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GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Tubgoat posted:

Considering how much time Alphabet Soup et al had to clean the place up, it's frankly weird that we even know about the labeled videos, unless thst was a limited hangout for reasons.
Doesn't even have to be an alphabet soup agency, just screen potential employees to make sure they're "so what about the age of consent? Puberty is puberty." Libertarians and you have a 100% civilian crew whose seasonal bonus is getting to rape young teenagers. You could probably get a whole island's worth of staff by recruiting creeps from Reddit.

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Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

epsteins island is connected to the nwos secret underground hypersonic train system that connects all the secret underground government bases in the world together.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

GWBBQ posted:

If it's plausible, any sort of evidence is fine. I am fully convinced that Epstein was an intelligence asset, and disinformation was widespread after he was killed by whoever had the means to do it. Considering it took over a month after Epstein's arrest for the FBI to raid LSJ, solid evidence available to the general public is hard to find. I'm 100% sure there's a lot that's been covered up or destroyed, but any assertion without evidence is nothing but speculation.

when you ask for evidence who are you asking to provide it. the media who has been shown they’re supposed to cover this stuff up? the politicians who are involved in the first place? of course it’s going to be speculation.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

nut
Jul 30, 2019


lmao

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006


True evil right there.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
welp, if that's the profile of a terrorist nowadays....

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

The thing that makes me think it wasn’t part of a domestic gladio is that he seemed to have some concern for human life. He’s loving Ghandi compared to anyone we talk about in this thread.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

The thing that makes me think it wasn’t part of a domestic gladio is that he seemed to have some concern for human life. He’s loving Ghandi compared to anyone we talk about in this thread.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
This entire thread focuses on crimes that amount to intentionally hidden unknowns. Unknowns that are guaranteed to be bigger in scope and weirder than poo poo even we can think of. Speculation is all we can do to try to make satisfying guesses and models of what's happening in the unknowns. If the speculation too basic then it absolutely can't be right, because the organizations we are studying are 100% dedicated to hiding more than meets the eye, as they've done for their entire histories with misdirection campaigns for covering up crimes. Fact check all you want but there is no point in attacking a hypothesis with occam's razor in such an environment. Just let people make their guesses.

Happy Thread has issued a correction as of 12:24 on Dec 29, 2020

nut
Jul 30, 2019

Happy Thread posted:

This entire thread focuses on intentionally hidden unknowns. Unknowns that are guaranteed to be bigger and weirder than poo poo even we can think of. Speculation is all we can do to try to make satisfying guesses and models of what's happening in the unknowns. If the speculation too basic then it absolutely can't be right, because the organizations we are studying are 100% dedicated to hiding more than meets the eye, as they've done for their entire histories with misdirection campaigns. Fact check all you want but there is no point in attacking a hypothesis with occam's razor in such an environment. Just let people make their guesses.

Forever ago I posted about a book I came across and ended up later reading called Think Tank Aesthetics by Pamela Lee. In it, she traces how she believes the founding and success of RAND and other prominent think tanks arising during the cold war shaped academic disciplines with their now heavy focus on mathematically modelling, operations research, and use of cybernetics for manipulative/military gain first, and anything else second. Pamela Lee is an art historian so the book overwhelmingly looks at the interface between operations research and art/art history. It was a real tough read for me because I have no background in humanities but the longer it sits with me the more powerful I think it is. She ultimately argues that the thought processes and motives of think tanks have transformed into a blanketing aesthetic over much of western society that feeds off of constant confusion/misinformation, open secrets (letter agencies operate publicly, harbouring off limits secrets), and the eradication of history (she argues that think tank aesthetics support the idea that a pollack painting is like an inkblot because, under their approach, both can be reduced to visual art that needs to be decoded, akin to the heavy focus on decoding other cultures and intercepted messaging during the cold war. to them, the history/context of each work is secondary, at best).

Whereas I understand why Lee starts post ww2 because she traces the line from think tanks to how we treat humanities in the modern day, I think anyone in this thread would agree that there's a larger process that started earlier, and that this academic perversion is just one facet of it. Anyways, super weird but cool book that ends up characterizing modern day media exemplified by how we read bout events like this.

hseroK divaD
Jun 3, 2011

Creepy Richard will keep leering at you NON-STOP!

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

The thing that makes me think it wasn’t part of a domestic gladio is that he seemed to have some concern for human life. He’s loving Ghandi compared to anyone we talk about in this thread.

Yup, killdozer 2.0 :killdozer:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1343941726252261379?s=19

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

at this point I'm not convinced the Third Reich ever ended

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Atrocious Joe posted:

at this point I'm not convinced the Third Reich ever ended

There's something I share the same feeling about, sometimes.

There's a lot of poo poo with dulles that's too creepy to ignore too.

I'm looking for the tweet that showed all the nazi high command who got planted in NATO in the cold war.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Fascists are like cockroaches, for every one you see there are a whole bunch more that you don't. Germany's anti-hate laws are generally good, but you're occasionally going to have someone who doesn't need external motivation and learns how to keep their mouth shut.

