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Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008
Pausing this month since I have Pathologic, but if I didn't Path would be worth it on its own.

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bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
Dang I just bought Chaosbane over the winter sale. I sank about 20 hours into it. But that's like, ALL the game has to offer. Adequate is kind of the best I can describe it.

Mr. Locke
Jul 28, 2010
The only game I've played in this month's bundle is Chasobane since it was dirt-cheap in the Humble sale a few months back, and it's basically to Diablo 3 as Grim Dawn is to Diablo 2/Titan Quest- an ok game that's fun enough to finish the campaign but mostly just makes you want to go back and play the much better game it's pulling it's ideas from.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Max Wilco posted:

Is it worth it to pick up Master Chief Collection? I have it sitting in my cart right now, but I figured they had fixed the audio issues. I played parts of the campaigns of 1 and 2 on XBOX when over at a neighbor's house, but I've never played any of them from beginning-to-end. The audio issues sound annoying, but it doesn't sound like it makes the game unplayable.

Halo is a mediocre enough series that the sound issues shouldn't bother you. Like, there's issues, but it's just Halo so who cares. Just get the MCC collection because, for £18, you can get more than enough nostalgia and entertainment out of it to make it feel like a worthwhile purchase.

It also means you can finally consider the Xbox 360 redundant.

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

For someone with zero nostalgia for Halo and who was generally unimpressed with Halo 1 upon playing the old fan-patched Windows version, is Reach such a pinnacle of the series that it's likely to do anything for me? Like there's no way in space I'm paying the full price of the MCC, but Reach for $6 I could maybe convince myself to try for the hell of it.

And for that matter, how does this even work? You can buy the Reach DLC without buying the base game? This is very counterintuitive to how I've always seen DLC to work on Steam. :psyduck:

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Kin posted:

Halo is a mediocre enough series that the sound issues shouldn't bother you. Like, there's issues, but it's just Halo so who cares. Just get the MCC collection because, for £18, you can get more than enough nostalgia and entertainment out of it to make it feel like a worthwhile purchase.

It also means you can finally consider the Xbox 360 redundant.

It's $24 USD here, but it looks like that's roughly the same after converting from dollars to pounds.

I never owned an XBOX console, and I used to hate Halo, because during the time when it was super-popular I felt like it was responsible for killing off the classic style FPS (Doom, Duke3D, etc.) In recent years though, I've been interested in trying the series, because while the series might not be exceptional, they seem to be pretty solid games, and can be fun.

MonkeyforaHead posted:

And for that matter, how does this even work? You can buy the Reach DLC without buying the base game? This is very counterintuitive to how I've always seen DLC to work on Steam. :psyduck:

Yeah, I'm confused as to how it works. You can buy the games individually, but they're DLC. I guessing it's like the Sega Classic games, where you buy the games individually, but they all load under the same executable?

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Max Wilco posted:

It's $24 USD here, but it looks like that's roughly the same after converting from dollars to pounds.

I never owned an XBOX console, and I used to hate Halo, because during the time when it was super-popular I felt like it was responsible for killing off the classic style FPS (Doom, Duke3D, etc.) In recent years though, I've been interested in trying the series, because while the series might not be exceptional, they seem to be pretty solid games, and can be fun.


Yeah, I'm confused as to how it works. You can buy the games individually, but they're DLC. I guessing it's like the Sega Classic games, where you buy the games individually, but they all load under the same executable?

They are solid games worth the cumulative discounted price considering you're getting 6 of them. Even the shite halo 4 is still a solid game (don't play spartan ops though, those are terrible).

As for how it works, the game has a built in launcher of a sort, you pick and choose which game to download and install (including and/or the multiplayer for each game too). Once you select this option it begins downloading it in the ingame browser (it has it's own % bar), however when you exit to steam you can see that steam is downloading a game sized update for it.

Steam labelling it as DLC is likely because there's no other way for it to list the structure of it.

You can just buy each one of those separately (it tells you this on the individual game page).

Kin fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jan 1, 2021

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

You can buy the games individually or all in one bundle, but you need to buy at least one of them to get the MCC game client in your library - it's not tagged as a free download.

So if you want just Reach, you can grab that and ignore the rest

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Max Wilco posted:

Yeah, I'm confused as to how it works. You can buy the games individually, but they're DLC. I guessing it's like the Sega Classic games, where you buy the games individually, but they all load under the same executable?

Correct.

