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Happy New Years everyone, I don’t post much and I’m a bit of a poo poo lefty but you lot are on point and I get a lot from reading this thread.
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Ewan posted:What you don't know is that IDS is actually 200 years old so his reflections from when he was 21 are accurate. The way your upper class are raised they might as well be
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Jan 1, 2021 17:33
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If Eton has a buccaneering course sign me up!
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Jan 1, 2021 17:41
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IDS isn't even upper class he just married rich after faking his entire CV.
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Jan 1, 2021 17:58
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I have a package that got lost for three days in Europe, then turned up in Kent and has sat there for three days, so I'm getting an exciting look at how the queues are doing down there. My package was last spotted Stanford Le Hope, Kent, GB curtsey of UPS... destination Northern Ireland, current status is; Your package may be lost.  Just another benefit of Brexit, serves me right for ordering late on.
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Jan 1, 2021 18:25
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Probably someone buccaneered it.
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Jan 1, 2021 18:41
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stev posted:If Eton has a buccaneering course sign me up! Eton IS the buccaneering course
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Jan 1, 2021 18:49
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CyberPingu posted:They could have done a poo poo load more than sit back and watch what the Tories did and then follow that. I may be misremembering, but isn't that backwards and the majority of what Westminster's done been a half arsed attempt to mimic what Scotland can do with our limited powers?
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Jan 1, 2021 19:05
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Neighbours opposite had a lovely new years gathering with a couple of families which just ended. The cunts also parked their cars outside my house which meant I had to park halfway down the road, which is the real crime. It honestly destroys my mind that despite what's going on (we're in tier 4), people still just don't give a gently caress. It's honestly why the left will never win an election in this country again.
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Jan 1, 2021 19:20
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people think that whatever their personal set of circumstances is makes them the exception and that what they're doing is actually fine, not like all those other rule breakers
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Jan 1, 2021 19:29
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'closing borders' is a bit subtle - the requirement largely adopted across East Asia and Oceania, when one talks of 'closed borders', has generally meant 'travellers must be quarantined for 14 days upon arrival' rather than actually closing the airports and ports (although those have occurred in niche cases) whether such a long isolation period has the political will to be enforced is another matter... the UK is not alone in shying from enforcement, e.g. France has also recoiled from it. This is not an "Asian culture" thing if Australia can enforce jail time for quarantine violations, mind as the UK goes the problem is that the science doesn't unambiguously demand harshly enforced and monitored self-isolation. One could always make up for a light touch here by an ever-more effective contact tracing regime, or mass testing regime, or both. And it is exactly this excuse which an inveterately self-deceiving government immediately seized, of course... ronya fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jan 1, 2021 |
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Jan 1, 2021 19:31
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The fact that they set this up as 'tiers with exceptions' rather than lockdown just means that people can justify their behaviour as being an exception. Boris just doesn't want to be hated by his chums in the press, so he's trying to set it up so that people know they should isolate, but also they know that they don't have to isolate if they can think of a clever reason. I'm pretty sure now that it's down to an ideological opposition to government helping people, and therefore getting dangerously close to suggesting that Maggie was wrong and there is such a thing as society. E: If you see all of this through the lens of personal responsibility, then of course it's not the government's fault and how dare you suggest the nanny state start telling people what to do. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jan 1, 2021 |
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Jan 1, 2021 19:35
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These people are responsible for so much of how hosed everything is and still get to be on BBC all the time https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1345003020480872448?s=19
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Jan 1, 2021 19:48
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the Tories hung themselves on the hope of Test and Trace to resolve the risks they were taking - if anything they were too optimistic on the potential to identify a light-touch solution and the rhetoric always exposed a kind of unreal regard for it as a panacea - let's say it does work in its optimal scenario, i.e., before mass community transmission, when a new single cluster is identified. And then what? Who hauls all the contacts to isolation for fourteen days? never mind China, is one even just prepared to be the totalitarian dystopia that is Australia? And if not, why not?
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Jan 1, 2021 19:54
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ronya posted:the Tories hung themselves on the hope of Test and Trace to resolve the risks they were taking - if anything they were too optimistic on the potential to identify a light-touch solution The cruelty is the point, ronya. You could save so many words if you remembered that.