Atrocious Joe posted:

at this point I'm not convinced the Third Reich ever ended
We might be up to Reich 3.5, but yeah.

nut
Jul 30, 2019

Atrocious Joe posted:

at this point I'm not convinced the Third Reich ever ended

https://twitter.com/olaasm/status/1343969054290145280?s=21

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Atrocious Joe posted:

at this point I'm not convinced the Third Reich ever ended

the empire never ended

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

I remember hearing that Ghislaine fled the country during the exact window when the Customs and Border Patrol system went down nation wide. Has anyone found an article of something that links to that?

Because "random pot-head guy manages to take down the communications for a large section of the country for several hours despite it not being publicly known that said building was a major node for communications infrastructure" reminds me of that for, uh, reasons.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Wasabi the J posted:

There's something I share the same feeling about, sometimes.

There's a lot of poo poo with dulles that's too creepy to ignore too.

I'm looking for the tweet that showed all the nazi high command who got planted in NATO in the cold war.

This thread:

https://twitter.com/lukacsleninist/status/982680983383060482?s=19

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

I remember hearing that Ghislaine fled the country during the exact window when the Customs and Border Patrol system went down nation wide. Has anyone found an article of something that links to that?

Because "random pot-head guy manages to take down the communications for a large section of the country for several hours despite it not being publicly known that said building was a major node for communications infrastructure" reminds me of that for, uh, reasons.

I dunno if there's clear evidence of that, but at the same time there were conflicting reports coming out about her location. Speculation was that between that misdirection and the outage, she could have been anywhere and gone to anywhere.

Anyway, the strange and spectacular suicide attack by a random rich older white man with no serious motivation reminds me more of Stephen Paddock, personally. Not sure what you can really say about either except they seem sus.

Paffgen
Jul 13, 2009
You guys ever heard of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Waldheim?
"Kurt Waldheim was an Austrian politician and diplomat. Waldheim was the fourth Secretary-General of the United Nations from 1972 to 1981, and President of Austria from 1986 to 1992. While he was running for the latter office in the 1986 election, the revelation of his service in Greece and Yugoslavia, as an intelligence officer in Nazi Germany's Wehrmacht during World War II, raised international controversy."

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Delta-Wye posted:

the empire never ended

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

Atrocious Joe posted:

at this point I'm not convinced the Third Reich ever ended

the amazon documentary Hunters

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1344736665844109312?s=20

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
:catstare:
Bein' a lizardperson must be hella nice.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Tubgoat posted:

:catstare:
Bein' a lizardperson must be hella nice.

You get to do whatever you want so long as you only want horrifying things

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

You get to do whatever you want so long as you only want horrifying things

Sure what it seems like.

A Real Hologram
Jun 22, 2018

Moo!
Epstein is alive

says this guy

https://twitter.com/llinwood/status/1344652363861258243?s=21

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
That tweet isn't proof of anything however I'll say again that I literally never believed he was dead and still don't

A death is an easy enough thing to fake (easier if the person is already dead- see UBL)

Armadillo Tank
Mar 26, 2010

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1345097350205865987

New York Post posted:

The 38-year-old woman was found face-down with a belt around her neck in the bedroom of her East 45th Street apartment shortly after noon, the sources said.
posted in succ zone as well

this threads been poo poo on from /r/conspiracy poo poo but still closest match to quality weird suicide of diplomats news

Cached Money
Apr 11, 2010

Armadillo Tank posted:

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1345097350205865987

posted in succ zone as well

this threads been poo poo on from /r/conspiracy poo poo but still closest match to quality weird suicide of diplomats news

classic Clinton style suicide

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

Cached Money posted:

classic Clinton style suicide

socks sends his regards

Ziggy Smalls
May 24, 2008

If pain's what you
want in a man,
Pain I can do

What I had heard from a dominatrix opposing SISEA is that it bases a person's legal ability to create pornography off of the age of consent in the state it was created. Plenty of US states have their own age of consent at 16.

EDIT: Uhhhh i just checked and 33/50 states have 16 as the age of consent. So they're effectively lowering the usual age requirement of 18 to 16 in most states. Gross.

Ziggy Smalls has issued a correction as of 10:38 on Jan 2, 2021

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Just in time for a total institutional collapse that causes almost everyone in the nation to enter desperate poverty

It's almost like they planned this

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
"16? Too old."- Ephraim Jeffstein

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Ziggy Smalls posted:

What I had heard from a dominatrix opposing SISEA is that it bases a person's legal ability to create pornography off of the age of consent in the state it was created. Plenty of US states have their own age of consent at 16.

EDIT: Uhhhh i just checked and 33/50 states have 16 as the age of consent. So they're effectively lowering the usual age requirement of 18 to 16 in most states. Gross.

I don't know anything about this but does the age of consent change have anything to do with smart phones being ubiquitous and teenagers taking photos of themselves and sharing with their partners, creating child pornography?

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Makes sense why trump loudly demanded this be repealed right away?

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nut
Jul 30, 2019

I think you can definitely argue that lowering the age of consent would benefit many porn site owners who already host material that skirts the line problematically (of age and of porn vs not porn) and also hosts of revenge porn, which from what I can tell gets punished primarily for the revenge aspect while ignoring that minors are also often involved

I tried to look up sisea articles but got too grossed out when tiktok ads came up for all of them

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