Also I hope the Minoria devs get more out of the Humble Choice than loving Dangan get.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!
I wasn't ever blown away by Halo but that and Goldeneye had a recognizable appeal to consoles gamers who didn't already experience Quake/UT99 and all of those other multiplayer FPS games in the mid/late 90s. Everyone needs a good FPS fix.

bagmonkey
May 13, 2003




Grimey Drawer
As someone who never played the Halo series very much and is now finally playing through MCC , it's alright. There are some decent moments, the missions are enjoyable except in a few situations (playing solo) and I feel like by the time I finish the series, I'll be happy with what I got out of it. I would definitely not feel that way if I was paying more than current price though.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

drat Dirty Ape posted:

It's been a long time, but I remember some cutscenes in MGS4 with characters repeatedly telling me 'war is bad mmmkay' over and over and over and I was just so frustrated because I didn't understand what was going on in the story and why the characters were even doing what they were doing. It was like 'I get it, war is bad and PMCs are making money off of it.' but it was like he felt that it was just such an alien idea that he had to hammer it home with hours of exposition while ignoring what was actually happening in the plot.
iirc the good writer left after mgs3, so everything after is mush

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Yeah, some good stuff in Choice this time. I haven't bought Pathologic 2 or Chaosbane yet and that Ambassador game looks pretty engaging for something I've never heard of before. Ancestors is kinda crap, but exactly the kind of game you want in a bundle because it's fun but not fun enough to pay for. Song of Horror is a very solid procedurally generated horror game and worth playing if you like horror at all.

Not as good for me personally as last month, but I would recommend opting in this month unless you already have a solid number of the games on offer.

Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Jan 2, 2021

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Relin posted:

iirc the good writer left after mgs3, so everything after is mush

That's a common misconception, the guy did the optional Codec calls, which while absolutely outstanding, doesn't explain why the main bulk of the story also got worse. I think it's better to actually place the reduction of quality in writing at MGS2, since outside of the most key moments, there's a lot of really lovely writing there albeit with a fantastic big idea tying it together, and that's just Kojima through and through. MGS3 kinda gets away with it because Kojima's just doing a fun Cold War thriller. Apparently his writing is much better in Japanese, and it's his demands regarding translation that really hurt the quality overall in English.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
It seems like there was something like a 2 month gap between me buying the original Ori and the Blind Forest on sale and then Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition coming out. Owners of the original Ori got zero discount on the definitive edition and it pissed me off.

I'd like to try out Ori and the Will of the Wisps but something tells me that once I do buy it, they're going to release a Definitive Edition of that game too and offer no discounts to owners of the current version, so I'm inclined to just say gently caress em until a Definitive Edition comes out and goes on sale.

Anybody familiar with these games know how likely a Definitive Edition of Will of the Wisps is to happening and if owners of the original will get a discount?

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Nothing concrete, although there have been rumors about it since July or so.... but honestly, at this point you should expect it as a matter of course. Any publisher that thinks they can get away with it will try to cash in on a game twice. There's probably going to be one.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

Cardiovorax posted:

Nothing concrete, although there have been rumors about it since July or so.... but honestly, at this point you should expect it as a matter of course. Any publisher that thinks they can get away with it will try to cash in on a game twice. There's probably going to be one.

Yeah. gently caress them then. I'll wait until there's a Definitive Edition, and then for it to go on sale for like $5 or something like the Blind Forest Definitive Edition has done.

I'm not going to buy the same game from them twice (the second one with slightly upgraded graphics or whatever), but if there's an almost-guaranteed better version coming out sooner or later I'll just hold out for that one.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

time for another game awareness post...

https://i.imgur.com/QZvcfcB.mp4

Manifold Garden is a fantastic surreal journey and definitely one of the most memorable things I've ever played. M.C. Escheresque worlds infinitely repeat in all directions, doorways lead to impossible spaces, and the direction of gravity can be changed at will to fall to other iterations of the world. the soundscape shifts and evolves as you move, backed by an appropriately surreal soundtrack. for years I've been looking for a game that hits the same notes as Antichamber, and this is finally the game that comes closest to that, although it has a complete identity of its own. can't wait to see what the developer does next.

