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Memento posted:Sauron is patient. Lava turns into rock, weathers into sediments, gets washed up in a stream, someone will find it. I think Gandalf outright says something along those lines. You could throw it into the sea, bury it underground- it's loving magic, it'll find a way back. The ring has a will of its own, and isn't entirely controllable by anyone including even Sauron himself. (Funny thing is there's a theory that the ring's got a bit of a death wish and may have basically engineered its own destruction) That and Sauron's making one big effort to conquer the world even without it just because having it out there means he's unkillable.
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Jan 1, 2021 05:27
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Even frodo couldn't do it. It's absolutely corrupting in every way. Feels like some kind of allegory or something I dunno
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Jan 1, 2021 05:31
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The Ring is less a religion temptation and more of a drug. Sam can't (and won't risk) touching the thing because it's addictive and he has no interest in the high, but he can tie Frodo to the bed and flush his cocaine down the toilet for him until he's gone cold turkey.
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Jan 1, 2021 06:44
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Well as the saying goes, the Ring is absolute power. No one is above that temptation, and it's kind of slick that even Sam knows that much and so does not allow himself the option.
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Jan 1, 2021 07:19
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And then the one time he puts it on it tries to tempt him with the worlds biggest garden and hes like no that would never work its much too big for me
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Jan 1, 2021 08:06
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Casnorf posted:Well as the saying goes, the Ring is absolute power. No one is above that temptation, and it's kind of slick that even Sam knows that much and so does not allow himself the option. It just needs absolute responsibility.
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Jan 1, 2021 09:13
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/Gandalf, standing in the doorway Tom, I have discussed this with your wife and she agrees there will be no more bomb rear end Goldberry Pussy until you drop this ring in that Volcano <twelve hours later Sauron's tower is a smoking crater and Tom is dancing homeward, already loosening his trousers>
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Jan 1, 2021 09:20
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Lmao if you think Goldberry was anymore willing to give up that Bomadil dick
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Jan 1, 2021 09:44
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Dunk a dill pickle-o Tom Bombadillo
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Jan 1, 2021 10:41
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christmas boots posted:And then the one time he puts it on it tries to tempt him with the worlds biggest garden and hes like no that would never work its much too big for me Sam's great virtue in the books is that he knows his place is among the lower class, serving his betters (and dying with them if appropriate even if it would achieve nothing but doom the world). Of course he would never aspire to have a big garden, but if the Ring had offered Frodo a big garden for Sam to work in he'd have been all over it. He's Tolkien's idealised servant; drinking, loving and fawning over master. It's pretty disgusting.
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Jan 1, 2021 16:06
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sassassin posted:He's Tolkien's idealised servant; drinking, loving and fawning over master. It's pretty disgusting. When you put it that way... His big virtue is worshipping some other god before raw, unrestrained ambition. What an interesting take, and a great big double bird to CS Lewis.
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Jan 1, 2021 16:30
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Casnorf posted:When you put it that way... His big virtue is worshipping some other god before raw, unrestrained ambition. What an interesting take, and a great big double bird to CS Lewis. The Inklings sounds like the worst club ever. Just two grown men endlessly arguing about why Santa Claus should/shouldn't be in your fantasy stories.
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Jan 1, 2021 16:35
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yeah for sure that's way worse than a message board thread about how the rules for time travel in a star trek movie just don't hold water when you really think about it
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Jan 1, 2021 17:20
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Alhazred posted:The Inklings sounds like the worst club ever. Just two grown men endlessly arguing about why Santa Claus should/shouldn't be in your fantasy stories. Have a Splatfest over it.
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Jan 1, 2021 17:48
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sassassin posted:Sam's great virtue in the books is that he knows his place is among the lower class, serving his betters (and dying with them if appropriate even if it would achieve nothing but doom the world). Of course he would never aspire to have a big garden, but if the Ring had offered Frodo a big garden for Sam to work in he'd have been all over it. They were friends.
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Jan 1, 2021 19:11
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I never really got into Wonder Woman's movies, but from the trailers, she looks to be the only kid on the island? How did her family/the Amazons explain that to her?
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Jan 1, 2021 23:07
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:They were friends. Asexual relationships with no power dynamic do not exist obviously. All life is a tool to bend to my will and no other reason.
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Jan 1, 2021 23:29
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Cowslips Warren posted:I never really got into Wonder Woman's movies, but from the trailers, she looks to be the only kid on the island? How did her family/the Amazons explain that to her? She was made out of clay and found in a cabbage patch
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Jan 2, 2021 00:02
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Cowslips Warren posted:I never really got into Wonder Woman's movies, but from the trailers, she looks to be the only kid on the island? How did her family/the Amazons explain that to her? She was actually Kassandra from AC: Odyssey.  I don't know the actual answer but maybe read through this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(2017_film)#Plot
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Jan 2, 2021 00:13
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I love Mad Max Fury Road, but I can't help but think that if Max, who is obviously a prisoner, showed up to the war rig and said "Uh, hey. Any chance you could cut me loose, too?" that it would have saved him some trouble.
