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Ewan posted:It's OK. It's all going to get fixed by $900bn of trade deals! This is what Brexit is going to be. The Express telling people that we're actually loads better off than ever before while their readers nod sagely despite having no food after paying £8,000 for a bout of tonsillitis.
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Cerv posted:yes. unless you have a particularly large suitcase. £390 of goods bought on holiday allowed before you need to declare for customs duty. I dunno, you could still save yourself a couple of hundred quid on a booze cruise vs UK prices if you max out that allowance. I did buy considerably more than that to stock up for my wedding a few years ago, though, so obviously can't do that anymore.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:The Greens have just created the gold standard of awkward standoffs. I've had (E&W) Greens swear blind that they've not got issues with transphobia 
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stev posted:This is what Brexit is going to be. The Express telling people that we're actually loads better off than ever before while their readers nod sagely despite having no food after paying £8,000 for a bout of tonsillitis. thanks to the triple lock they’re immune from any consequence tho
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goddamnedtwisto posted:All of those stories got posted here, nobody commented on them apart from the ASCII thing. Yeah, fair enough. I’m definitely a little on edge so perhaps a little snappier than usual. Re: Brexit deal. It’s fun because we sort of knew what might happen with a full on softy, a full on hard ndb, but with this mishmash I’m really not sure. It’s a cliffhanger folks!
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I became a green politician to uh... defend the concept of biological sex
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Its kind of the problem with the green party. Like you can be green but also... kind of UKIP aligned or I dunno anything.
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Oh, apparently the TERF was co-chair last year too. Fantastic 
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Cerv posted:yes. unless you have a particularly large suitcase. £390 of goods bought on holiday allowed before you need to declare for customs duty. I mean that is still Quite A Lot of booze
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feedmegin posted:I mean that is still Quite A Lot of booze
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Communist Thoughts posted:I became a green politician to uh... defend the concept of biological sex goddamnedtwisto posted:I completely agree it's not dumb to mock the general "can we just stop things getting worse, a little bit" self-imposed limit to the ambition of the middle-class liberal, and to use that as a jumping-off point for a conversation about why and how they've got to that mindset and how it affects our political and media class. Gonzo McFee posted:25 years ago there was a considerable amount of art made about the existential dread of having a job that was too stable and mundane and the blandness of every need being met and living in comfort. These fuckers don't even have the dream of getting back to that. They view "Never Dream" not only as pragmatic but aspirational. e: I suppose coming from the complete other end there's Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a loving big television 
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Regarde Aduck posted:[[Spoiler warning]] Extremely good post but you've accidently made my point for me. The game pretends that ideologies can be played, in fact it presents an entire psychosocial skill set that mechanically creates a system where ideologies and the underpinning thought structures could be used combatitively, but then just nopes almost everything besides what it intends the player to do. Imagine a Baldurs Gate or an Icewind Dale that gave the same range of character options but if you play anything but a tru-nu Druid you just automatically lose every fight, and the game compensates for that by adding an 'okay i surrender i suck' dialogue every time you lose? You'd rightfully ask what the point of all that mechanical pretence was. The character you bring up is a great example of how the game has great ideas but shits the bed. The dialogue where the guy lists out all these fictional races and their failings is legit a perfect indictment of racism because it's a meaningless series of nouns to the player, you don't give a poo poo about those nouns and oh-snap maybe real world racial distinctions are just as fundamentally meaningless? It's really good but then they ruin it, if you haven't built your character around beating that specific early skill check then your only actual option to progess is to sublimate to the woke racism of it and that just sucks, it's not clever anymore it honestly reads like this black-coded character might not actually be "Semenese" after all. The argument that 'oh it's really a character study' is just a cop out, Lara Croft in Tomb Raider 2013 is as competent a character study as DE it just wasn't as pretentious about it and has consistently more satisfying/supportive gameplay mechanics too. Vitamin P fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Eddie Izzard has changed her pronouns so of course the LGB Alliance are all upset that she hurt their feefees. Spoiler for LGB Assholes comments: https://twitter.com/charlotte2153/status/1343661240887996417?s=09
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Guavanaut posted:Large offshore wind and large immobile gametes! Would deffo choose heroin over liberalism. I doubt there's a party in this midden that doesn't have at least a vocal minority of prominent members who are transphobic bigots unfortunately. It's garbage but that is Britain for you, garbage
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Quoted in totality because the tweet snapshot misses bits:Marie Le Conte, journalist, presumed hated posted:What I’ve learnt from 2020 The author, I think, is evoking the feeling of how 2020 has been a year of tension between two magnetic poles and of our inability to see clearly while still pinned between them. Our lives have been somehow in paralysis, yet also rushing forward. Compare the changes in the author's life before and after. From "underwhelming sandwich" to "a nice and healthy lunch". From tiredness "on the verge of collapse" to "bed at a reasonable time". The phrasing is of wistful reminiscence, but the words describe a ghastly former life. And that feeling, so obviously ridiculous yet so hard to ignore "This year has not changed me one bit; I have not grown, or evolved". At face value the article might ask "why can't I go back", but that's so contradicted in the text we have to look deeper to find sense, and if we do that we find a more interesting question: Why don't I feel like I've gone forward?
