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srulz posted:Can someone recommend me a game in which the dual-wielding feels super good & unique compared to sword & shield/2-handed? Preferably melee-based. The Dual Blades in Monster Hunter World sound right up your alley. It's a specific weapon class (not a variant of a single-handed weapon), so it feels completely different from the other weapons. MHW is good about that in general. The 14 weapon classes all feel unique, with even similar weapons differing enough that you'll have fans of one who can't get the hang of the other (I love Lance but don't like Gunlance, for example).
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Shine posted:The Dual Blades in Monster Hunter World sound right up your alley. It's a specific weapon class (not a variant of a single-handed weapon), so it feels completely different from the other weapons. MHW is good about that in general. The 14 weapon classes all feel unique, with even similar weapons differing enough that you'll have fans of one who can't get the hang of the other (I love Lance but don't like Gunlance, for example).
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srulz posted:Can someone recommend me a game in which the dual-wielding feels super good & unique compared to sword & shield/2-handed? Preferably melee-based. Skyrim mods for perk/combat overhauls make dual wielding very distinct, it's still Skyrim combat but a mod like Ordinator will let you specialise down a dual wielding route and give your build a noticeably unique flavour. For older games, Jedi Academy lets you pick between single saber, Darth Maul saber and dual wielding, they all feel very different and dual wield is a lot of fun
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srulz posted:Can someone recommend me a game in which the dual-wielding feels super good & unique compared to sword & shield/2-handed? Preferably melee-based. Dragon's Dogma?
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Thanks a lot for your answers everyone!Shine posted:The Dual Blades in Monster Hunter World sound right up your alley. It's a specific weapon class (not a variant of a single-handed weapon), so it feels completely different from the other weapons. MHW is good about that in general. The 14 weapon classes all feel unique, with even similar weapons differing enough that you'll have fans of one who can't get the hang of the other (I love Lance but don't like Gunlance, for example). Once upon a time ago I've tried really hard to get into this game, but just fails unfortunately. It may be because of the weapon choice at the time, so I'm going to try again with the dual blade, thanks. Lunchmeat Larry posted:Dark Souls 2 with its powerstancing combos is very good at this, 3 doesn't have powerstancing but does have good off-hand items like a parrying dagger and is actually a good game unlike 2. I'm kinda weird in the fact that I need to play a game fully in series, so can you recommend a build for Dark Souls 1 which will prepare me for this "powerstancing" thing in Dark Souls 2 please? Ordinator feels like a little bit too much of everything, I may need to study the game a bit I guess. Yeah, Jedi Academy is a fun example as well, especially the ones in which you can enable realistic sabres combat mod, that's pretty SolidSnakesBandana posted:Dragon's Dogma? I guess I have to start as Strider? So when exactly do I dual wield stuff? Seems like I'm pretty much a full-time archer.
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srulz posted:I'm kinda weird in the fact that I need to play a game fully in series, so can you recommend a build for Dark Souls 1 which will prepare me for this "powerstancing" thing in Dark Souls 2 please? I mean, they are all awesome games so that's a solid plan. Powerstance with dual weapons in DS2 is a tradeoff - more damage and more possibilities for the move-set in exchange for slower swings and a heavier fatigue cost. So far, I actually prefer dual-wielding out of power stance since it's possible to chain hits between the two weapons quite quickly, but I can always switch to powerstance against something big and slow. Swinging a weapon, blocking or dodging uses fatigue, which recharges fairly quickly but you really don't want to end a series of hits inside the range of a monster without being able to roll or block. So DS1, pick up a big slow two-handed weapon with a move-set you enjoy. Claymore is popular and you can get it pretty early, but play around with the stuff you find and choose whatever works for you. Class barely makes a difference, but warrior is as good a newbie start as any. 40 strength, stamina and vitality, minimum dex for whatever weapon you want to try. Don't go above 50% equip load, so light armour for the most part. Don't eschew shields, as you can switch between one and two-handing any weapon with a button press. It will expand your moveset, plus extra style points for swinging a demon great club with one hand or whatever. See you next year in the DS2 thread. Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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What are some non-roguelike games that take <10 hours to roll credits but are super replayable or with lots of side content? Resident evil 2 and Mario odyssey are good examples although I’m not really in a platformer mood.