Ragequit
Jun 1, 2006


Lipstick Apathy

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

time for another game awareness post...

https://i.imgur.com/QZvcfcB.mp4

Manifold Garden is a fantastic surreal journey and definitely one of the most memorable things I've ever played. M.C. Escheresque worlds infinitely repeat in all directions, doorways lead to impossible spaces, and the direction of gravity can be changed at will to fall to other iterations of the world. the soundscape shifts and evolves as you move, backed by an appropriately surreal soundtrack. for years I've been looking for a game that hits the same notes as Antichamber, and this is finally the game that comes closest to that, although it has a complete identity of its own. can't wait to see what the developer does next.



You are obviously someone of very fine tastes if you enjoy Antichamber, so I think you sold me on this.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

for years I've been looking for a game that hits the same notes as Antichamber, and this is finally the game that comes closest to that

Oh hell yes.

NObodyNOWHERE
Apr 24, 2007

Now we are all sons of bitches.
Hell Gem
If you aren't averse to using Epic Game Store then you can get Manifold Garden for $5 currently.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

GreatGreen posted:

It seems like there was something like a 2 month gap between me buying the original Ori and the Blind Forest on sale and then Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition coming out. Owners of the original Ori got zero discount on the definitive edition and it pissed me off.

I'd like to try out Ori and the Will of the Wisps but something tells me that once I do buy it, they're going to release a Definitive Edition of that game too and offer no discounts to owners of the current version, so I'm inclined to just say gently caress em until a Definitive Edition comes out and goes on sale.

Anybody familiar with these games know how likely a Definitive Edition of Will of the Wisps is to happening and if owners of the original will get a discount?

the definitive edition was half-off for people who had the original, the discount just expired after a while

regardless, wisps doesn't strike me as something that's getting a definitive edition, it feels pretty much finished as-is

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
To be fair, I would've said the same thing about Blind Forest. Needing a definitive edition doesn't really have much to do with it.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Cardiovorax posted:

To be fair, I would've said the same thing about Blind Forest. Needing a definitive edition doesn't really have much to do with it.

blind forest had some pretty glaring flubs like making sections of the map (and their associated collectibles) permanently inaccessible without warning, which the definitive edition corrected

wisps doesn't have anything like that to my recollection

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Cardiovorax posted:

Nothing concrete, although there have been rumors about it since July or so.... but honestly, at this point you should expect it as a matter of course. Any publisher that thinks they can get away with it will try to cash in on a game twice. There's probably going to be one.

Have the graphics upgrade from the xbox one x version not been applied on PC? They're pretty significant, I believe.

(also, it IS on gamepass if you just want to play through it once for cheap)

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I'm looking at purchasing Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag. I only expect to play the single player. What version should I get? I'm looking at the Steam page, and there are some things that look worthwhile from the Gold Edition, namely:

The Trove of Mystery Pack: Iron Wheel & Astrolabe Relic
Pirates Bounty Pack: German Rapiers & Compass Relic
Sacrificed Secrets Pack: Dark and dangerous treasure-hunting mission on Sacrifice Island; Unlock Captain Drake's Dual Swords and Pistols, Picture, Title, and Relics
Hidden Mystery Pack: Adventurous treasure-hunting mission on Mystery Island; Unlock Stede Bonnet's Ship, Costumes and other MP items
Black Island Pack: Dark and dangerous treasure-hunting mission on Black Island; Unlock the Deadly Black Ship and Captain Morgan's Silver Flintlock Pistols, Costume, Picture, and Title

For someone who has played this before, are these worthwhile for single player, or are they filler junk that isn't worth it?

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
Xander77 has been giving away games and only asked for reviews in return (or a ride of the Gift Train). As a part of that outreach program, here's my mini-review for Dead Effect 2:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/394760/Dead_Effect_2/



Looks-wise, it's more of the same as the first Dead Effect, which was a port of a mobile FPS game that looks very much like Doom 3, being all cramped spaceship corridors and shiny metal surfaces. This sequel came out on Android in 2015, so you aren't getting anything cutting-edge here. It has co-op and PvP modes, but I've not tried that to see how well it works.

You play an unfrozen supersolider that was being experimented on, brought back to test against man-made zombies (using "Dead Effect" technology!) In this sequel you are once again revived to fight the evil boss, which means more of you wandering through the ship killing everything, with a few escort missions and turret-manning bits to break it all up. Hacking terminals and doors is done with simple minigames that very much belie their mobile gaming heritage. I'm almost expecting a hidden object game to start up, or a mah-jong pair matching round.

