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Erev posted:So, as someone living on the other side of the galaxy currently, where are these SHH folk located? I'm currently working to refit a bomber to take a mining vacation. Popping some retrievers would be fun. (Yeah, I know intys are better for popping, but I like to linger.) They are based out of CZDJ and the Pentagon up in Delkein for the most part I believe. Happy hunting.
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Dec 29, 2020 13:57
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 Why am I facing repercussions for my actions?!!?!
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Touchdown Boy posted:They are based out of CZDJ and the Pentagon up in Delkein for the most part I believe. Happy hunting. Thanks!
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Dec 29, 2020 15:37
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I read "they get hard when someone says something insensitive even when it's made in ignorance rather than hate" as "I am persecuted because people won't hold my hand and gently tell me what's right and wrong, and instead told me to gently caress off"
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Dec 29, 2020 20:53
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if someone says something out of ignorance we point it out. It's when they double down they get airlocked
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Dec 29, 2020 20:55
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And the shitheads that aren't in our group, it's rarely actual ignorance, and they always double down.
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Dec 29, 2020 21:35
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by the way snail was right, gently caress em. they apparently had it out last night and decided its better to hide toxicity than to lance the boil and clean up the mess.
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Dec 29, 2020 21:53
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Herb Dington posted:I read "they get hard when someone says something insensitive even when it's made in ignorance rather than hate" I find it very, very telling that literally no one is actually mad at Otacon (who has already apologized in Jabber and explained that it was because of ignorance) but the people having meltdowns about "cAnT yOu TaKe A jOkE, wHy ArE yOu AtTaCkInG hIm" are conflating all the frustration directed at themselves for "doubling down on being a shithead and making GBS threads all over the thread about it" with "making an offensive joke that was received poorly" instead.
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Dec 29, 2020 21:59
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jfc dirk johnwood is the worst fucken poster and I have no idea why he's tolerated. He's not Goonwaffe/Goonswarm, just some allied pubbie, but he's insufferable about _everything_.
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Dec 29, 2020 22:43
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Tsed posted:jfc dirk johnwood is the worst fucken poster and I have no idea why he's tolerated. pubbies are why GSF jabber is impossible
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Dec 29, 2020 23:05
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RFC2324 posted:pubbies are why GSF jabber is impossible gently caress jabber anyways. Once this game requires me to have 4 chat programs from 2005 open at all times is when I light this app on fire and walk away.
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Dec 29, 2020 23:22
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Mercenaries just came in force into the pocket with BCs, guardian bubble and scythe. we formed up, got organized, and hosed em up. When this game is good, it’s SO good.
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Dec 29, 2020 23:43
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I completely forgot about jabber until going to the EO thread recently. Can’t believe they still use that.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:11
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Kaysette posted:I completely forgot about jabber until going to the EO thread recently. Can’t believe they still use that. It's because they can tie it to GSF services to keep out "Spies" when they are absolutely littered with spies anyways.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:22
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Tsed posted:jfc dirk johnwood is the worst fucken poster and I have no idea why he's tolerated. He's TNT. If you have a problem with him, you can talk to me about it.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:48
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orange juche posted:by the way snail was right, gently caress em. they apparently had it out last night and decided its better to hide toxicity than to lance the boil and clean up the mess. Of course, the signs were all there already this was going to be the case. The long and short of it most gaming communities are full of these immature 'edgy' people. Best you can do is make fun of them from the outside because they have no interest in changing. Communities that do want to change might find themselves very short on members to being with.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:52
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Wibla posted:He's TNT. If you have a problem with him, you can talk to me about it. Sure. I mean, the above is just an example, and honestly, not his usual poo poo. He's not 1488ing around or whatever and doing anything I'd expect anyone to be kicked over, he's just aggressively unhelpful. His inability to shut up and let other people be helpful in lieu of him explaining why they should just not be bad was something some retvets brought up unprompted.