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nachos posted:What are some non-roguelike games that take <10 hours to roll credits but are super replayable or with lots of side content? Resident evil 2 and Mario odyssey are good examples although I’m not really in a platformer mood. STREETS OF RAGE!!!
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srulz posted:I guess I have to start as Strider? So when exactly do I dual wield stuff? Seems like I'm pretty much a full-time archer. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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nachos posted:What are some non-roguelike games that take <10 hours to roll credits but are super replayable or with lots of side content? Resident evil 2 and Mario odyssey are good examples although I’m not really in a platformer mood. Westerado and the Stanley Parable I think are probably your best matches. Shovel Knight, Shadow of Mordor, Arkham Asylum, and Punch Club I think are close.
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exquisite tea posted:STREETS OF RAGE!!! Agreed. The characters feel different enough that swapping between them gives good replayability, and the higher difficulties force you to explore the depth of the combat system (positioning, i-frames in your attacks/combos, risk/reward of using special attacks, etc.). Streets of Rage 4 is stellar. House of the Dying Sun for space combat that plays well with a gamepad. As you get deeper into the game, you unlock more AI support ships, and can then replay early levels on higher difficulties and go after bonus objectives. The gameplay is pretty samey after a while, but it's a short enough game not to wear out its welcome. Excellent VR support too, if you care about that. If you like the look of Hades' gameplay but want something non-roguelike, then check out that its spiritual predecessor, Bastion. This is also a good title if you have a partner who likes to hang out in the room while you play games, as it has an incredible narrator moving the plot along as you play. I know you're not feeling platformers at the moment, but I'm gonna list a few anyway: Bionic Commando Rearmed (a platformer with swinging instead of jumping) holds up very well, and the timed bonus missions scratch a nice "earn all the stars!" itch. Everybody knows about this game already, but anyway, Shovel Knight has four campaigns, each well under 10 hours. Each character plays basically the same stages, but their playstyles are hella different (Specter Knight  ), and King Knight's campaign introduces a neat minigame on the side.I reinstall Mark of the Ninja every year or so. It's a wonderfully designed stealth platformer that adds replayability through the various costumes you can unlock, which give you bonuses tailored to various playstyles. My favorite is the one that makes guards panic if they see a dead body, which lets you do some brutal poo poo  . It doesn't force you into constant combat like Arkham does; if you'd rather do full stealth and sneak by without a trace, then you may do so. Or murder everybody. Do whatever.
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Shine posted:I reinstall Mark of the Ninja every year or so. It's a wonderfully designed stealth platformer that adds replayability through the various costumes you can unlock, which give you bonuses tailored to various playstyles. My favorite is the one that makes guards panic if they see a dead body, which lets you do some brutal poo poo This is a very good game and should be better known.
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Thanks for the recs. Streets of rage is a good one, it’s been on my wishlist forever
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nachos posted:What are some non-roguelike games that take <10 hours to roll credits but are super replayable or with lots of side content? Resident evil 2 and Mario odyssey are good examples although I’m not really in a platformer mood. Alpha Protocol should take you around 10 hr to finish, and the story is insanely reactive
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grate deceiver posted:Alpha Protocol should take you around 10 hr to finish, and the story is insanely reactive Alpha Protocol is legit amazing, but also has been removed from steam due to music licencing. 
