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s*x n*mb*r 69 0.22%
w@@d n_mb_r 420 1.34%
Jeb! number 538 1.72%
Biden numbr 30330 96.72%
Total: 31357 votes
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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
gather round children, i am going to tell the tale of one of the most famous organizers of all time who successfully changed an entire empire through all of his organizing! his name was osama bin laden and he

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Brunch Covidian
Nov 21, 2020

by Pragmatica

Dolphin posted:

gather round children, i am going to tell the tale of one of the most famous organizers of all time who successfully changed an entire empire through all of his organizing! his name was osama bin laden and he

gently caress me

I have no right to love you as much as I do

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Loveshaft posted:

It really is great how Dore—a comedian in a loving garage—got so many breadtube and media idiots to expose themselves against M4A during a loving pandemic. He’s a household name now.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
nvm

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Dolphin posted:

gather round children, i am going to tell the tale of one of the most famous organizers of all time who successfully changed an entire empire through all of his organizing! his name was osama bin laden and he
:frogon:

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

bedpan posted:

ppl talk about future prez newsome in 2028 but they are all forgetting Biden 2024, Harris 2028, and Harris 2032. ol gavin isn't going to see "his time" until 2036 at the earliest.

no one thinks harris can win elections

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

atelier morgan posted:

ive never even watched jimmy dore's show i just know a loving narc who needs to go the gently caress back to dnd when i see one

i don't need a podcaster to tell me to get angry about things, i have eyes and ears and the state of the entire loving world in 2021

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

So who's at the force the vote actions today? Yesterday's video ended up inspiring me so I'm excited to see what they do today.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

papa horny michael posted:

no one thinks harris can win elections

will that stop the machine from trying though?

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


Gumball Gumption posted:

So who's at the force the vote actions today? Yesterday's video ended up inspiring me so I'm excited to see what they do today.

😏 💅

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Dolphin posted:

gather round children, i am going to tell the tale of one of the most famous organizers of all time who successfully changed an entire empire through all of his organizing! his name was osama bin laden and he

:wow:

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Maya Fey posted:

😏 💅

They didn't do a sit in yesterday because it would of been breaking the rules.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Gumball Gumption posted:

So who's at the force the vote actions today? Yesterday's video ended up inspiring me so I'm excited to see what they do today.

I was planning to go on twitter and search "Jimmy Dore" to remind people he's a grifter. Then for my second half, I was planning to do the same here.

Oragnizing is hard work, but it's worth it!

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
as far as i'm concerned the only useful organizing left to be done is organizing a spherical mass of plutonium in such a way as to induce supercriticality in the vicinity of maryland and virginia

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

Yossarian-22 posted:

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1345848219755024386

i love that aoc, newly awakened to the dirty realistic grind of politics and unwilling to engage in petty symbolic struggles, wants to do an impeachment...for two and a half weeks...or into the biden presidency? who knows but i'm sure it would get a lot done

Lmao, they know what's coming on the 6th.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Shipon posted:

as far as i'm concerned the only useful organizing left to be done is organizing a spherical mass of plutonium in such a way as to induce supercriticality in the vicinity of maryland and virginia

red state?

blue state?

yellowcake state

Jinnigan
Feb 12, 2007

We shall pay him a visit. There will be a picnic. Tea shall be served.
organizing is good, actually

Jinnigan
Feb 12, 2007

We shall pay him a visit. There will be a picnic. Tea shall be served.
building sustained longterm movements with leadership development, strong interpersonal relationships, and political education is important, actually

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

drjuggalo posted:

I dont know if the elites beat my mental but it feels like we’re already well past the rubicon, and just waiting for things to actually collapse now

yeah, we are just waiting to the elites to look down are realize the ran off a cliff 6 months ago

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Jinnigan posted:

building sustained longterm movements with leadership development, strong interpersonal relationships, and political education is important, actually
Ah but that sounds like work building institutional knowledge in the left due to decades of repression. Almost like there are no shortcuts to organizing a mass movement.

Jinnigan
Feb 12, 2007

We shall pay him a visit. There will be a picnic. Tea shall be served.

achillesforever6 posted:

Ah but that sounds like work building institutional knowledge in the left due to decades of repression. Almost like there are no shortcuts to organizing a mass movement.

surely we can just call for a general strike. how long can it take to organize a general strike? like a few days?

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

wont someone think of the money

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Jinnigan posted:

surely we can just call for a general strike. how long can it take to organize a general strike? like a few days?
And if we just yell at socialist orgs to do the work they'll do it and if they say "Well that's not how any of this works" we yell at them louder.

Like I know we are grappling with just how little time we have before we face ecological collapse, but stuff isn't just going to spontaneously happen and honestly I'm tired of the left flying by the seat of it's pants and having no actual strategy.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

achillesforever6 posted:

Ah but that sounds like work building institutional knowledge in the left due to decades of repression. Almost like there are no shortcuts to organizing a mass movement.

I'm sympathetic. I really am.

But this kind of rhetoric is being used more and more to defang decentralized movements. "Organizing experience" is being leveraged by bad actors to control what action is and is not within acceptable bounds, to the benefit of the status quo.

Surely you can see this?