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Jan 1, 2021 20:00
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The Perfect Element posted:
The government totally abdicated all responsibility pretty much instantly and openly and nakedly reneged on drat near every promise made at the start of lockdown. A whopping percentage of the cabinet has violated lockdown protocols with zero consequence, and Bojo himself treated getting covid like some frightfully clever jape. We here, as goons, by and large are okay with sitting in and poo poo posting, but for a lot of people going in the sesh and socializing is their primary release mechanism. Oh and a lot of people got the feet kicked out from under their festive season at the last minute, purely because the government couldn't be arsed doing anything that might help a prole. 2020 was, by and large, a never ending festival of he rich and powerful in the UK going "lol gently caress you, society is a sham go gently caress yourself" while being deliberately vague about what shape the future might take. In the face of that the surprising thing, to me, isn't that a few people have decided to go "gently caress it" and party, it's that such a large percentage are still respecting covid protocols.
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Jan 1, 2021 20:01
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ronya posted:the Tories hung themselves on the hope of Test and Trace to resolve the risks they were taking - if anything they were too optimistic on the potential to identify a light-touch solution Total elimination probably wouldn't have been possible but if they'd got the first two of test, trace and isolate right then even if the third was patchy it would have kept the R number right down.
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Jan 1, 2021 20:02
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Blueshirt posted:In the face of that the surprising thing, to me, isn't that a few people have decided to go "gently caress it" and party, it's that such a large percentage are still respecting covid protocols. Now we are free from the shackles of the EU
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Jan 1, 2021 20:05
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Blueshirt posted:
I'm more surprised that people are still supporting the Tories and can't envisage better things. Labour being so poo poo now under Starmer for fear of being called out for "playing politics" has me way more angry.
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Jan 1, 2021 20:08
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ronya posted:is one even just prepared to be the totalitarian dystopia that is Australia? And if not, why not?
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Jan 1, 2021 20:12
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it is astonishing that the leader of the opposition, at PMQs, while opposing the government, is accused of playing politics. Like my dude, if not now then loving when?
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Jan 1, 2021 20:22
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You see sensible adults all agree on the one way to do things which is with no changes to the current system ever. Anything opposing that is just naive student politics. It's almost like they're all invested in holding up the massive racket they have going.
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Jan 1, 2021 20:29
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https://twitter.com/KateGreenSU/status/1345092824602177536 Labour are trying real hard to get in on the death-cult business
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Jan 1, 2021 21:12
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https://twitter.com/hmtreasury/status/1344961568581308416 Huh an actual good thing happened.
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Jan 1, 2021 21:18
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ronya posted:the Tories hung themselves Please don't say nice things.
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Jan 1, 2021 21:23
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https://twitter.com/WestminsterWAG/status/1345099745778393088?s=19
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Jan 1, 2021 21:28
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Says paid sideline criticiser, Sarah Vine. Also, the Labour party couldn't have been more collaborative if they'd tried.
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Jan 1, 2021 21:46
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/KateGreenSU/status/1345092824602177536 hnmm I wonder which parties were insisting schools should open in January mere days ago? probably not the labour party, at least, or this would look real loving weasely
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Jan 1, 2021 22:10
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"No one could have done any better" says worst-performing country in the world.
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Jan 1, 2021 22:29
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My husband is amazing! She should have to have a disclosure, like at the end of paid advertorials on every tweet/column relating to government policy.
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Jan 1, 2021 22:29
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sassassin posted:"No one could have done any better" says worst-performing country in the world. Ha, reminds me of this PR classic https://news.sky.com/story/mugabe-fall-even-jesus-would-have-tripped-10372605 quote:Zimbabwean state media and spin doctors have rushed to defend President Robert Mugabe after he fell from a staircase, saying "even Jesus" would have tripped under the circumstances.