They've upped the ante by adding in a lot of gear and ability upgrades, so it's now a very light scifi RPG. Unfortunately, they've also upped the horniness as your first contact is a woman in a tight dress, and presumably future textiles technology means that bras are no longer needed. The first time my default male character met her he was disappointed he didn't get a kiss for saving her. Ugh.
There is a lot of voice acting, but of the 3 people I've met so far (I'm only 3 levels in) there are 2 terrible accents. The "Russian" has to be heard to be believed.

There are still tablets in the levels that are written logs for some extra backstory, but they are no longer collectibles and are highlighted when you get close to them. The game still has secret "orbs" that need to be collected in each level, once gain strangely appearing as holographic arrow shapes you have to shoot. In the first game they unlocked bonus images and text, and I think it is the same here.

Gameplay-wise, it feels worse than the first DE. The game sometimes likes to stop you from switching weapons when you reload, and the base stun weapon is really weird on how much it lets you shoot - the visual feedback is terrible. If I can only fire it once per 10 seconds, why does it show an ammo count of 3? Also, the spongier enemies don't show much if any hit response which is not fun at all.

Anyway, it's usual price is AUD$17, and no-one in their right mind should pay that for it. Currently on special at 80% off, it's maybe worth that if you are into this sort of game. It's not so dire I won't finish it, but I couldn't recommend adding it to any wishlists.

Orv
May 4, 2011

americanzero4128 posted:

I'm looking at purchasing Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag. I only expect to play the single player. What version should I get? I'm looking at the Steam page, and there are some things that look worthwhile from the Gold Edition, namely:

The Trove of Mystery Pack: Iron Wheel & Astrolabe Relic
Pirates Bounty Pack: German Rapiers & Compass Relic
Sacrificed Secrets Pack: Dark and dangerous treasure-hunting mission on Sacrifice Island; Unlock Captain Drake's Dual Swords and Pistols, Picture, Title, and Relics
Hidden Mystery Pack: Adventurous treasure-hunting mission on Mystery Island; Unlock Stede Bonnet's Ship, Costumes and other MP items
Black Island Pack: Dark and dangerous treasure-hunting mission on Black Island; Unlock the Deadly Black Ship and Captain Morgan's Silver Flintlock Pistols, Costume, Picture, and Title

For someone who has played this before, are these worthwhile for single player, or are they filler junk that isn't worth it?

Almost all of that is for the dead MP modes and the stuff that isn't is very rote walk around an island and press F on a thing missions or not particularly thrilling cosmetics. I'd just get the base game and potentially a bundle with Freedom Cry if it exists.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

americanzero4128 posted:

Black Island Pack: Dark and dangerous treasure-hunting mission on Black Island; Unlock the Deadly Black Ship and Captain Morgan's Silver Flintlock Pistols, Costume, Picture, and Title
This one unlocks the best outfit in the game for what it's worth.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Oxxidation posted:

blind forest had some pretty glaring flubs like making sections of the map (and their associated collectibles) permanently inaccessible without warning, which the definitive edition corrected

wisps doesn't have anything like that to my recollection

I think Blind Forest also had some pretty tough and unforgiving Chase Sequences (at launch), that while beatable, became 50000% easier in Def Edition when they added a lot more mid-chase checkpoints and eased it up a bit.

I agree Wisps though doesn't feel like it needed one at all. It felt smooth and refined from start to finish. I can't even think of any place that needed more content, it's already well-paced.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

ZearothK posted:

How's Doorkickers 2? Reviews are very positive and the first game was excellent, but I am curious on the goon take.
Might want to think twice about supporting that developer. :yikes:

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!


lol throw another one onto the lovely Dev List also goddam don't read anything else in that thread

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

americanzero4128 posted:

I'm looking at purchasing Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag. I only expect to play the single player. What version should I get? I'm looking at the Steam page, and there are some things that look worthwhile from the Gold Edition, namely:

The Trove of Mystery Pack: Iron Wheel & Astrolabe Relic
Pirates Bounty Pack: German Rapiers & Compass Relic
Sacrificed Secrets Pack: Dark and dangerous treasure-hunting mission on Sacrifice Island; Unlock Captain Drake's Dual Swords and Pistols, Picture, Title, and Relics
Hidden Mystery Pack: Adventurous treasure-hunting mission on Mystery Island; Unlock Stede Bonnet's Ship, Costumes and other MP items
Black Island Pack: Dark and dangerous treasure-hunting mission on Black Island; Unlock the Deadly Black Ship and Captain Morgan's Silver Flintlock Pistols, Costume, Picture, and Title

For someone who has played this before, are these worthwhile for single player, or are they filler junk that isn't worth it?