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Dec 30, 2020 01:11
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Wibla posted:He's TNT. If you have a problem with him, you can talk to me about it. Are attack helicopter jokes normally allowed in TNT if you change it to a word that isn't "attack helicopter", such as "asparagus"?
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Dec 30, 2020 01:34
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Tsed posted:Sure. He's a bad poster, that's for sure. Is he actually breaking the rules and being a transphobic piece of poo poo? Not as far as I can tell. Colin Mockery posted:Are attack helicopter jokes normally allowed in TNT if you change it to a word that isn't "attack helicopter", such as "asparagus"? Is this a joke? I've re-read the logs (and not just that snipped, but the whole conversation) a couple of times now to try to see if you can even realistically try to pin that on him, and I don't see it.
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Dec 30, 2020 01:56
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Wibla posted:He's a bad poster, that's for sure. Is he actually breaking the rules and being a transphobic piece of poo poo? Not as far as I can tell. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter If they're substituting the word asparagus for attack helicopter, they're making a direct reference to this and know exactly what the gently caress they're doing.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:05
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orange juche posted:https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter  I underlined the relevant bits. Are you seriously claiming that's an attack helicopter reference?
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Dec 30, 2020 02:16
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Wibla posted:
What do you think the joke there is? Could you explain what you think he's saying, if it's not transphobic?
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Dec 30, 2020 02:25
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Wibla posted:
Yes. It’s a clear semantic derivation.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:33
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Wibla posted:Is this a joke? I've re-read the logs (and not just that snipped, but the whole conversation) a couple of times now to try to see if you can even realistically try to pin that on him, and I don't see it. Okay, so there's nothing wrong with what the person said and it's allowed? edit: ok i agree that this conversation, if it becomes a conversation, really does belong in the 2l bottle thread tho Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Dec 30, 2020 02:39
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I feel like I've heard Wibla's name thrown around as one of the EO goons who thinks slurs are funny, and why snails complaints probably won't go anywhere. edit: for the record I don't really know poo poo about EO goons so maybe this isn't true. I just know almost all of the ones we've had to deal with in EE suck turds. Alligator Tower fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Dec 30, 2020 02:42
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Alligator Tower posted:I feel like I've heard Wibla's name thrown around as one of the EO goons who thinks slurs are funny, and why snails complaints probably won't go anywhere. No, Wibla's not one of those EO goons who think slurs are funny, but him covering for people in TNT being dogshit doesn't put him in a good light. For the record, stuff with TNT and dick jerkwood should probably go back other to 2L bottle thread instead of here. orange juche fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Dec 30, 2020 02:45
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Lemming posted:What do you think the joke there is? Could you explain what you think he's saying, if it's not transphobic? He was referring to how people have thin skin (in general), and that someone will always get offended, no matter what it is. That's from asking him directly, and from reading the wider context of the log (I am in the channel and went back over the logs). He's also been in my corp for several years now, and he's not transphobic by any stretch of the imagination. Find someone else to lynch.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:49
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Wibla posted:He was referring to how people have thin skin (in general), and that someone will always get offended, no matter what it is. No, what do you think the joke in the "oops you might've offended a person that thought he was an asparagus in his past life" statement? Who do you think he means by that? Because the last reference here was explicitly to the attack helicopter "joke", what do you think that's a play off of?
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Dec 30, 2020 02:54
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Wibla posted:
Seriously? Guess you aren't familiar with the concept of context, it's pretty obvious what he was going for, he was just trying to be edgy and ride the line by not using the literal term "helicopter" I mean it's like people saying urban because they think they are being clever by not dropping an n-bomb. This is exactly what the Fash always do with their dog whistles, use something that if you stare at it at the right angle is inoffensive so the sea lions will all  that poo poo kind of like you are doing right now.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:55
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Lemming posted:No, what do you think the joke in the "oops you might've offended a person that thought he was an asparagus in his past life" statement? Who do you think he means by that? Because the last reference here was explicitly to the attack helicopter "joke", what do you think that's a play off of? I would also like to know more about the kind of "posting like a goon" that that person finds funny (but that other people are "suddenly" considering "a bad thing") and would like more of. Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Dec 30, 2020 02:58
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I think what you guys are missing is that they've assured each other that if anyone is doing anything really bad they'll be airlocked. So if they don't want to airlock this guy, that proves what he was doing was fine and you're all overreacting. Also, the asparagus joke-teller's long time with GSF being referenced shouldn't worry anyone. Their seniority certainly wouldn't be protecting them from this universal airlock policy.
