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Finicums Wake posted:Hey man, it's January 2nd I don’t get it.
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twistedmentat posted:Also, Harry Potter is hugely important to a lot of people, and even if JKR is a giant piece of poo poo, a lot of those people are not going to just dump what HP means to them. Also we do seem to give things made by lovely men a pass, though HP Lovecraft and Roddenberry are both dead so they're not profiting off the stuff anymore. Graham Linehan is also a TERF who created/co-created three of my favorite shows of all time (Father Ted, Black Books, and The IT Crowd), and ever since he revealed himself to be a crap person I haven't re-watched any of 'em, nor do I plan to. That's just me, maybe I just have a hard time separating the art from the artist, but it'd just feel wrong to me to watch one of Glinner's shows now. I would imagine there are several people who also had a similar struggle once Rowling revealed herself to be a bad person.
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Jan 2, 2021 15:28
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Bringing Jack back but writing him out with a voice-over only? Oof.
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Jan 2, 2021 15:37
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Open Source Idiom posted:Not wholly, unfortunately. He's in at least one more, as yet unreleased, story, that they recorded years and years ago. But they're not advertising his presence, and he'll not be credited on the cover. I haven't listened to Masterful yet, but the implication I got from the cover art and such is that they brought back the character of the First Master, but played by Milo Parker as a younger version, so they could lean into having that incarnation without reusing an openly transphobe actor
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Jan 2, 2021 16:03
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jivjov posted:I haven't listened to Masterful yet, but the implication I got from the cover art and such is that they brought back the character of the First Master, but played by Milo Parker as a younger version, so they could lean into having that incarnation without reusing an openly transphobe actor I'm an hour in, and he's a very different character. Also there's at least one Master in this cast who's not credited on the website, already. An incarnation played by Gina McKee.
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Jan 2, 2021 16:05
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https://twitter.com/RichardsonBF/status/1345352598925271040?s=20
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Jan 2, 2021 16:11
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Honestly, I never liked Ryan and Yaz as companions, because they basically had no character, and didn't give the actors anything to do or work with most of the time. Bradley Walsh is charismatic, but Graham was basically just him playing himself. They were a big downgrade from Bill Potts. So who actually ran the prison - I thought the Judoon were just bounty hunters who captured fugitives and delivered them for trial? And if the Judoon arrested the Doctor for crimes committed as Ruth, why didn't they do so previously? The Timeless Child retcon just brings out so many plot holes and nonsense questions - it didn't make the character of the Doctor more mysterious, just underminded a lot of other stories. The Doctor got bored of the Time Lords, stole a TARDIS with his grand daughter, learnt how to become a hero, and started having adventures in space and time, that's all you need as an origin story.
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Jan 2, 2021 17:43
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But my overly complex, stupid and audience alienating myth arc tho  .
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Jan 2, 2021 18:34
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saving grace of the episode was not having any forced reference to xmas. otherwise pretty mediocre wasn't it? Burkion posted:Question anyone explain this for those of us who've never read / seen Potter? which bit of the episode was that
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Jan 2, 2021 18:37
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The Doctor spends decades in prison but doesn’t escape? Come on. It should’ve been just a few months. Actually the whole prison idea seemed to be there so the companions would have to work on their own, but they don’t accomplish anything. It just should’ve been dropped entirely. The image of lots of Daleks flooding into the TARDIS was fun but stupid if you thought about it for more than a second. And destroying the other TARDIS seemed pretty extreme. It was just a loose end Chibnall needed to get rid of. I don’t know why people would believe that Noth did anything to destroy the Daleks. You could interpret it as a comment on the fact that rich and powerful people control the media narrative but I don’t think it was deliberate. And then there’s the awful Timeless Child stuff and Gallifrey being completely destroyed for good this time, we mean it. I sort of wish Chibnall had never advanced past being a dumb fan complaining about Vervoids.