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Jan 2, 2021 04:22
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:She was actually Kassandra from AC: Odyssey. Doesn't say anything about her being the only kid, so I don't know? Is anyone else kinda sad to see the trailer for Earwig and the Witch? I know "gotta move with the times" but it seriously looks like all the CGI crap spun out by poo poo studios instead of the one that did Spirited Away and the like.
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Jan 2, 2021 14:55
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10 Beers posted:I love Mad Max Fury Road, but I can't help but think that if Max, who is obviously a prisoner, showed up to the war rig and said "Uh, hey. Any chance you could cut me loose, too?" that it would have saved him some trouble. He was feral at the time.
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Jan 2, 2021 21:31
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:They were friends. They don't really become friends in the book until they return to the Shire and Sam becomes mayor (which obviously doesn't make him gentry but no longer peasant-class). The films change their relationship a lot so they're out drinking together before the story even gets started, and Sam doesn't have to come in and clean up the morning after the big party (which is one of the funniest bits of early LotR, "everyone" was invited but then suddenly he acknowledges the help's existence in the world). In the book everyone is shocked to discover Sam's not illiterate. They barely know each other beyond Master & Servant roles. Sam is appreciated like an exceptionally loyal and affectionate (boy is he physically affectionate) dog.
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Jan 2, 2021 23:32
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Lmao if you think Sam was actually his gardener and that wasnt just a cover to explain to the remarkably (even for the time) homophobic hobbits of the shire why Sam was always over at his house
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Jan 2, 2021 23:49
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Sam is Frodo's father. He was only 45 when he gave birth, and to avoid scandal, Bilbo pretended that Sam was their gardener.
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Jan 2, 2021 23:54
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Warningchristmas boots posted:Lmao if you think Sam was actually his gardener and that wasnt just a cover to explain to the remarkably (even for the time) homophobic hobbits of the shire why Sam was always over at his house Carthag Tuek posted:Sam is Frodo's father. He was only 45 when he gave birth, and to avoid scandal, Bilbo pretended that Sam was their gardener. These are mutually exclusive theories. Do NOT combine them.
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Jan 3, 2021 00:12
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christmas boots posted:
Definitely dont combine them in a google search bar.
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Jan 3, 2021 00:42
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Pippin is the barely-legal hobbit spending all his time at a 50 year old man's house in the books. Sam just carries their bags on the first leg of the journey as they take a scenic walk to Frodo's new house in "queer" country. Everyone in Hobbiton had been suspicious of young Frodo coming to live with his rich eccentric lifelong bachelor uncle in the first place. Sam's dad (living in a nice house at the bottom of the hill owned by Bilbo) never had a bad word to say about them, though. Even after Bilbo started teaching Sam poetry. The films scrub a lot of the unseemly age and power/class gaps between the hobbits. It's a good change in terms of making them more relatable. But Elijah Wood in one of the twink roles could have been interesting.
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Jan 3, 2021 04:42
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christmas boots posted:Lmao if you think Sam was actually his gardener and that wasnt just a cover to explain to the remarkably (even for the time) homophobic hobbits of the shire why Sam was always over at his house Films anyway it's pretty clear Sam is at best weakly bisexual (with a high het bias) given how much he pines after Rose, much to the disappointment of Frodo who is still gay even in the films (I mean, he winds up on a cruise with his confirmed bachelor uncle, Ian McKellen, and a bunch of fairies, it's not even SUBtext at that point). You can see it when they get out of Mount Doom; Frodo's all getting close to Sam until he mentions Rose then Frodo is obviously disappointed. I assume the real reason he sails to the West is to get over the heartache even more than the Ring.
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Jan 3, 2021 05:14
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You'd think the One Ring woulda offered Frodo something he actually wanted.
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Jan 3, 2021 05:34
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Something something Sam destroying Frodo's ring.
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Jan 3, 2021 05:43
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it would be pretty messed up if the ring made frodo gently caress his dad pretty sure tolkien wouldnt go that far
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Jan 3, 2021 05:53
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Carthag Tuek posted:it would be pretty messed up if the ring made frodo gently caress his dad Pretty sure Tolkien saw humans get gassed at the Somme
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Jan 3, 2021 06:10
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Pretty sure Tolkien saw humans get gassed at the Somme it would also be pretty messed up if the ring made frodo gas his dad
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Jan 3, 2021 06:17
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Frodo's dad died down at the docks.
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Jan 3, 2021 06:20
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Carthag Tuek posted:it would also be pretty messed up if the ring made frodo gas his dad wot's beans, precious?
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Jan 3, 2021 06:42
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An Hobbit's oven
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Jan 3, 2021 06:46
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The ents were super gay to the point where the entwives all left moved back in with their entmothers.
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I never watched Steven Universe because the fandom was insane. But I'm watching it now and it's actually surprisingly solid
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