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forkboy84 posted:Would deffo choose heroin over liberalism. It compared it to the Hudson's Bay Company, where workers from throughout Britain would usually become alcoholics upon arriving in the divided, atomized, isolated environment of work work and provide your own other entertainment, so they tried switching to employees from Orkney, who had a reputation for sobriety and were used to high northern latitudes. Who would usually become alcoholics upon arriving in the company towns. And then stop being so after a week of being very ill if they managed long enough to be returned to Orkney.
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Endjinneer posted:Quoted in totality because the tweet snapshot misses bits: She just loving sucks op
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https://twitter.com/MarkOneinFour/status/1336925052227497986 The UK is just an elaborate money laundering scheme where I have to live.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/MarkOneinFour/status/1336925052227497986 This is properly staggering. I wonder if that capacity was then quietly used by the private providers when they realised they weren’t going to be getting any additional NHS patients.
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Guavanaut posted:Thread movie (and books, comics and other art) time, I can think of Fight Club, The Matrix, Office Space, American Psycho (kinda) as 90s "one must imagine Sisyphus snappy" type things. American Beauty is the absolute pinnacle of that kind or self-absorbed middle class angst.
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think there may not be a worse human being than priti patel
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VileLL posted:think there may not be a worse human being than priti patel The people who've looked at her work and public statements and said 'yes I will put this person in a position of power again'.
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Jakabite posted:This is properly staggering. I wonder if that capacity was then quietly used by the private providers when they realised they weren’t going to be getting any additional NHS patients. More likely when they mean capacity it's actually "hypothetical capacity we would have if we contract in all NHS staff to work when they should be sleeping". This is like, business as usual nowadays though. Overpromise and then pray you don't get asked to deliver/poo poo a brick if you do. If the penalty clauses aren't severe, there's no real downside to it. The worst that'll happen is you get paid for what you actually do deliver, and some reputational damage which is meaningless when you hold a scarce resource.
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Jakabite posted:This is properly staggering. I wonder if that capacity was then quietly used by the private providers when they realised they weren’t going to be getting any additional NHS patients. On the other hand, most doctors who work for private hospitals consider their work for the NHS as their 'primary' employment. Given the stresses they've been under as part of their regular work, can I blame them for not putting themselves forwards for shifts when they could be getting some valuable downtime? No, I can't. Can I blame the Govt for funnelling vast sums of money to the cunts who run private healthcare in this country? Yes, I loving well can.
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Oh absolutely, not blaming the doctors or anyone else working on the ground at all. Every time you think they can’t get more blatant about it, they do. It’s impressive.
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Gonzo McFee posted:She just loving sucks op Can you elaborate? A quick scan of her articles shows some output which is definitely UKMT-adjacent and some things which aren't. But then it's all probably written to a brief if she wants to pay the leccy bill anyway. This thread is a really useful resource of opinions and perspectives that I don't otherwise encounter IRL. When they're explained, they've helped me understand and persuade others.
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Gonzo McFee posted:She just loving sucks op Honestly yeah. She's just another lovely lib. I can't point you to any specific stuff because it's not like I keep a database of this poo poo (maybe I should start). Those of us ripping on her for posting this latest poo poo are looking at it through that lens. She is a lovely lib, let's not give her the benefit of the doubt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD1XDhKr8U
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Endjinneer posted:Can you elaborate? A quick scan of her articles shows some output which is definitely UKMT-adjacent and some things which aren't. But then it's all probably written to a brief if she wants to pay the leccy bill anyway. She's a never Corbyn liberal who just wrote an article about how she would trade her comfy middle class life for the dumb bullshit that ordinary people are still having to do. "oh I can do my entire job from home but what I wouldn't give to be back in the rat race like everyone that never stopped for." You think you've added context that makes her look better, but you've made her look worse.