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Jan 2, 2021 18:39
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When the Doctor was talking about the bedtime story being a 'classic', I thought they were going to do a little continuity nod to a classic serial, those are cute when done well.There's just so much more than could have been done with the Doctor in prison, it feels like wasted potential that it was just used as a set-up for the "companions sad" plot element. It's odd that whenever you mention Doctor Who, people smugly reply that they haven't watched it since David Tennant left, which is a shame, because they missed some fun stuff. I liked Moffat's run on the show a lot, especially with the 12th Doctor. Actually, the 12th Doctor was great overall.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:02
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I tried really hard to watch 12's first season I just couldn't get in to it  I was really not liking his doctor so much I was 100% ready to believe that part where Clara said she was the doctor.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:12
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12 was awesome. The way he develops over the span of his tenure was awesome. His sonic shades and electric guitar was awesome. Peter Capaldi is awesome.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:20
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Yannick_B posted:Bringing Jack back but writing him out with a voice-over only? Oof. They had all this filmed in early 2020? They maybe reshot the last 10 minutes when the resignations were official. And couldn't get him in.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:23
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Really should've used Rocktor Who for Series 10 though
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Jan 2, 2021 19:32
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Cerv posted:saving grace of the episode was not having any forced reference to xmas. When the Doc was in prison and she tells herself a bedtime story, she quotes the opening line of the first Harry Potter book
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Jan 2, 2021 19:59
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The prison should have been run by a Dalek in a Judoon suit.
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Jan 2, 2021 20:07
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happyhippy posted:The prison should have been run by a Dalek in a Judoon suit. You wear a disguise To look like rhino guys But you’re not a man You’re a Kaled Judoon
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Jan 2, 2021 20:10
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jivjov posted:When the Doc was in prison and she tells herself a bedtime story, she quotes the opening line of the first Harry Potter book but had forgotten the scene as soon as it happened.
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Jan 2, 2021 20:16
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Started Season 11 yesterday. I like the new Doctor so far, but yeesh, this Rosa Parks episode was hard to swallow. There have to be infinite ways they could've approached this episode where they don't make Doctor Who and co participate in racial discrimination.
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Jan 2, 2021 20:16
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Graham Linehan is also a TERF who created/co-created three of my favorite shows of all time (Father Ted, Black Books, and The IT Crowd), and ever since he revealed himself to be a crap person I haven't re-watched any of 'em, nor do I plan to. That's just me, maybe I just have a hard time separating the art from the artist, but it'd just feel wrong to me to watch one of Glinner's shows now. I would imagine there are several people who also had a similar struggle once Rowling revealed herself to be a bad person. This is how I am with HP personally. I used to watch the movies every year and I was rereading the books slowly, but when she decided that she had really important thoughts about the existance of Trans people that had to be known, I just can't. But I have friends, mostly women, who cannot give up HP. What are they going to do, get their entire Hogwarts sleeve removed? One told me reading HP as a young teen gave them hope because they had a really lovely home life growing up, but she is really pissed off about the whole thing due to her younger sibling being a trans person and just in general. I did like how the Government would rather find a new way to beat people up than actually fix the root causes of unrest.
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Jan 2, 2021 20:58
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OldMemes posted:When the Doctor was talking about the bedtime story being a 'classic', I thought they were going to do a little continuity nod to a classic serial, those are cute when done well. It wouldn’t have made sense, but I’d have loved to hear ‘Doctor Who was a happy man...’ from the beginning of the novelisation of The Dæmons!
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Jan 2, 2021 20:59
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Show still not really worth watching, eh? Shame.
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Jan 2, 2021 21:10
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Dabir posted:Show still not really worth watching, eh? Shame. I didn't think it was half as bad as some people did, and Jodie Whittaker is really good as the Doctor.
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Jan 2, 2021 21:13
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OldMemes posted:I didn't think it was half as bad as some people did, and Jodie Whittaker is really good as the Doctor. Agreed. Not mentioned yet was the discordance of the conversation between Ryan and the Doctor during their inexplicably long travel to Osaka. Ryan: Man, you left us for 10 months. Cold. So, how was your trip back home anyway? Doctor: Everyone and thing is dead and destroyed. Ryan: You know a lot changes in 10 months right? I got me mates right? 
