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Perplx posted:Yes the m1 laptops can only run 1 external display, which doesn't make much sense because it can drive a 6k monitor which is actually more pixels than 2x 4k monitors. I think its because the m1 cannot run 2x 6k monitors and apple wanted to avoid the the headline "the new apple laptop can't run 2 apple monitors but will run 2x 4k samsung monitors". I have a feeling they will enable 2 monitors in the future. I don't think the hardware is there. A much simpler explanation for everything working the way it does is that M1 has two display refresh and output blocks, and in the laptop M1 models one of them is dedicated exclusively to the internal display. (There's probably an extra and much less capable one to run the touchbar on the 13" MBP, but it's probably not useful for driving a full size display.) Wait for M1X (or whatever it ends up being called) if you need more high performance displays, or use DisplayLink stuff for extra mostly-static displays. A bigger M1 is obviously going to happen, and that's where Apple will address users who need more than 16GB RAM, more I/O ports, and so on.
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not to diminish the m1, but it really is just an upscaled ipad soc. the ipad can only drive a single external monitor so the m1 can only drive a single external monitor. i bet we don't get multiple displays until the m2
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Dec 29, 2020 06:32
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Binary Badger posted:M1s also can't seem to drive some ultrawide displays as well.. I can report that the Dell U3818DW is not affected by this, at least when using USB-C.
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Best Buy is doing some big discounts on their "open box - satisfactory" Macbok Pro M1 models in some stores. Down to $950 depending on location. You'll need to check on the site and click on "Buying Options" and it should show anything in your area https://www.bestbuy.com/site/macboo...odel~Apple%20M1 I think the Airs are discounted too.
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Dec 29, 2020 18:48
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Daily driving my XPS 13 and M1 MBA, one thing that they hosed up on the MBA that I hope they fix on the next rev is putting identical TB ports on both sides. I never have to think about it on the XPS but sometimes end up with awkward cable positioning on the MBA. Hope it doesn’t become a marker segmentation thing...
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Binary Badger posted:M1s also can't seem to drive some ultrawide displays as well.. same, my samsung crg9 would report 1080 ultrawide as the max res. i updated to the 11.2 beta and used switchresx and i can get full resolution but only via thunderbolt (in my case, going to displayport), so. not ideal but it works.
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movax posted:Daily driving my XPS 13 and M1 MBA, one thing that they hosed up on the MBA that I hope they fix on the next rev is putting identical TB ports on both sides. I never have to think about it on the XPS but sometimes end up with awkward cable positioning on the MBA. Yeah I wish they had ports on both sides. I’m not a fan of that but it’s a minor gripe.
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MBA M1/BigSur 11.1 20C69/LG 5k 27" external monitor issues so far are all waking from sleep issues: 1. Brightness doesn't work on the external monitor unless I go into the display settings and touch the brightness slider 2. Sometimes the display on the MBA displays in the wrong resolution but the extra resolution is available off screen, so you lose windows 3. Sometimes the external display will be split and offset vertically  
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Binary Badger posted:Many of the benchmarks were running in Rosetta 2 on the M1 MBP.. (Don't know why he only identiies it as Rosetta, not Rosetta 2..)
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Seeking Linux for Macbook advice! I have a retired Macbook Retina that I want to repurpose. It should stream netflix, youtube, other services without hassle and be a netbook for when we are traveling. Macbook Retina Core i7 3GHz 8GB RAM Its Mac OS is getting old (10.9.5) and it's full of junk. I don't want to upgrade to a newer Mac OS because I don't want to be bothered with Apple software, so I'd like to put on Linux distribution. But which one? Ubuntu Gnome? Elementary? It should be surefire, rae care of itself, be quick, and perform streaming and surfing duties.
