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Lurdiak posted:... of DOOM! *holds up spork*
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Katt posted:I blame Terry Pratchet and Douglas Adams for poisoning a whole generation of content creators with "randomness is always funny" I think Monty Python was the bigger offender.
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Dec 25, 2020 23:48
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Never read Pratchet but Adams never struck me as "random" in any sense.
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Republicans posted:Never read Pratchet but Adams never struck me as "random" in any sense. "Absurd" may be a better word for Pratchett and Adams, and absurdity sometimes looks random in the same way that modern art sometimes looks like a toddler made it.
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wizzardstaff posted:"Absurd" may be a better word for Pratchett and Adams, and absurdity sometimes looks random in the same way that modern art sometimes looks like a toddler made it. The best word is probably “bad”
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Yeah Invader Zim is probably the more likely cause, as well as being part of that group of kids who communicated almost entirely in Simpsons and Monty Python quotes.
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UZworm posted:I love the inclusion of the Jupiter-Saturn in there for absolutely no reason, just was in the middle of making his insane comic and was like "oh hey, this is topical" Agreed. Gaybees Nomination: Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:That’s it. Thank you.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:The best word is probably “bad”  woah look at this cool guy
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Dec 26, 2020 03:03
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a fatguy baldspot posted:The best word is probably “bad” I dunno how well Adams holds up but boy those books were good in jr. high.
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Leak, Son of Leak: China has an import ban on Australian seafood as part of the trade row, hence the cheap prices over Christmas.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:The best word is probably “bad” There is only one book from Adams that could be called bad and that one was where he admitted he was in a dark place in his personal life. The rest are some of the best absurdist / satire put to paper. British reader esp n the 70's and 80's would have gotten his targets like local councils, petty bureaucrats, cricket, Fleet Street and Murdoch, plus much more. Maybe it gets missed when it gets exported to the USA but most of British absurdist humour is actually very cutting social / political satire - also much of the absurdism has it roots in The Goon Show, which is a wonderfully daft radio serial from the 1950's that heavily influenced British comedy.
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Republicans posted:Never read Pratchet but Adams never struck me as "random" in any sense. quote:"Then what's happened to the missiles?" he said. A new and astounding image appeared in the mirrors. "They would appear," said Ford doubtfully, "to have turned into a bowl of petunias and a very surprised looking whale..."
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Dec 26, 2020 07:23
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Why it thinks that is actually a plot point in a later book.
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Dec 26, 2020 07:28
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kids growing up with said media lacked the ability to understand why it was so funny, and they just went with very surface level explanations such as “because it’s random.” Why such notions were never shed in adulthood could be blamed on a variety of reasons, from nerd media being held as sacrosanct and deeper critique shunned to western education typically not being great at teaching students how to understand writing and art in general.
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I mean what do you want with something called an improbability drive?
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OwlFancier posted:Why it thinks that is actually a plot point in a later book. This. It's also an absolutely absurd idea to run an FTL drive based on creating absolutely absurd coincidences and randomness. It's not lolrandom, it's randomness with a purpose, and the activation of the drive almost always results in some furtherance of the plot or some character development when the improbability affects the characters. Hell, Arthur and Ford are only on the ship because he and the other remaining human in existence chatted at a party, and what the hell are the odds that the only other living human in the universe is not only someone you have met, but is actually right here to rescue you? two to the power of 276,709 to one against In this case, the scene showcases the power of the drive to save the characters, but also the major dangers that the drive poses, and how activating it is not something that should be done trivially.
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Mm, the point of the series is kind of that the characters specifically encounter extremely unlikely situations, and have to respond to them. Which is also a similar point point in the first two discworld books, because the gods of fortune and fate keep pissing about with the main characters so they keep having extremely unlikely encounters that are resolved by equally unlikely methods.
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Random is having the petunias and whale appear. Absurd is then characterising them in their own brief story and having those events link to and drive others.
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Poor old Agrajag 
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I didn't get the "what's so unpleasant about being drunk" joke until a decade later. 
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Pants Donkey posted:
Then grab your ar15 and do it Garrison. Calls for blood and revolution are always answered by "well anytime then guy". Definitely more unhinged than usual here though and thats saying something in Garrisons case.
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Antigravitas posted:I didn't get the "what's so unpleasant about being drunk" joke until a decade later.