Just get the base game. I don’t hate Freedom’s Cry but it is extremely short and basically the same thing as the rest.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

LLCoolJD posted:

I wasn't ever blown away by Halo but that and Goldeneye had a recognizable appeal to consoles gamers who didn't already experience Quake/UT99 and all of those other multiplayer FPS games in the mid/late 90s. Everyone needs a good FPS fix.

Even as someone who was also playing PC shooters at the time, playing console FPSes with friends on a couch together is something that was always way more fun and in hindsight valuable as an experience than doing online deathmatches even if they technically ran at a higher resolution or had faster turning speeds or whatever. PC gamers trying to be elitist about Goldeneye and Halo has always had real strong "Milhouse's dad trying to convince Homer that getting to sleep in a racecar bed is better than being married" vibes.

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

That's a common misconception, the guy did the optional Codec calls, which while absolutely outstanding, doesn't explain why the main bulk of the story also got worse. I think it's better to actually place the reduction of quality in writing at MGS2, since outside of the most key moments, there's a lot of really lovely writing there albeit with a fantastic big idea tying it together, and that's just Kojima through and through. MGS3 kinda gets away with it because Kojima's just doing a fun Cold War thriller. Apparently his writing is much better in Japanese, and it's his demands regarding translation that really hurt the quality overall in English.

Also Jeremy Blaustein, the guy who translated the original PSX version of MGS, did so without any input from Kojima and took more liberties trying to make it work better in English which is why that game has more of a pulpy heightened GI Joe vibe and flows a lot better in English. Afterward Kojima had him removed and made all future translations be closely supervised by him to be as direct and literal as possible, although a lot of iconic series terms like "codec" and "on-site procurement" that show up in future games are ones Blaustein invented whole cloth.

He's also responsible for Snatcher's English translation (again, with no oversight from Kojima) and the "What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets!" line from Symphony of the Night, the dude is a legend.

https://www.polygon.com/2019/7/18/20696081/metal-gear-solid-translation-japanese-english-jeremy-blaustein

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS
The developer changed the word to Tango (I went through the comments). If American units were using the original wording though, it'd be believable if used for authenticity. Doesn't work well for an item description though. It'd be more a voice-line thing that takes the current region into account. The change seems like a good one.

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


I'm looking at the following RPGs currently on sale. Are there any here that you guys have tried and disliked?

> Valkyria Chronicles 1 (Playing VC4 right now and really liking it, so I want to get this next)
> Disgaea 5 Complete (I read that the Steam version is missing some content compared to other platforms - am I better off getting the Switch or PS4 versions instead?
> Child of Light (Some negative reviews say there are launcher issues - have you guys experienced this?)
> Wasteland 2 (I read some complaints about how linear it is, which I'm not sure is an issue for me since I like Final Fantasy games :v:)
> I am Setsuna (The 90s-style RPG throwback vibe appeals to me, but I'm not sure the $10 sale price is worth it given how short it reportedly is)
> Darkest Dungeon (If this is as big a grindfest as some reviews make it out to be, I have no issues leaving it off my buy list)

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




anakha posted:

> I am Setsuna (The 90s-style RPG throwback vibe appeals to me, but I'm not sure the $10 sale price is worth it given how short it reportedly is)

HTLB says Setsuna is 20-25 hours

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


ketchup vs catsup posted:

HTLB says Setsuna is 20-25 hours

:doh: I should have known there was already a resource online that tracks this kinda stuff.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Jamfrost posted:

The developer changed the word to Tango (I went through the comments). If American units were using the original wording though, it'd be believable if used for authenticity. Doesn't work well for an item description though. It'd be more a voice-line thing that takes the current region into account. The change seems like a good one.

Someone casually putting a slur in a game and then deciding after the fact that maybe it was a bad idea (conveniently after being called out on it) isn't a great look, gently caress authenticity. Proceeding to try and play rhetorical chess with that "are you offended, or are you worried someone else might be offended :smuggo:" poo poo is an extremely bad look.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

John Murdoch posted:

Someone casually putting a slur in a game and then deciding after the fact that maybe it was a bad idea (conveniently after being called out on it) isn't a great look, gently caress authenticity. Proceeding to try and play rhetorical chess with that "are you offended, or are you worried someone else might be offended :smuggo:" poo poo is an extremely bad look.

If you read through the whole thread he explains it better.

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