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Dec 29, 2020 21:53
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:Were you confused and thought he was running PPC code? Rosetta and Rosetta 2 are two different technologies, one is for PPC to Intel, the other is Intel to ARM, calling it Rosetta is lazy
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Lord Stimperor posted:Seeking Linux for Macbook advice! If you want a minimal-hassle *nix OS that plays well with Mac hardware, why not just upgrade OS X/MacOS? Any Linux system will need a bit (or a lot) more care and feeding than the Apple option, and it doesn't sound like you're doing anything where Linux would give you any kind of substantial benefits. Binary Badger posted:Rosetta and Rosetta 2 are two different technologies, one is for PPC to Intel, the other is Intel to ARM, calling it Rosetta is lazy God, mom! It's not Star Trek, it's Star Trek: The Next Generation! They're completely different and it is lazy and insulting to call them both "Star Trek!"
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Binary Badger posted:Rosetta and Rosetta 2 are two different technologies, one is for PPC to Intel, the other is Intel to ARM, calling it Rosetta is lazy It is version 2 of a product called "Rosetta." Apple themselves calls it "Rosetta" in its docs after introducing its version number. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211861
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Dec 29, 2020 22:10
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If every time you mention iOS or Android you don't say iOS12 or Android 11 you are being lazy. Also, everytime you mention Something Awful you are being lazy if you don't say "Something Awful: Powered by vBulletin Version 2.2.9 (R)"
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Wine Is NOT an Emulator
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Space Gopher posted:If you want a minimal-hassle *nix OS that plays well with Mac hardware, why not just upgrade OS X/MacOS? Maybe that is an option. Mac OS keeps bugging me with accounts that it wants me to log in but maybe I can just opt out of that. And a fresh setup might also be a little bit smoother. I'll try that before side grading to Linux, thanks.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Maybe that is an option. Mac OS keeps bugging me with accounts that it wants me to log in but maybe I can just opt out of that. And a fresh setup might also be a little bit smoother. I'll try that before side grading to Linux, thanks. I just switched my 2013 MacBook Pro 13” to elementary. The amount of fixes and housekeeping I did just to make it feel workable was too much. Then I switched to Chrome OS which was decent, except that I needed to use my randomized 20 character Google password to log in each time after restart, and the trackpad experience was so subpar that I thought I might have physically broke or unseated the trackpad somehow. Ive given up and I’m hoping the system is a bit more stable after a nuke-and-pave. If not maybe I’ll try windows 10. I’ve updated a 2011 iMac from its OS to Win 10 and it was immediately, shockingly faster.
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How well does Linux handle power management on a Macbook, or are we just assuming the battery is shot and the machine's always plugged in?
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BlackMK4 posted:3. Sometimes the external display will be split and offset vertically That’s not M1-specific - I have the exact same issue with my LG 5k and a 16”. No amount of software updates fixed it, and Apple actually just swapped out my whole logic board to try and resolve 
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Lord Stimperor posted:Seeking Linux for Macbook advice! Hmm a retina isn’t that old yet to put Linux on unless you really want to mess with Linux but that’s more common practice with old PC laptops. ElementaryOS might be ok tho for a first time out. I would personally just nuke it and throw on lastest MacOS.
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If you want a minimal hassle my-first-distro Ubuntu is the way to go. Can't say I've got much love for gnome 3 though. As others have said a barebones Mac install is probably the simplest solution. You can also make bootable usb sticks for any linux distro super easily if you want to check them out without committing.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Seeking Linux for Macbook advice! I would suggest doing an macOS internet restore and restart from scratch, Linux on macs is still cumbersome and your unit is not old enough to justify the hassle.
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Hi thread, I have a decently old but still serviceable Mac that I want to make much worse to use. Which Linux distro do you recommend replacing MacOS Mojave with?
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Space Gopher posted:Yes, but only with DisplayLink, which is basically a separate GPU that runs in software over USB. It's exactly as slow and bandwidth-starved as that sounds. If you just need to display static office documents, it's fine. Anything with significant motion looks awful. Thanks - I'm going to try my luck with a DisplayLink - HDMI adapter, then.