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Jan 1, 2021 22:56
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sassassin posted:"No one could have done any better" says worst-performing country in the world. 'Best system in the world' if you ignore every other country's advanced tech solution that was already in place months ago VVV drat you happyhippy fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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Jan 2, 2021 00:02
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happyhippy posted:if you ignore every other county this is the united kingdom, yes
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Jan 2, 2021 00:03
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Bournemouth/Poole/Christchuch got moved into tier 4 a few days back, but not Dorset county council. Sounds simple, but in practice due to the way the new council lines were drawn up after the mergers we now have a situation in Hamworthy thats utterly absurd. All the shops are on one side of the main road which falls under BCP council. But over the road is the majority of the housing in Hamworthy, which falls under Dorset council. Now they cant go to the shop 100 yards away to buy food as this is entering a tier 4 area and you're not allowed to do that according to our MP. This means they now need to go nearly 10 miles to the next nearest supermarket in the Dorset council area, yet all their kids can mingle in the school thats in tier 4 and they can all go to work in Tier 4's Sunseeker yard down the road. Someone please tell me this is not right?
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Jan 2, 2021 00:04
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serious gaylord posted:Bournemouth/Poole/Christchuch got moved into tier 4 a few days back, but not Dorset county council. Sounds simple, but in practice due to the way the new council lines were drawn up after the mergers we now have a situation in Hamworthy thats utterly absurd. All the shops are on one side of the main road which falls under BCP council. But over the road is the majority of the housing in Hamworthy, which falls under Dorset council. Now they cant go to the shop 100 yards away to buy food as this is entering a tier 4 area and you're not allowed to do that according to our MP. This means they now need to go nearly 10 miles to the next nearest supermarket in the Dorset council area, yet all their kids can mingle in the school thats in tier 4 and they can all go to work in Tier 4's Sunseeker yard down the road. 
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Jan 2, 2021 00:08
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I guess when you're trying to keep rules simple enough to be able to follow for like millions of people theres going to be a few local oddities pop up. The people should shop on the other side of the road. We'll all be tier 7 by next weekend anyway.
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Jan 2, 2021 00:13
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serious gaylord posted:Bournemouth/Poole/Christchuch got moved into tier 4 a few days back, but not Dorset county council. Sounds simple, but in practice due to the way the new council lines were drawn up after the mergers we now have a situation in Hamworthy thats utterly absurd. All the shops are on one side of the main road which falls under BCP council. But over the road is the majority of the housing in Hamworthy, which falls under Dorset council. Now they cant go to the shop 100 yards away to buy food as this is entering a tier 4 area and you're not allowed to do that according to our MP. This means they now need to go nearly 10 miles to the next nearest supermarket in the Dorset council area, yet all their kids can mingle in the school thats in tier 4 and they can all go to work in Tier 4's Sunseeker yard down the road. I did go for a walk one day and realise I had walked into Tier 2. Handed myself into the police that night.
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Jan 2, 2021 00:14
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serious gaylord posted:Someone please tell me this is not right? Look, you just get someone from your District who works in those shops to smuggle food back across the checkpoints. You can then sell that food to your neighbors at markup, or in exchange for "favours". Eventually building up enough gang muscle to control the whole area's black market, you then go legit and get made District Suppression Captain by the authorities. It's called entrepreneurship you foolish lefty, and the Conservatives are here to teach you it.
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Jan 2, 2021 00:22
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Bobby Deluxe posted:The fact that they set this up as 'tiers with exceptions' rather than lockdown just means that people can justify their behaviour as being an exception. Looking back at particular things that caused people to stop giving a gently caress about isolating I reckon there's a big three; 1. Cummings doing his disease-ridden UK tour and then the Prime Minister saying it was Good Actually and in fact is morally much better for a father to do than following the rules is. 2. The BLM street protests and every lib-left idiot excusing them as 'ah but donchano racism is the real disease'. 3. The government ordering people that were working from home perfectly well to pointlessly go back into localised workplaces. The gov hosed up almost every stage of this crisis but that was the most nakedly stupid moment. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Vitamin P posted:Looking back at particular things that caused people to stop giving a gently caress about isolating I reckon there's a big three; 1. I think this lead almost directly into the bubbles too? Probably the most abused excuse to do what you want in the whole setup. 2. Lol not touching that. 3.I do wonder what the stats are on transmission in workplaces that don't need to be workplaces. But yes giving the impression this gave has undermined the importance of isolating if thats the word we should use.
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