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Endjinneer posted:Quoted in totality because the tweet snapshot misses bits: And that is why it is pathetic. If you ask me what I want to go back to normal, what I have not been able to do this year, I want to be able to go to the beach during summer and spend another few days in the fleeting yet blissful embrace of nature, surrounded by other happy people doing the same, I want to be able to hug my friends again, I want to be able to be with people facing death and be able to at least hold their goddamn hand rather than sitting at the other side of the room looking sad. I do not think "oh I wish I could buy lovely sandwiches again". A person whose reflections on the year amount to that is living the single most pathetic life I can imagine, it is revolting, repulsive, this isn't a person who isn't suffering with depression which I could sympathise with, this is a person who has simply nothing else in their life than animalistic consumption of the most miserable poo poo. And they realise that it is poo poo, and instead of thinking "perhaps I can be better" they reject that and say that no, they like being a grunting pig with their face in the slop, the true affront is the suggestion that they could or should be otherwise. Even a better form of consumption, a form that makes them happier, they explicitly reject and demand a return to the worse form because it is familiar. That we all return to it so that they can. And this, from somebody whose literal job is to have creative thoughts and to write about them. What a waste, what an absolute travesty of supposed merit that a person who thinks this has that job. And at the same time, how completely, perfectly emblematic it is of the profession, because that is what they all write, all think, all of the time. We have an entire industry of people whose job is to do that. And yet they all constantly assure each other and the rest of us that they are having creative ideas, worthwhile ideas. It is an industry, a society, full of idiots, convinced they are brilliant. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Who was that guardian columnist who wrote about how much she missed working in an office as an argument for getting everyone to go back to the office before it came out that not only did they not work in an office, they had been working from home for about ten years? Because I'm getting similar feelings to this article.
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Lol he's so bad at this https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/28/starmer-high-profile-labour-rebellion-brexit-deal-vote The Guardian posted:Keir Starmer is facing a high-profile rebellion against Labour’s Brexit position on the eve of the vote in parliament, as prominent MPs including John McDonnell and Clive Lewis accused him of “falling into the trap of rallying around this rotten deal”. My MP has been sounding out LP members in her constituency about how she should vote and since this is one of the remainiest places in the country I'll be interested to see what feedback she gets and whether she'll dare to stray from the whip in the end.
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It would be nice if there was an oppostition party leader who opposed the government, a shame that it can never happen again due to anti semitism
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Jakabite posted:This is properly staggering. I wonder if that capacity was then quietly used by the private providers when they realised they weren’t going to be getting any additional NHS patients. There is physical capacity and there is staffing capacity. Much of what was bought was physical capacity since the private sector in the UK largely comprises of (1) buildings where NHS consultants do private work in and (2) a few scattered independent providers. Physical capacity was very useful in creating green zones for ongoing elective capacity during the original covid hit by keeping all the COVID in the local hospital while the knees/hips/cataracts etc go to the Spire. It doesn't actually increase the number of boots on the ground in any meaningful way and most trusts are struggling for lack of staff rather than infrastructure due to PFI. So when things wound down after the 1st peak, all the elective work just went back to base. No department will use (2) if they can help it as they have a reputation of being less reliable if they're truly independent (and the overseeing department will have to take on the governance burden - I.e. they gently caress up the contracting dept has to clean up. In general doctors are paid sufficiently well that you won't need to take on extra work on top of an already stressful nhs contract unless you're responsible for Boris Johnson levels of alimony. It's just another opportunity to gently caress up your mental health and/or career. Nurses are underpaid and overworked so I can't see the appeal of doing more of the same poo poo for pennies. This isn't like doing double shifts flipping burgers, mistakes can and will gently caress up.your career.
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Cerv posted:yes. unless you have a particularly large suitcase. £390 of goods bought on holiday allowed before you need to declare for customs duty. as someone who has flown multiple times with a spare suitcase filled with olive oil - thank god
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Guavanaut posted:I've been reading some interesting research about opium use in pre-industrial England and it turns out that the liberalism might be what makes the heroin dangerous. Like that study they did about how rats recovered from Heroin use much easier when they were in groups to provide support.
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mfcrocker posted:I've had (E&W) Greens swear blind that they've not got issues with transphobia It's almost like these issues are deep rooted in politicians tbh..
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Just confirms that Starmer is following Ed Milliband's path into irrelevancy through continual timid, nervous triangulation. Looking at the media stuff Labour's putting out now, I get such a strong sense of 'going through the motions'. It feels like people who've already written off the next election and are treading water, waiting for something to come up.
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