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Legally being unable to is a very different beast from choosing not to as well as Procrastinator's point of any compensation to him would be by definition under the table and thus denied by all parties. edit: This point was about the Ben Carter situation being super muddy and not really being something you could pull anything about AEW's payment culture about. karmicknight fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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Paying people working illegally under the table is also not good buisiness practice? 
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Wezlar posted:Paying people working illegally under the table is also not good buisiness practice? Yeah I realized my point wasn't clear, I meant more that the Ben Carter situation is so stupid and weird that trying to use it to read into AEW's business practices seems like a pointless endeavor. I think back to a half remembered episode of Cheap Seats where Wayne Grimditch was technically an amateur athlete who's winnings were going to go to an athletic club where he was the only member and go, well literally everything about athletics and paying them without paying them is muddy and stupid.
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ben carter is an outlier adn should not be counted
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Ben Carter should have made a fake athletic club and been an amateur professional wrestler.
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karmicknight posted:Yeah I realized my point wasn't clear, I meant more that the Ben Carter situation is so stupid and weird that trying to use it to read into AEW's business practices seems like a pointless endeavor. I think back to a half remembered episode of Cheap Seats where Wayne Grimditch was technically an amateur athlete who's winnings were going to go to an athletic club where he was the only member and go, well literally everything about athletics and paying them without paying them is muddy and stupid. That's fair. My original point wasn't even that I think the Ben Carter situation is indicative of their business practices as a whole, because I don't think it is, only that I would believe they would do some stuff that is at the very least questionable. And that I think stiffing someone 80 dollars intentionally is so petty that it's pretty hard to imagine them doing.
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davidbix posted:I don't believe the Rip/Flash/Bostic story, but I also don't think he's saying that they worked matches on Dark so much as they appeared as security guards or something. Alan Angels, for example, was used as an extra a bunch of times where you wouldn't have known it was him before he ever worked a match for AEW. (He was the "fan" who threw the drink at MJF at Full Gear 2019, for example.) And they've flown in a bunch of non-GA/FL workers for Dark, too, so bringing in a couple Indiana guys isn't a stretch in and of itself so much as: Call him. I want it to turn out he's confusing AEW with GCW.
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Tony Khan almost certainly handed Ben Carter a sneaky $500 bill or whatever. That Fightful interview where Carter revealed his visa situation and how that impacted his payment was the dumbest thing he could’ve done if not for the fact he probably already had the NXT UK deal in hand waiting for a signature (along with whatever AEW wanted to try and make happen), because none of his indie dates couldn’t have been legally paying him until that point either, and I doubt he was doing all of those for exposure either and broadcasting that shut the door on all of it.
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Dec 26, 2020 06:58
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bix please let us know how rip answers the phone
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Alleged Carny Tony Khan could not have legally paid Flash Flanagan because he’s a resident of Indiana
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Tony Khan almost certainly handed Ben Carter a sneaky $500 bill or whatever. His move was always to WWE. He knew exactly what he was doing. From a speculation standpoint, I believe AEW just knew that but wanted to see if he wanted to change his mind and impact that dream. Didn’t happen.
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Tony Khan almost certainly handed Ben Carter a sneaky $500 bill or whatever.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:Alleged Carny Tony Khan could not have legally paid Flash Flanagan because he’s a resident of Indiana As a resident of Indiana I can confirm this checks out.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:bix please let us know how rip answers the phone same, I had/have no clue who this guy is until I read his wikipedia and oh he's the guy that made the actual wrestling boring. quote:As head trainer for OVW, Rogers has been involved in training over thirty wrestlers who appeared in WWE or Impact Wrestling, notably including Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Mark Henry, Dave Bautista, and Randy Orton and unless he had a bad breakup with WWE, I'm sure he's a bootlicker and throwing around some $80 carny story from his days as a carny. gently caress it, book them for a $160 on a pole match to shut this gently caress up
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Still no answer on what shows these were or when they happened but the sum is staying carny appropriate https://twitter.com/Dylan_Bostic/status/1342588948418334721
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Still no answer on what shows these were or when they happened but the sum is staying carny appropriate they shorted him $80? I can't believe they'd short a guy like Dylan $120! How does AEW think they'll stay in business if they can't even pay wrestlers the $240 they owe them?
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Tony Khan owes me $42 and a Subway gift card with like nine bucks left on it like I was promised
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what i'd love is for it to be that they were in the audience for shows and wanted to be paid for their appearance
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it's all a true carny shoot-work to get "sorry about the acounting error bullshit, we'll give you a match on dark but wrestle, but work, but don't work?" and of course, the mother-load probably an ez $240 minus RIp's cut
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https://twitter.com/PKDX/status/1342804993917612035?s=20 I absolutely love Kongo group pictures with Nakajima just totally refusing to take part & sitting on the turnbuckle.
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Did you guys see Greg tore his pec? I bet that's why he looks so sad in those pics. Santa gave him a lovely torn pec for Christmas
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https://twitter.com/mocchy_117/status/1342828996199780352?s=20 For some reason Masaaki Mochizuki has been living in the DG Dojo for the past month. He says it's cool though because it let him talk to some of the trainees & get to know them.
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:“Way overqualified” to appear on one of two wrestling promotions on widely available cable networks’ flagship TV program. Yeah, that's his little dig that AEW wrestlers aren't "real" wrestlers. Rogers was also the guy who got torn a new one when he complained about wrestlers wearing kickpads, because he didn't understand the purpose of kickpads.
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Love this new gimmick Kenny is doing: https://twitter.com/kennyomegamanx/status/1342661226573291520?s=21
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Davros1 posted:Yeah, that's his little dig that AEW wrestlers aren't "real" wrestlers. Just remember, there is a large amount of people who want AEW to fail and WWE to continue to be the only game in town. There are entire communities dedicated to taking down any WWE competitors. Most of what I read from AEW fans are they want WWE to actually get better and not go away. WWE super diehards just want the competition to go away forever and never work again unless it’s with WWE.
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ICR posted:Just remember, there is a large amount of people who want AEW to fail and WWE to continue to be the only game in town. There are entire communities dedicated to taking down any WWE competitors. i want wwe to die and the mcmahons to go broke
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WWE is a toxic company ran by a rapist and his Nazi son in law and the wrestling business will never really heal while they're around. The company being shut down and Vince and Linda being put in prison would not only be good for wrestling, but the world.
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i don't particularly care if wwe exists but i do want the mcmahons to die in prison so take that as you will
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Oh no doubt to all that. I basically want leadership gone and a total change in culture and how they promote wrestling. It’s toxic. And maybe a new company to spawn from their breakup so more wrestlers have more opportunities. I am blown away at how much talent exists on the indies and they don’t even get a chance and their dreams ruined because one company said so. Just one.
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Anyone know what the deal is with this and the #FreeGCW hashtag anyone who’s ever been booked there is tweeting today? https://twitter.com/lauderdale11/status/1342891322693312512?s=21
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Anyone know what the deal is with this and the #FreeGCW hashtag anyone who’s ever been booked there is tweeting today? It seems to be related to WWE's attempt to trademark The Collective.
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Anyone know what the deal is with this and the #FreeGCW hashtag anyone who’s ever been booked there is tweeting today? Masters?? Like master tapes? Records? What??
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Masters?? Like master tapes? Records? What?? Master tapes, Brett probably didn't read the deal on the IWTV produced shows carefully.
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MassRafTer posted:Master tapes, Brett probably didn't read the deal on the IWTV produced shows carefully. It’s this. https://twitter.com/gcwrestling_/status/1342917414892281871
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