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F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

A Touch of Sin and Devils on the Doorstep are a couple of my faves.

I still need to see The Story of Qiu Ju by Yimou Zhang, about a woman who goes on an epic journey for an apology from the gov't after a local official kicks her husband in the balls

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Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1342832155710275584

3 years

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

build it and they will come

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



specially if the first thing you build is the infrastructure to actually get there in the first place

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

Chomskyan posted:

Keep these links to Chinese movies coming. I really enjoyed this one

one of my favorites is Kaili Blues by Bi Gan. theres like a 40 minute one shot scene that follows the characters in the village thats so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82ku8Q--Cw

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNpRbNdR7E

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

smh at building transit when you could have endless seas of beautiful independent uber contractors

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

THS posted:

the only non-HK chinese film ive seen is wolf warrior

probably should branch out a little more on that...

Taiwanese cinema is some of the best in the world bro

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

mistermojo posted:

one of my favorites is Kaili Blues by Bi Gan. theres like a 40 minute one shot scene that follows the characters in the village thats so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82ku8Q--Cw

Bi Gan is the hot 'young' director in China now but his films are pretentious trash

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I work in Cinema and moved to Taiwan and went to China after for my work in Cinema and I'm extremely going to gatekeep and tastemake chinese films

edit: You wanna watch some good artsy poo poo you watch Tsai Ming-Liang or if you wanna start with good, current generation, mainland films watch Lou Ye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbzblq3b1Z8

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 20:53 on Dec 26, 2020

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013




Los Angeles built a trolley system before they even had housing built. Kind of ironic with the way transportation is in CA now.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

cenotaph posted:

Los Angeles built a trolley system before they even had housing built. Kind of ironic with the way transportation is in CA now.

Then the automobile and oil companies brought up the streetcar systems in LA and NY and killed them deliberately.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

stephenthinkpad posted:

Then the automobile and oil companies brought up the streetcar systems in LA and NY and killed them deliberately.

Yeah, there was even a subway tunnel that led into downtown LA... and by the late 1960s they had made it unusable. Also, even if the argument was that streetcars weren't efficient of surface streets, there were a ton of right-of-ways that could been utilized and most of the system could have been save rather than dismantled. It is an old story, but instructive.

That said, if you look at the current state of public transit in the US, it really isn't that different than it was back then. Besides a few lights-rail projects, most of the US' major systems have been left to rot for decades at this point ( NYC Subway, DC Metro, SEPTA or MBTA etc). LA has been struggle to rebuild since the 1980s and the system is still skeletal.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

stephenthinkpad posted:

Then the automobile and oil companies brought up the streetcar systems in LA and NY and killed them deliberately.

this but also every city in america... "In 1902, there were 21,902 miles of street railway tracks throughout the United States, with 97 percent of all lines powered by electricity." The auto industry argued that if cities switched to buses and turned trolly track into more roadway, the mass transit could share infrastructure with private transit, and it would reduce city costs (and get a bunch of free infrastructure to support the auto industry as well as sell buses).



Here is the last street car in minneapolis being burned while a check to General Motors for the purchase of 525 buses is handed over by the head of Twin Cities Rapid Transit.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Ardennes posted:

Yeah, there was even a subway tunnel that led into downtown LA... and by the late 1960s they had made it unusable. Also, even if the argument was that streetcars weren't efficient of surface streets, there were a ton of right-of-ways that could been utilized and most of the system could have been save rather than dismantled. It is an old story, but instructive.

That said, if you look at the current state of public transit in the US, it really isn't that different than it was back then. Besides a few lights-rail projects, most of the US' major systems have been left to rot for decades at this point ( NYC Subway, DC Metro, SEPTA or MBTA etc). LA has been struggle to rebuild since the 1980s and the system is still skeletal.

60 years after Streetcars , now people in NY and LA are buying e-loving-bikes to deal with the sub-20mph rush hour highway congestion.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

sorry to post again but this reply is just so apt

https://twitter.com/JTone2_/status/1342879437222637569

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



Ardennes posted:

Yeah, there was even a subway tunnel that led into downtown LA... and by the late 1960s they had made it unusable. Also, even if the argument was that streetcars weren't efficient of surface streets, there were a ton of right-of-ways that could been utilized and most of the system could have been save rather than dismantled. It is an old story, but instructive.

That said, if you look at the current state of public transit in the US, it really isn't that different than it was back then. Besides a few lights-rail projects, most of the US' major systems have been left to rot for decades at this point ( NYC Subway, DC Metro, SEPTA or MBTA etc). LA has been struggle to rebuild since the 1980s and the system is still skeletal.
In Scranton, the home of the first electric streetcars in the US, we had cool poo poo like parks at the end of lines just so people had somewhere to go on them. None of it exists any more. They also ripped up the Laurel Line between here and Wilkes-Barre to build the interstate and now it's overloaded with commuters all the time. They've expanded it as far as it can go because it's on the top of the mountain and it's still overloaded. Just an amazing system.

You can take a rail car from the inconveniently located trolley museum to a AAA baseball game, though!

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Antonymous posted:

Taiwanese cinema is some of the best in the world bro

https://twitter.com/davidehrlich/status/1338973353038802944

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

yah A Sun is really good

sleep with the vicious
Apr 2, 2010
are there any good book recommendations on the structure of the economy and politics of modern (2010's-on) china that aren't written by either western fake-marxists or journalists from the economist

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Throatwarbler posted:

That whole narrative makes no sense because Chinese sovereignty over Tibet was never in in dispute by anyone until the big bad communists came about. Is Texas being invaded by America on Jan 20 because some Texans don't like Joe Biden?