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srulz posted:I'm kinda weird in the fact that I need to play a game fully in series, so can you recommend a build for Dark Souls 1 which will prepare me for this "powerstancing" thing in Dark Souls 2 please? Unfortunately DS1 doesn't have any real dual wielding mechanic, just "you can hold a weapon in each hand if you want". (Also just to be thorough DS3 does have dual wielding, it just ditches (near-)universal powerstancing for specific paired weapons.)
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Thank y'all for the coop recommendations!
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John Murdoch posted:Unfortunately DS1 doesn't have any real dual wielding mechanic, just "you can hold a weapon in each hand if you want". It doesn't mean you can't, it's just that all you get out of it is the moveset each weapon has for a given hand. I played a game with slow heavy mainhands + falchion offhand that went really well.
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Is there anything like Ring Fit Adventure that doesn't need a switch?
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LLSix posted:Is there anything like Ring Fit Adventure that doesn't need a switch? I used to play Dance Dance Revolution for exercise. I hear that a bunch of VR games can be decent workouts too. ...this doesn't really bring down the hardware price though, which is I assume why you were asking.
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Fruits of the sea posted:I mean, they are all awesome games so that's a solid plan. Powerstance with dual weapons in DS2 is a tradeoff - more damage and more possibilities for the move-set in exchange for slower swings and a heavier fatigue cost. So far, I actually prefer dual-wielding out of power stance since it's possible to chain hits between the two weapons quite quickly, but I can always switch to powerstance against something big and slow. Swinging a weapon, blocking or dodging uses fatigue, which recharges fairly quickly but you really don't want to end a series of hits inside the range of a monster without being able to roll or block. Last two points are really important there. I just did a no 1H playthrough for fun and several bosses (incl. the final boss) can be maddening with no shield.
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Hey, all, I'm in the mood for a point-and-click adventure game (it doesn't literally have to be point-and-click). I tried Night in the Woods since it was free on EGS, but there's way too much story between each "puzzle". Also, if possible I'd rather it be more on the funny side. Ideally, I'd lose all my memories of Monkey Island and play the Special Editions for the first time. I've played Thimbleweed Park and the one with the teenagers in the weird island.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Hey, all, I'm in the mood for a point-and-click adventure game (it doesn't literally have to be point-and-click). Tales from the Borderlands Dropsy Unavowed Machinarium Grim Fandango Full Throttle Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Dec 29, 2020 |
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Hey, all, I'm in the mood for a point-and-click adventure game (it doesn't literally have to be point-and-click). Funny but very short (less than 1 hour) and easy: Frog Detective 1-2 Not very comedic, but decent games: Blackwell series Pretty much anything else published by Wadjet Eye Kathy Rain Whispers of a Machine
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The Sam & Max games still exist. I bounced off of the first two chapters, but chapter 3, starting with episode 301, The Penal Zone was really solid. Or at least I dimly recall it being good, considering it's a game I played a decade ago. And you don't need to know anything about the previous entries to follow the games.
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Hwurmp posted:Tales from the Borderlands I had completely forgotten about the Tales series, looks like they're impossible to buy nowadays. I'll check the others out, I think I did play the Sam and Max but can't find in my Steam library. Thanks!
