shots fired call was to get the police's attention

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
A couple days ago the local news threw this out, feds looking into a plot to take down substations and poo poo by neo-nazis. Don't remember seeing it here.

https://www.kktv.com/2020/12/23/lights-out-neo-nazi-plot-to-disable-power-grid-allegedly-included-attacking-sub-station-in-colorado/

I'd be curious if the idiots caught up by the feds on this are in any way affiliated with this poo poo in Nashville.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

A couple days ago the local news threw this out, feds looking into a plot to take down substations and poo poo by neo-nazis. Don't remember seeing it here.

https://www.kktv.com/2020/12/23/lights-out-neo-nazi-plot-to-disable-power-grid-allegedly-included-attacking-sub-station-in-colorado/

I'd be curious if the idiots caught up by the feds on this are in any way affiliated with this poo poo in Nashville.

I don’t know, to me Setting up up an explosive rigged RV with remote trigged audio set up seems a lot more complex than shooting at powerlines or substations.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

A couple days ago the local news threw this out, feds looking into a plot to take down substations and poo poo by neo-nazis. Don't remember seeing it here.

https://www.kktv.com/2020/12/23/lights-out-neo-nazi-plot-to-disable-power-grid-allegedly-included-attacking-sub-station-in-colorado/

I'd be curious if the idiots caught up by the feds on this are in any way affiliated with this poo poo in Nashville.

Here's more info.

quote:

The teen was in a text group with more than a dozen people in the fall of 2019 when he introduced the idea of saving money to buy a ranch where they could participate in militant training, according to the affidavit, which was filed under seal along with a search warrant application in Wisconsin’s Eastern U.S. District Court in March. The documents were inadvertently unsealed last week before the mistake was discovered and they were quickly sealed again.

The teenager wanted the group to be “operational” by the 2024 election because he believed it was likely a Democrat would win, but “the timeline for being operational would accelerate if President Trump lost the 2020 election,” according to the affidavit. An informant told investigators that the teen “definitely wanted to be operational for violence, but also activism.”

The Ohio teen, who was 17 at the time, also shared plans with a smaller group about a plot to create a power outage by shooting rifle rounds into power stations in the southeastern U.S. The teen called the plot “Light's Out” and there were plans to carry it out in the summer of 2021, the affidavit states.

One group member, a Texas native who was a Purdue University student at the time, allegedly sent the informant a text saying “leaving the power off would wake people up to the harsh reality of life by wreaking havoc across the nation.”

The document outlines how they communicated over encrypted messaging applications before three of them eventually met up in person. They also allegedly shared recommended reading on white supremacist literature, required a “uniform” to symbolize their commitment and talked about making weapons. The affidavit says the Ohio teen put Nazi flags in his room, but his mother told him to take them down.

I don't think these morons could put together something like the RV time bomb with automated warning.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Yeah, that's a good point. I'd read it a few days ago on the shitter and clearly the details didn't stick, just the headline.


Lol the ohio teen put up a nazi flag but his mom yelled at him to take it down. The gently caress is wrong with Ohio?

crazyivan45
Apr 30, 2008
I’m at my parents house in south Nashville and just got an automated call from the county saying 911 switchboards are offline and in case of an emergency to call stations directly. This is very odd

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


CRUSTY MINGE posted:

A couple days ago the local news threw this out, feds looking into a plot to take down substations and poo poo by neo-nazis. Don't remember seeing it here.

https://www.kktv.com/2020/12/23/lights-out-neo-nazi-plot-to-disable-power-grid-allegedly-included-attacking-sub-station-in-colorado/

I'd be curious if the idiots caught up by the feds on this are in any way affiliated with this poo poo in Nashville.

Reminds me of this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

crazyivan45 posted:

I’m at my parents house in south Nashville and just got an automated call from the county saying 911 switchboards are offline and in case of an emergency to call stations directly. This is very odd

The explosion knocked out ATT in Nashville, probably setoff the DC's Earthquake or Fire system which cut power.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

It’s because that VBIED was parked in front of an AT&T data center. The gas and electricity has been cut off to the building so it’s running on reduced capacity with generators.

Also someone please correct me or edit this out if it’s :nsa: otherwise but I don’t think it would be too difficult to build a simple initiator over a bunch of TATP and rig a countdown with a bluetooth speaker and a prerecorded message.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

pantslesswithwolves posted:

It’s because that VBIED was parked in front of an AT&T data center. The gas and electricity has been cut off to the building so it’s running on reduced capacity with generators.

Also someone please correct me or edit this out if it’s :nsa: otherwise but I don’t think it would be too difficult to build a simple initiator over a bunch of TATP and rig a countdown with a bluetooth speaker and a prerecorded message.

There's nothing simple about surviving the manufacture of significant quantities of TATP.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Also someone please correct me or edit this out if it’s :nsa: otherwise but I don’t think it would be too difficult to build a simple initiator over a bunch of TATP and rig a countdown with a bluetooth speaker and a prerecorded message.

Current rumor is they found a body in the wreckage, so....we'll see.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
Pretty sure the feds monitor significant purchases of precursor ingredients as well. Some dipshit jihadi wannabe was buying up tons of something, I think hydrogen peroxide or something, in Aurora Colorado, and was planning on attacking a bunch of targets including the NYC subway.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/05/03/aurora-terrorist-new-york-city-subway-bomb-plot/

This guy.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bored As gently caress posted:

Pretty sure the feds monitor significant purchases of precursor ingredients as well. Some dipshit jihadi wannabe was buying up tons of something, I think hydrogen peroxide or something, in Aurora Colorado, and was planning on attacking a bunch of targets including the NYC subway.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/05/03/aurora-terrorist-new-york-city-subway-bomb-plot/

This guy.