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Dec 30, 2020 03:01
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Khris Kruel posted:if someone says something out of ignorance we point it out. absolutely based
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Dec 30, 2020 03:02
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Alligator Tower posted:I think what you guys are missing is that they've assured each other that if anyone is doing anything really bad they'll be airlocked. So if they don't want to airlock this guy, that proves what he was doing was fine and you're all overreacting. Also, the asparagus joke-teller's long time with GSF being referenced shouldn't worry anyone. Their seniority certainly wouldn't be protecting them from this universal airlock policy. Reading Wilba's rap sheet, it's pretty obvious that he's perfectly fine with using slurs given that he's been probed multiple times for using the same one.
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Dec 30, 2020 03:05
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Skex posted:Reading Wilba's rap sheet, it's pretty obvious that he's perfectly fine with using slurs given that he's been probed multiple times for using the same one. never that it's okay, but there is a difference between dropping an r word because it's still culturally acceptable in 90% of the internet and harassing people with loving attack helicopter jokes because you know it's something sensitive to them
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now that 4chan is taken care of, we've been having some fun with KTF, the drooling morons that had offered to let 4chan use their system (A-Z). a few days ago i was miner ganking when this player Admiral Danius started up some pretty cool chats which culminated in Danius challenging me to a Classical Mind Debate. i negotiated the venue as Jita local chat and we set a time (last night)  the debate happened last night. sorry this is a bit hard to read, the town square was kind of busy. i put alliance icons next to the participants for the main section of the chatlog to help with readability  to sum things up, Danius got mad and forfeited this extremely serious debate after two rounds. one of the KTF team members, Bathammer, inexplicably flew to the debate in a Naga, so when it left i followed it to the Syndicate backdoor in Solitude that they like to use. new goosefleet members and tactical geniuses Braun and Thomas set up a perfect drag bubble to catch the Daredevil that was escorting the Naga home and we finished off debate night with a tasty faction frigate killmail and Danius flipping out in M2 local chat. thanks all for attending btw someone else was PMing Danius and evidently they are 38 years old. technology is truly amazing
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Alligator Tower posted:I feel like I've heard Wibla's name thrown around as one of the EO goons who thinks slurs are funny, and why snails complaints probably won't go anywhere. That's not remotely true. In my time in Eve Wibla was probably one of the better allied corp/alliance leaders, generally got poo poo done and managed to post good while doing it. He was with us when EO was hostile. That said, Wibla my man you are missing a fairly obvious dismissal of trans folks feelings in that post your guy said. He's pretty directly mocking them.
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Dec 30, 2020 06:01
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It’s pretty wild that the poo poo we decimated 4chan for doing in EE is exactly what goons are STILL doing in EO.
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uniball posted:<debate> This is art. I love this so much.
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Kaysette posted:It’s pretty wild that the poo poo we decimated 4chan for doing in EE is exactly what goons are STILL doing in EO. I played eve for 7 years and I never ran across a single EO person who wasn't absolute garbage trash that probably unironically uses the phrase "This isn't something sensitive" in tyol 2020. I wasn't aware they were back in goonfleet but holy poo poo does it explain a lot. How hard is it to get into toilet eve and get isk and such? I assume it's less populated and resources are scarcer. I heard someone making a big deal about popping a faction ship which happens like every 15 minutes on regular eve.
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