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Binary Badger posted:Rosetta and Rosetta 2 are two different technologies, one is for PPC to Intel, the other is Intel to ARM, calling it Rosetta is lazy There is no possibility of confusion when you're speaking of Rosetta in 2020 what it means you pedantic dork
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i went looking to see if you could run ppc programs through rosetta 1 -> rosetta 2 but learned rosetta 1 was dropped from osx in 2011 
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I thought you guys were talking about the granodiorite stele inscribed with three versions of a decree issued in Memphis, Egypt in 196 BC during the Ptolemaic dynasty on behalf of King Ptolemy V Epiphanes
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I thought you guys were talking about the granodiorite stele inscribed with three versions of a decree issued in Memphis, Egypt in 196 BC during the Ptolemaic dynasty on behalf of King Ptolemy V Epiphanes E: the joke was not thought out enough
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Ok Comboomer posted:Hi thread, I have a decently old but still serviceable Mac that I want to make much worse to use. Which Linux distro do you recommend replacing MacOS Mojave with? EFB but Put Ubuntu on it if you’re a masochist.
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Wait do they actually use metric screen dimensions in the EU? Like instead of a MBP16 it’s a MBP40?
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Ok Comboomer posted:Hi thread, I have a decently old but still serviceable Mac that I want to make much worse to use. Which Linux distro do you recommend replacing MacOS Mojave with? Suicide Linux will definitely provide you the awful experience you are looking for. https://qntm.org/suicide
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Shaocaholica posted:EFB but Put Ubuntu on it if you’re a masochist. I was being 100% facetious lol, but yeah obviously I guess you put Ubuntu on it. If you must do a Linux to it
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Shaocaholica posted:Wait do they actually use metric screen dimensions in the EU? Like instead of a MBP16 it’s a MBP40? Not to my knowledge. I often see screen diagonals indicated as "xx inch (yy cm)" om ads and spec sheets. Might be national or european rule.
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I've got a Mid 2012 15" Retina MBP that's still doing the needful -- but the battery is practically dead. This is into vintage territory so apple won't give it the time of day anymore I believe. Are there any DIY battery replacement options that are actually OK? I don't trust any public online reviews at this point for that kinda stuff. I know the battery replacement is pretty involved and am OK with that.
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Make sure you have compressed air and a clean paintbrush to get out all the dust and crumbs while you’re in there.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Suicide Linux will definitely provide you the awful experience you are looking for. This is the apex of open source culture.
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WilWheaton posted:I've got a Mid 2012 15" Retina MBP that's still doing the needful -- but the battery is practically dead. This is into vintage territory so apple won't give it the time of day anymore I believe. I have no real experience with this specifically, but ifixit has never failed me for replacement parts, tools and guides.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Maybe that is an option. Mac OS keeps bugging me with accounts that it wants me to log in but maybe I can just opt out of that. And a fresh setup might also be a little bit smoother. I'll try that before side grading to Linux, thanks. You probably want to follow these directions to erase the internal drive: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208496 followed by these to install a fresh macOS using the Internet Recovery feature: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204904 Since your Mac has likely never been past 10.9.5, it hasn't had its firmware upgraded so that Internet Recovery can take you straight to the latest version of macOS. Instead, the old-school version of IR will install the version of macOS which was originally installed by the factory on your computer (it might not even go back to 10.9.5, in other words). So once that fresh OS is installed, you're in for an upgrade to get to the most recent macOS. An alternative method which is slightly more involved could take you straight to current macOS Big Sur. It requires two things: a USB stick (preferably a high speed USB3.0 one) that you don't mind erasing to hold a bootable installer, and access to a Mac which you can log into in order to download the macOS install app from the App Store and then run the command line tool buried inside the installer app to create the bootable installer. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372 However, if I'm reading between the lines of what you've written, you've been handed a retired computer that you might not have the password to...
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Thanks for the detailed instructions! I will update as soon as I'm home. I'm literally in a cabin in the woods and the wifi is spotty here. It's actually my own Macbook. Used it a lot for work and private earlier, but privately I'm mostly on my windows desktop now, and at my current job I have to use a company laptop. So this one is delegated to couch duty.
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