Yeah I feel like that’s been a thing ever since the Oklahoma City bombing and in that case they also changed a lot of commercial fertilizer so if I remember correctly they won’t function the same way. Probably had the effect of funneling people to fewer options, which from the law-enforcement perspective is actually pretty good, because it’s easier to track.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Bored As gently caress posted:

Pretty sure the feds monitor significant purchases of precursor ingredients as well. Some dipshit jihadi wannabe was buying up tons of something, I think hydrogen peroxide or something, in Aurora Colorado, and was planning on attacking a bunch of targets including the NYC subway.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/05/03/aurora-terrorist-new-york-city-subway-bomb-plot/

This guy.

Doesn't seem like Islamic though, Islamic extremists rarely if ever give warning.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

CommieGIR posted:

Doesn't seem like Islamic though, Islamic extremists rarely if ever give warning.

Well, they do tend to yell things right before hitting the switch, but not 15 minute warnings in english.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



CommieGIR posted:

Doesn't seem like Islamic though, Islamic extremists rarely if ever give warning.

The warning and timing both imply that the bomber mainly wanted to damage structures and equipment rather than simply hurt people.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

CommieGIR posted:

Doesn't seem like Islamic though, Islamic extremists rarely if ever give warning.

Yeah for sure, this thing screams RWNJ, Q-based bullshit, or sovcit bullshit.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
They often don't mind a body count either.

I mean, I just don't see right wingers or Qnatics or anyone on that side of the fence putting a warning and countdown on a bomb. They often want people hurt, especially city libs.

\/ valid point.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Dec 25, 2020

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

They often don't mind a body count either.

Depends on how far gone they are.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
My first thought as soon as I read it was next to an AT&T building was 5g covidiots.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Well, assuming the bomber went up with the RV, someone else is going to die simply for the ~unforgivable sin~ of making cops do paperwork on Christmas. :rolleyes:

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


BIG HEADLINE posted:

Well, assuming the bomber went up with the RV, someone else is going to die simply for the ~unforgivable sin~ of making cops do paperwork on Christmas. :rolleyes:

Just going to jump over the probability that this is sarcasm, but the cops showed up before the RV went up so it was presumably empty.

e: Cops were on scene, bomb squad was en route.

2e: I'm assuming the RV was stolen, but if they wanted to hit the AT&T building, it means they would have had to rig the thing to transfer most of the force in that direction. That would take time right?

SquirrelyPSU fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Dec 25, 2020

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Yes, it's sarcasm. I also saw somewhere that a body was rumored to be in the wreckage, but no confirmation of that.

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


not caring here posted:

Yo so where do we sign up for the weather underground?

Click me

Edit:

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

They often don't mind a body count either.

I mean, I just don't see right wingers or Qnatics or anyone on that side of the fence putting a warning and countdown on a bomb. They often want people hurt, especially city libs.

\/ valid point.

Bunch of trump poo poo stain supporters are handwaving and dismissing it as not dangerous because "bad people don't give warnings", which sounds an awful lot like they think it was one of their own.

Genocide Tendency fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Dec 25, 2020

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
If someone was in it, what's left of the RV to identify them from? The more I watch CNN, the more I'm convinced the only poo poo they'll find of that RV will be heavy poo poo like the rear axle and engine.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Maybe they'll find some teeth embedded in a tree down the road

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fallom posted:

Maybe they'll find some teeth embedded in a tree down the road

Yes I remember one thing they develope/refined in Iraq was an amazing ability to ID someone, based on very little to go with.

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1342571619068375040?s=21

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Dec 25, 2020

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


https://twitter.com/Do615Nashville/status/1342588091891134465?s=20

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Yes I remember one thing they develope/refined in Iraq was an amazing ability to ID someone, based on very little to go with.

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1342571619068375040?s=21

Wow. Taking out 911 infrastructure for 180 miles?

Maybe someone's robbing a bank somewhere?

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Bored As gently caress posted:

Wow. Taking out 911 infrastructure for 180 miles?

Maybe someone's robbing a bank somewhere?

I feel like a 911 network should have some manner of redundancy outside of one building.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

SquirrelyPSU posted:

I feel like a 911 network should have some manner of redundancy outside of one building.

This has happened a couple times the past few years, turns out they figured the networks were so reliable, they didn't need redundancy.

Oops.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


CommieGIR posted:

This has happened a couple times the past few years, turns out they figured the networks were so reliable, they didn't need redundancy.

Oops.

:stonk:

"Yes, our 911 System does not need a redundant backup in case of casualty"

A thing that is so preposterous that it makes my engineer brain throw up a little in my mouth.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Yeah, like America's Mayor putting NYC's "Command Center" in a building that had been bombed. :colbert:

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


BIG HEADLINE posted:

Yeah, like America's Mayor putting NYC's "Command Center" in a building that had been bombed. :colbert:

Meaning that they put the Command Center in one of the towers? Or they put it in Freedom Tower after it was constructed?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

SquirrelyPSU posted:

Meaning that they put the Command Center in one of the towers? Or they put it in Freedom Tower after it was constructed?

Giuliani moved it to the WTC not long before the attacks despite being warned not to do so, hamstringing the response when the 9/11 attacks happened.

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Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


SquirrelyPSU posted:

:stonk:

"Yes, our 911 System does not need a redundant backup in case of casualty"

A thing that is so preposterous that it makes my engineer brain throw up a little in my mouth.

it's finance-brain thinking. we see redundancy, tolerance, slack for handling surges and failures; they see capex, depreciation, an easy line item to eliminate. why prepare for disasters? they probably won't happen until after you're gone.

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