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

bedpan posted:

ppl talk about future prez newsome in 2028 but they are all forgetting Biden 2024, Harris 2028, and Harris 2032. ol gavin isn't going to see "his time" until 2036 at the earliest.

lol you think biden will live long enough to reach reelection

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

achillesforever6 posted:

And if we just yell at socialist orgs to do the work they'll do it and if they say "Well that's not how any of this works" we yell at them louder.

Like I know we are grappling with just how little time we have before we face ecological collapse, but stuff isn't just going to spontaneously happen and honestly I'm tired of the left flying by the seat of it's pants and having no actual strategy.

theres no strategy because anyone in a "leadership" position has sold out

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

achillesforever6 posted:

And if we just yell at socialist orgs to do the work they'll do it and if they say "Well that's not how any of this works" we yell at them louder.

Like I know we are grappling with just how little time we have before we face ecological collapse, but stuff isn't just going to spontaneously happen and honestly I'm tired of the left flying by the seat of it's pants and having no actual strategy.

Which socialist org are we talking about here?

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Rutibex posted:

lol you think biden will live long enough to reach reelection

I sure hope so since I have a bet with a Republican who says he doesn't.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Eggplant Squire posted:

I sure hope so since I have a bet with a Republican who says he doesn't.

why would you make that bet

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


lumpentroll posted:

why would you make that bet

Because I think Biden has spent his entire life chasing this dream he's going to stick around and deny Harris the chance to fall backwards into the seat by shear will power and obstinance combined with whatever super medical techniques they use to keep our political leaders alive.

Jinnigan
Feb 12, 2007

We shall pay him a visit. There will be a picnic. Tea shall be served.

PhilippAchtel posted:

I'm sympathetic. I really am.

But this kind of rhetoric is being used more and more to defang decentralized movements. "Organizing experience" is being leveraged by bad actors to control what action is and is not within acceptable bounds, to the benefit of the status quo.

Surely you can see this?

what decentralized movement are we talking about here. are we talking about the massive BLM protests that happened this year? those were awesome, they involved some ~30,000,000 people across the country, including people sticking out their necks in very tiny very violently racist small towns. or are we talking about jimmy dore's plan to force the vote. offline participants: perhaps as many as 30? that's three tens, and that's terrible

Jinnigan
Feb 12, 2007

We shall pay him a visit. There will be a picnic. Tea shall be served.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

theres no strategy because anyone in a "leadership" position has sold out

quick, name three leaders that isnt an elected politician or in DSA

Jinnigan has issued a correction as of 15:39 on Jan 4, 2021

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Raskolnikov38 posted:

theres no strategy because anyone in a "leadership" position has sold out
I'll just use the DSA as an example since that is the socialist org I'm in; outside the staff it's all volunteer work, most of leadership are taking a ton of their free time doing this stuff while working some lovely job.


PhilippAchtel posted:

I'm sympathetic. I really am.

But this kind of rhetoric is being used more and more to defang decentralized movements. "Organizing experience" is being leveraged by bad actors to control what action is and is not within acceptable bounds, to the benefit of the status quo.

Surely you can see this?
I actually like the decentralized nature of things, but it needs structure; like I'm working with people in my chapter to form the basis of a platform for our chapter to adopt, that requires time and then ultimately buy in from the chapter to vote and approve of it. That's what is annoying me, don't just call out orgs to do the thing. Go to them, engage with them, and present something that can be voted on.

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




Assange embarrassed Dear Abeula, and the succ will die never getting over it.

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

Eggplant Squire posted:

I sure hope so since I have a bet with a Republican who says he doesn't.

Lmfao, he'll be dead or resign read: forced out within his first year. Harris was always the one, and isn't at the top of the ticket because Tulsi knifed her.

Enemabag Jones
Mar 24, 2015

Jinnigan posted:

what decentralized movement are we talking about here. are we talking about the massive BLM protests that happened this year? those were awesome, they involved some ~30,000,000 people across the country, including people sticking out their necks in very tiny very violently racist small towns. or are we talking about jimmy dore's plan to force the vote. offline participants: perhaps as many as 30? that's three tens, and that's terrible

Wait, I think I missed something, what did the BLM protests end up getting us that the FTV one didnt

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Post Ironic Cereal posted:

Wait, I think I missed something, what did the BLM protests end up getting us that the FTV one didnt

i thought the point of FTV was to force the debate regardless of whether it succeeded or not? why are you holding the democratic party's resistance to change in the face as a point against BLM?

Enemabag Jones
Mar 24, 2015

It's not against BLM but the fact is that even organizing huge crowds on a massive scale got us exactly jack and poo poo.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

StealthArcher posted:

Assange embarrassed Dear Abeula, and the succ will die never getting over it.

biden will 100% get assange to the us and lock him up forever

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
let's get some good succ going:

https://twitter.com/kaikahele/status/1264227693005991938

https://twitter.com/robkajiwara/status/1267222995371614209

https://twitter.com/RobletoFire/status/1250166519000113161

https://twitter.com/DavidNir/status/1268025483544985601

https://twitter.com/808constituent/status/1268115032727904256

https://twitter.com/DKElections/status/1250157332757131270

why am I posting about this Kai Kahele rear end in a top hat? well...

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1345960228764975104

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