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Leavemywife posted:So, what does that mean? sharknado slashfic posted:I'm not a law talker but it appears that the republican senate is either going to give everyone $2000 or explain to everyone why they didn't give them $2000. Two separate things. The $600 --> $2000 bill is now in the Senate. It needs to clear the 60-vote filibuster hurdle, then pass on a majority vote, then get signed by the President. No idea what happens there - sounds like Schumer/Bernie are going to force a vote on that this week. The NDAA (funding the Defense Department, though the people were covered in the covid-omnibus) got vetoed and kicked back to Congress. The House voted to override the veto (needed 2/3rds majority), so now that's in the Senate for their veto override vote (needs 2/3rds majority). Mitch wanted to vote on this veto override and get the gently caress out of town, but it sounds like Schumer/Bernie won't let him. Republicans really, really don't want to take that $2K vote. The deadlines on these two things are January 3rd, when the Congress expires. On January 4th, those actions die - the $2K would have to be reintroduced and the NDAA would have to start again brand-new. https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1343714583287115777 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Abongination posted:I got about two paragraphs in before my eyes rolled into my head I couldn't continue reading about celebrity gossip. Is there anything to that beyond someone talking with an accent sometimes and twitter trying to cancel them? I think she also pretended to be Spanish and she’s actually from somewhere in Suburban Massachusetts (though her dad was an academic focused on Spanish and her grandfather...was an auditor for GE in Argentina...which is lols too), and dumb Alec response too. It’s extremely dumb, but still funny for bizarreness, but I also don’t blame you for feeling like your brain might fall out reading.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:I think she also pretended to be Spanish and she’s actually from somewhere in Suburban Massachusetts (though her dad was an academic focused on Spanish and her grandfather...was an auditor for GE in Argentina...which is lols too), and dumb Alec response too. The whole thing is hilarias.
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Midjack posted:The whole thing is hilarias. 
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Mr. Nice! posted:When the senate votes to override tomorrow that Trump's NDAA veto doesn't matter and the bill goes into law. This means changing the names of bases etc. facialimpediment posted:Two separate things. The $600 --> $2000 bill is now in the Senate. It needs to clear the 60-vote filibuster hurdle, then pass on a majority vote, then get signed by the President. No idea what happens there - sounds like Schumer/Bernie are going to force a vote on that this week. Okay, that makes more sense. And while I'm asking questions, section 230 was the internet bill that could have really hosed over (or will gently caress over) streamers and stuff, right?
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Leavemywife posted:Okay, that makes more sense. And while I'm asking questions, section 230 was the internet bill that could have really hosed over (or will gently caress over) streamers and stuff, right? 230 is the one that keeps Trump from suing Twitter over me logging on and typing 'Trump is stinky poo poo'. The streamer one is just going right on ahead without a second look from any but the most left - but I've read things that indicate it is actually a little more intelligently structured than initial impressions and actually does mostly target crackstreams and stuff like that as opposed to someone playing Smash on Twitch. It seems still a little up in the air.
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Leavemywife posted:Okay, that makes more sense. And while I'm asking questions, section 230 was the internet bill that could have really hosed over (or will gently caress over) streamers and stuff, right? Yeah, as it stands it's basically legal codification that a) what users of a service do isn't considered publishing under the name of the owners of the service, and b) owners of a service are exempt from civil liabilities under good samaritan rules for removing user-generated content they consider obscene or harmful. Trump wanted section 230 repealed because it protects Twitter from civil liabilities for them slapping "(!) This claim about election fraud is disputed" on everything he tweets.
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Leavemywife posted:Okay, that makes more sense. And while I'm asking questions, section 230 was the internet bill that could have really hosed over (or will gently caress over) streamers and stuff, right? No. Section 230 makes twitter liable for tweets. There's two other bills, one that is designed to gently caress over big pirates, and another one which allows a rights holder to take a copyright infringer to small claims court to recover damages. I don't know what the threshold for determining a viable case is on the low end, but it's probably going to be something stupid like people who are getting DMCAed for cop sirens and poo poo. Patware posted:The streamer one is just going right on ahead without a second look from any but the most left - but I've read things that indicate it is actually a little more intelligently structured than initial impressions and actually does mostly target crackstreams and stuff like that as opposed to someone playing Smash on Twitch. It seems still a little up in the air. It's actually two bills, one, the Felony Streaming Act, goes after big time streaming sites that stream pirated content illegally, like iwatchmovies or about half the poo poo on Kodi. The other one, the CASE Act, royally fucks any small person who happens to have copyrighted material in their streams, as it allows rights holders to basically destroy you financially for a mistake. EFF.org posted:The CASE Act purports to be a simple fix to the complicated problem of online copyright infringement. In reality, it creates an obscure, labyrinthine system that will be easy for the big players to find the way out of. The new “Copyright Claims Board” in the Copyright Office would be empowered to levy large penalties against anyone accused of copyright infringement. The only way out would be to respond to the Copyright Office—in a very specific manner, within a limited time period. Regular Internet users, those who can’t afford the $30,000 this “small claims” board can force you to pay, will be the ones most likely to get lost in the shuffle. orange juche fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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trump being mad about 230 kinda boggles the mind when it would make trump himself hosed over what he posts
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ded posted:trump being mad about 230 kinda boggles the mind when it would make trump himself hosed over what he posts Nuh-uh! He's the president and the president can't get in trouble for anything as long as they're the president and since he won the election he's the president. So there. Is what I'm assuming he thinks.