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Axetrain posted:Then grab your ar15 and do it Garrison. Calls for blood and revolution are always answered by "well anytime then guy". Definitely more unhinged than usual here though and thats saying something in Garrisons case. It's like the Freep thread. There's a ton of post like "IT'S TIME TO START SHOOTING FEDS!!!! (but not me, i have to mow the lawn this weekend)".
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Erenthal posted:It's like the Freep thread. There's a ton of post like "IT'S TIME TO START SHOOTING FEDS!!!! (but not me, i have to mow the lawn this weekend)". And Todd Roll. 
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Dec 26, 2020 13:09
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Captain Kosmos posted:And Todd Roll. What’s incorrect here aside from the art
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a fatguy baldspot posted:What’s incorrect here aside from the art He just does these "someone should do something, not me though" comics and compares them often to Nazis and resistance/jews. Edit: of course when people where doing something after the George Floyd killing he was complaining about that Captain Kosmos fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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a fatguy baldspot posted:What’s incorrect here aside from the art the artist
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Old Teddy boy is the grandfather of all whiney left wing web comics. You shell refer to him as 'Your pathetic lowness'
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Captain Kosmos posted:And Todd Roll.      
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Xander77 posted:"The only choice is violence, peaceful protest doesn't work. Not uh, not me though. I'm no good at the violence. Someone else do the violence" This pretty much reflects the overwhelming majority of the French resistance at the time. They only really stepped up their game once they realized that the nazis were going to lose the war. In truth they probably didn't shorten the war by a single day. The problem with the French of WW2 is that they not only surrendered to the nazi as a state. But as a people. They produced food for the nazis, worked in the nazi factories. Even the french Colonial forces in Africa served the nazis puppet regime. We like to poo poo on the French for surrendering but the magnitude of their almost total surrender is unimaginable. The entire nation just flipped a switch from service to France to service to the nazis.
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Katt posted:We like to poo poo on the French for surrendering but the magnitude of their almost total surrender is unimaginable. The entire nation just flipped a switch from service to France to service to the nazis. And you can't blame them for doing so. There never was an alternative.
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And according to a friend who toured France in the nineties, whenever the occupation comes up in conversation it turns out that absolutely nobody ever collaborated except old Mr. Vichy and his wife. Absolutely nobody.
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By popular demand posted:And according to a friend who toured France in the nineties, whenever the occupation comes up in conversation it turns out that absolutely nobody ever collaborated except old Mr. Vichy and his wife. Absolutely nobody. Denmark was similarly occupied, and I've never heard any stories about collaborators outside of the famous ones, but plenty of heroes. What a strange coincidence.
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Nenonen posted:And you can't blame them for doing so. There never was an alternative. They could have been less enthusiastic in their political and financial support. Certainly the mobile military units and ships could have defected to Britain. Especially colonial forces. This is mostly aimed at people in positions of power. Hell Philippe Pétain was a WW1 war hero most noted for as a first class defensive general defending France against Germany. But also workers volunteered to work in German factories in Germany with not too much duress. People in general were all very happy to hand over Jews when for example people in Denmark went through a lot of effort and risk to get Jews to safety.
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This one isn't calling for violence and is also 100% accurate
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Katt posted:This pretty much reflects the overwhelming majority of the French resistance at the time. They only really stepped up their game once they realized that the nazis were going to lose the war. ... But yeah - if and when psychohistory (or political psychology) becomes a real thing, France's experience in WWII will be a fascinating case study. VitalSigns posted:This one isn't calling for violence and is also 100% accurate Xander77 fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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Katt posted:They could have been less enthusiastic in their political and financial support. Certainly the mobile military units and ships could have defected to Britain. Especially colonial forces. They hated the British more than they hated the Germans so while some people suggested it, the French government didn't want to do it. And it's not like most Europeans really opposed Hitler's policies, mostly they were pretty happy to be rid of the Jews and trade unionists and other troublemakers. Nobody likes being conquered but after they lost the battle they had to surrender to somebody and it sure wasn't going to be the British
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I mean the Dutch famously just rolled over for the Germans, while desperately shouting NEUTRAL NEUTRAL to no avail. We had heroic people trying to save as many Jews and others marginalized groups as they could. But we also had pieces of poo poo joyfully working with the Nazis, like my own great (not so great) grandfather. Near enough every occupied territory did. People will do what seems best to them...America had a sizable nazi movement at the time...like, this is not new.
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