I mean you could consistently argue both and something to the effect of well maybe the Congress of Vienna model of nation states should just be, like, abolished man but that's not why the CIA is training Tibetan jihadists.

What complicates this is that Tibet was de facto independent between about 1912 and 1949 after rebelling against the Qing during Sun Yat-sen's revolt. Prior to 1905 it was also mostly ignored by the Qing until Catholic missionaries/Qing officials started getting massacred in Batang by Yellow Sect Buddhists, which came right after the British massacred a bunch of Tibetans and tried to turn Tibet into a British protectorate in 1904 (even demanding a massive indemnity for not accepting the wonderful and beneficent British Empire). And then the dying Qing Empire only really tried to reassert its control of the restive Tibet in 1910. Tibet even invaded China at the tail end of its warlord era around 1930 and tried to capture parts of Qinghai and Sichuan.

The regional politics are even more complicated with Outer Tibet hating the Dalai Lamas' guts with most people there supporting the anti-feudal Tibet Improvement Party (which received Kuomintang aid), supporting a "Kham" state independent of both Tibet and China (but were way more pro-China), and the ninth Panchen Lama being exiled for supporting China and being in the modernizing faction of Tibetan politics. The tenth one even sided with the commies when they invaded in 1949.

Yossarian-22 has issued a correction as of 07:54 on Dec 27, 2020

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Antonymous posted:

sorry to post again but this reply is just so apt

https://twitter.com/JTone2_/status/1342879437222637569

https://twitter.com/Karl_Was_Right/status/1342921082722914304
i liked this one best

e: it'd have been even better if that cctv camera was there at the start tho :v:

Truga has issued a correction as of 08:08 on Dec 27, 2020

Bathtub Cheese
Jun 15, 2008

I lust for Chinese world conquest. The truth does not matter before the supremacy of Dear Leader Xi.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/27/technology/ant-group-china-regulation.html

Imagine something like this ever happening in the US. The "neither Washington nor Beijing" set will be sweating bullets trying to explain why this happened.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

drat, i wish my country built things :(

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1343178518964760579?s=19

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011


I wonder which GBS poster this is

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Bathtub Cheese posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/27/technology/ant-group-china-regulation.html

Imagine something like this ever happening in the US. The "neither Washington nor Beijing" set will be sweating bullets trying to explain why this happened.

Not to burst any bubbles here, but Facebook is facing up to antitrust action too.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/tech/facebook-antitrust-lawsuit-what-to-know/index.html

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


bipartisan going after facebook is funny. It took Dems blaming Facebook for fake news and Republicans blaming them for "censorsing" content when all the top political content is Breitbart, OAN, Shapiro poo poo (because the platform is overrun by boomers).

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
so as a paradox mapgame dude, i love these military anthems. but this one caught my attention because of (a) how bombastic and "red" it is and (b) the appearance of the main singers who do not look like military officers to me at all, but ryan seacrest T.V. hosts with nice hairdos and facelifts. are these guys in the military or are they just playing dressup? does anyone know? if it's just dressup, then that's real 21st century leninism. there can be no separation between the people and their army. it is only right that the T.V. hosts help to erode this distinction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJaQBjMlhyk

Bathtub Cheese
Jun 15, 2008

I lust for Chinese world conquest. The truth does not matter before the supremacy of Dear Leader Xi.

Not So Fast posted:

Not to burst any bubbles here, but Facebook is facing up to antitrust action too.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/tech/facebook-antitrust-lawsuit-what-to-know/index.html

Not really analogous at all. Ironically Facebook is facing antitrust action out of a bipartisan agreement to pursue both their bad-faith political agendas, something the Western press has falsely suggested China did by going after Ant. Ma's businesses are like Amazon, a financial services firm, and a ubiquitous digital payments monopoly all rolled into one. Facebook is a digital propaganda and envy generator used to sell ads.

Bathtub Cheese has issued a correction as of 19:36 on Dec 27, 2020

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy


Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

so as a paradox mapgame dude, i love these military anthems. but this one caught my attention because of (a) how bombastic and "red" it is and (b) the appearance of the main singers who do not look like military officers to me at all, but ryan seacrest T.V. hosts with nice hairdos and facelifts. are these guys in the military or are they just playing dressup? does anyone know? if it's just dressup, then that's real 21st century leninism. there can be no separation between the people and their army. it is only right that the T.V. hosts help to erode this distinction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJaQBjMlhyk

The PLA has bands and "arts" detachments just like every other military in the world?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Was xi's wife in the army?

LibCrusher
Jan 6, 2019

by Fluffdaddy
incredibly depressing to me that China can build whole new cities and factories and trains and airports and HSR constantly over the whole country, and the only things getting built in the US are single family homes and Amazon warehouses.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
that’s not fair, the us also builds prisons!

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

LibCrusher posted:

incredibly depressing to me that China can build whole new cities and factories and trains and airports and HSR constantly over the whole country, and the only things getting built in the US are single family homes and Amazon warehouses.

dont forget empty 5-over-1 condos that cost 3k a month

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
America build high concept business model (i.e. Wework)

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/cpimspeak/status/1343215698932219904

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwyB5GdBbzg

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 00:36 on Dec 28, 2020

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/Deadpreacher/status/1342865111720067074

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
big in japan

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