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Midjack posted:assuming he thinks. Mighty bold assertion there.
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Space Force is already giving the Marines a run for their dragon-slaying money. https://twitter.com/GraceSpelman/status/1343558585536679936
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facialimpediment posted:Two separate things. The $600 --> $2000 bill is now in the Senate. It needs to clear the 60-vote filibuster hurdle, then pass on a majority vote, then get signed by the President. No idea what happens there - sounds like Schumer/Bernie are going to force a vote on that this week. Go Bernie go!
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Facebook is probably the most effective conservative radicalization engine on Earth and so naturally conservatives want to destroy it to own the libs. God if only they'd succeed.
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Patware posted:parler's only pulling in people who have already taken the worm I posit that further radicalization is possible beyond that point.
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Patware posted:well then the question is, is it more effective to hyper-radicalize a captive audience or to moderately radicalize an untold amount of people who were previously only kind of lovely Moderate radicalization is a prelude to hyper-radicalization. Anti-vax and Soros conspiracy theories lead to QAnon worship and bombing AT&T Long Lines COs.
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Lure them in with Facebook, the everyone-has-it accepted-everywhere social network. The size and ubiquity of the platform makes it easier for people to let their guard down. Once you have them hooked, follow up with some low-effort conspiracies and go on about how you're being silenced, directing people further into the cult. No need to focus only on those in deepest if you can keep the draw going.
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Q works because you can let someone incorporate any conspiracy they believe in into it by saying, "just look it up."
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Zamujasa posted:Lure them in with Facebook, the everyone-has-it accepted-everywhere social network. The size and ubiquity of the platform makes it easier for people to let their guard down. Once you have them hooked, follow up with some low-effort conspiracies and go on about how you're being silenced, directing people further into the cult. Facebook is the gateway drug It really always was projection
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Did they use WCW polling rules where 1 vote for Goldberg is 10 votes for Hogan?
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The Hotel Harrington, an iconic low-cost tourist hotel in downtown DC a few blocks from the White House, and the adjacent Harry’s Bar, a bar popular with chuds (and unpopular with their black and brown staff who had to wait on them) which served as the Proud Boy’s Secret Clubhouse will be closed for Trump’s last stand and now the chuds are PISSED. https://mobile.twitter.com/willsommer/status/1343752428609556483 You love to see it! 
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nwin posted:What the? First past the post is a real bastard.
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https://twitter.com/mallorygharris/status/1343951754594017280?s=21 Oh man if we actually get this, it’s going to be hilarious (and great), but still super lol. Not complaining about it mind you.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Hahaha Perdue did too this morning. Oh man if we actually get this, it’s going to be hilarious (and great), but still super lol. Don't get your hopes up. I'd say McConnell is indirectly going to kill the thing by tacking on bullshit. Should know more in a few hours. https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/1343952056214827010
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pantslesswithwolves posted:The Hotel Harrington, an iconic low-cost tourist hotel in downtown DC a few blocks from the White House, and the adjacent Harry’s Bar, a bar popular with chuds (and unpopular with their black and brown staff who had to wait on them) which served as the Proud Boy’s Secret Clubhouse will be closed for Trump’s last stand and now the chuds are PISSED. Holy poo poo they made a reddit clone and named it The Donald after /r/the_donald got banned?
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RFC2324 posted:Holy poo poo they made a reddit clone and named it The Donald after /r/the_donald got banned? Not quite - the_donald basically exiled themselves from reddit willingly and made an offshoot before Reddit took any kind of action. When Reddit banned the_donald, they were basically killing an already-dead corpse. It used to be that taxation is theft, but the line now is that moderation is tyranny. For content: https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1343925695127449601 WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE? facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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facialimpediment posted:Don't get your hopes up. I'd say McConnell is indirectly going to kill the thing by tacking on bullshit. Should know more in a few hours. Honestly that still screws over the Georgia race. Bernie can still delay things and in the end it’s very clear that voting for the other party will get you the 2K if it doesn’t pass now. Also Trump could always say just pass the money on its own to further gently caress over Mitch. Best approach may be to just let it go. I can’t imagine 463 billion being saved means more then keeping the Senate.
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In case you're a big dumb like me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkFXxKGFFVA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-N_gmK0aYg
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facialimpediment posted:WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE? It's like an unholy cross of the SS, Starship Troopers, and Mirror Universe Starfleet.
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facialimpediment posted:For content: no loving way
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facialimpediment posted:For content:  They somehow managed to make it worse then if they left a weeb to do it.
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Doc Hawkins posted:no loving way It *may* not be real, as the end source is apparently US Space Force WTF Moments from facebook. But we have a Space Force specifically because Donald Trump thought it sounded cool. So there's that.
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