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Jan 2, 2021 21:46
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twistedmentat posted:But I have friends, mostly women, who cannot give up HP. What are they going to do, get their entire Hogwarts sleeve removed? One told me reading HP as a young teen gave them hope because they had a really lovely home life growing up, but she is really pissed off about the whole thing due to her younger sibling being a trans person and just in general. i mean, there's a difference between someone maintaining a connection to a work that was personally significant to them or even just continuing to enjoy the books, and someone having the hero of their tv show advertise them now that we know that the author is poo poo
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Jan 2, 2021 21:50
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"Time for a story. One that started as a mild curiosity in a junkyard and turned into quite a tale of adventure through space and time..."
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Jan 2, 2021 21:55
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Bilirubin posted:Agreed. Did the Doctor even mention the prison to them? I can't remember now. I wonder if the line about having bad blood between the Doctor and Dalek saucers in the time vortex was meant to be a sneaky Time Lord Victorious nod?
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Jan 2, 2021 21:56
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OldMemes posted:Did the Doctor even mention the prison to them? I can't remember now. Yeah when she first appeared back she excitedly exclaimed that and it was quickly ignored. Think she got shoved shortly after in fact.
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Jan 2, 2021 21:57
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I’ve noticed one of Chibnall’s things is a quiet conversation scene where two people just talk about Things. They’re often music free, go on for slightly too long, and nothing else happens in that moment. The Doctor and Ryan had one in Revolution about her leaving them for 10 months (and however long it was from her perspective - Jack was in there for 19 years just trying to get to her, and she’d clearly been there muuuuuch longer). But every time they do one, they stop the episode’s flow dead.
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Jan 2, 2021 22:03
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Bilirubin posted:Yeah when she first appeared back she excitedly exclaimed that and it was quickly ignored. Think she got shoved shortly after in fact. That is the last two series. And Chibnall's run. Do something, then ignore it for something else 10 seconds later. Then briefly mention it again 4 episodes time to trick people into thinking its all tied up.
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Jan 2, 2021 22:09
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OldMemes posted:I didn't think it was half as bad as some people did, and Jodie Whittaker is really good as the Doctor. appreciate it, but there's plenty I could be doing with my time that gets better reviews than "not as bad as everyone says and has one good actor"
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Jan 2, 2021 22:18
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Dabir posted:appreciate it, but there's plenty I could be doing with my time that gets better reviews than "not as bad as everyone says and has one good actor" No one who posts in a thread for a show they arent interested in watching has anything important to do with their time.
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Jan 2, 2021 22:36
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I can't wait to see how they continue to not use Yaz next (Glances at the calendar) ...next year?
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Jan 2, 2021 22:37
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happyhippy posted:That is the last two series. And Chibnall's run. It really is too bad because I really like this Doctor. But for a farewell to two companions it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. When Sarah Jane gave the Doctor poo poo for abandoning her it was really deserved. This just seemed small and pissy, especially given 1) long time in jail and 2) Galifrey destroyed. Let alone having to rewrite your entire self narrative.
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Jan 2, 2021 22:59
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Burkion posted:I can't wait to see how they continue to not use Yaz next Sometime later this year, from what they've advertised
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Jan 2, 2021 23:14
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They're filming now, but then again this latest episode was filmed in October 2019.
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Jan 2, 2021 23:37
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Jan 2, 2021 23:46
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OldMemes posted:I didn't think it was half as bad as some people did, and Jodie Whittaker is really good as the Doctor. The casting for the show is really, really good, and Jodie Whittaker is fantastic. The writing is what is letting everything down, and I really wish Chibnall would realize that just because he's the showrunner doesn't meant he has to write 60+ percent of every season, because with rare exceptions his writing for Who has usually been mediocre at best. Give me more episodes like It Takes You Away please. That was loving awesome.
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