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Tales of Monkey Island is real good. There's also Telltale's Sam & Max. Ordinarily, I'd say that you should consider just skipping to Season 3: The Devil's Playhouse, since it's the best one and the earlier seasons are kinda rough but apparently there was just a remaster of Season 1 released. Also Puzzle Agent, which is like a silly version of Twin Peaks crossed with Professor Layton and Strongbad's Cool Game For Attractive People. Telltale made some really great adventure games before they got into their Walking Dead drama rut. Outside of Telltale, I guess there's the Deponia games, which are fun, but do suffer from having a resolutely horrible main character. And if you're interested in things that are just similar to adventure games, maybe you'd want to try a visual novel? (reaches ominously inside trenchcoat) https://store.steampowered.com/app/787480/Phoenix_Wright_Ace_Attorney_Trilogy/ https://www.gog.com/game/va11_halla
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Hey, all, I'm in the mood for a point-and-click adventure game (it doesn't literally have to be point-and-click). I'm going to strongly recommend against the King's Quest reboot from some years ago. It's complete trash, at least based on the free chapter they released. The puzzles are cake, the most interesting parts of the game (such as escaping from a dragon that just noticed you) are automatically resolved via cutscene, the narrator is trying way too hard to be folksy, and every little cutscene is unskippable, even if reloading after death. The original King's Quest games were full of utter bullshit puzzles meant to sell hint books, but at least those games were charming as hell, which is why anybody cares about them 30 years later. The reboot has zero charm and zero challenge. I was so disappointed 
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Chamale posted:I like games where an orderly situation turns into chaos, with a bunch of moving parts that can get broken. Then you have to either repair the situation, or escape. Some games that do this well include Left 4 Dead, FTL, Project Winter, and the board game Roborally. What are some other games like this? For anyone wondering, I just got XCOM 2 for Christmas and it's one of my new favourites. Anyone who enjoys FTL should absolutely get this game. The moment where a concealed squad launches an ambush, or gets discovered and starts taking fire, is fantastic. I've had some heroic escapes where a couple wounded soldier desperately covers the person carrying vital intel to the evac zone.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:I had completely forgotten about the Tales series, looks like they're impossible to buy nowadays. To add one more recommendation, maybe 428 Shibuya Scramble? It's a visual novel where you jump between characters and between time to influence the outcome of the story. Maybe you get a bad ending at 12pm with Character 3. So you go back to 10am with Character 1 to try and influence what happens when they bump into each other at 11am. It has a pretty silly, campy tone, so might be up your alley!
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LLSix posted:Is there anything like Ring Fit Adventure that doesn't need a switch? Beat Saber is great if you have VR.
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All I know of for exercise games is Zombie Run.
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SlothfulCobra posted:All I know of for exercise games is Zombie Run.
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Is there anything like ToME but with aliens and scifi instead of wizards and fantasy?
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Kvlt! posted:Is there anything like ToME but with aliens and scifi instead of wizards and fantasy? Caves of Qud, kinda, but it's closer to a normal roguelike than ToME's hotkeys model
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Kvlt! posted:Is there anything like ToME but with aliens and scifi instead of wizards and fantasy? Agree on Caves of Qud. Really just play Caves of Qud.
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Kvlt! posted:Is there anything like ToME but with aliens and scifi instead of wizards and fantasy? Sword of the Stars : The Pit
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For adventure games, you could try Ben There, Dan That and their sequels, Time Gentlemen, Please! and Lair of the Clockwork God. The first two are old and cheap as chips, the third came out this year and is an adventure/platformer hybrid that messes with both genres.
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Does anyone know of a decent online poker option for playing with friends? Pokerstars seems to get recommended a lot, but there doesn't seem to be any way to turn off the 8 second time limit for making bets in that, which is a bit more intense than we'd like. We just wanna take our time and shoot the poo poo on Zoom while we play. We can always sort out winnings via bank transfers afterwards, so it doesn't matter if the game can't handle real money transactions; it just needs to deal cards, raise blinds on a timer, and count chips. Any recommendations?
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Pipski posted:Does anyone know of a decent online poker option for playing with friends? Pokerstars seems to get recommended a lot, but there doesn't seem to be any way to turn off the 8 second time limit for making bets in that, which is a bit more intense than we'd like. We just wanna take our time and shoot the poo poo on Zoom while we play. We can always sort out winnings via bank transfers afterwards, so it doesn't matter if the game can't handle real money transactions; it just needs to deal cards, raise blinds on a timer, and count chips. Any recommendations? Tabletop Simulator will definitely do this. Tabletop Simulator comes with poker, and it's built to be configurable and moddable, so you should be able to make it function exactly as you want. If you're only interested in poker, a more lightweight browser based thing could be better though, I wouldn't know about those.
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