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Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

Bumfluff posted:

My school does VB in KS3 and C# in KS4 so I use smallbasic for 7s and not done any home programming with 8s this year yet. (We do this as the main ks3 cs teacher before me knew a bit of VB, and my hod who is also a specialised cs teacher but prefers maths (is department of maths and computing) likes C#.) Reckon hod wants to change to python soon and I'm all for it.

Re: Teams. There just seems to be a lot of functionality missing that I think the it techs just haven't clicked the box to allow it. (Deleting student messages, scheduling meetings, restricting students file accessibility.) I'm using it for assignment submissions and stuff so I'm paperless but it just doesn't seem usable in its current state for live lessons.

https://get-help-with-tech.education.gov.uk/digital-platforms you could flag that up to SLT/IT staff. There's government funding to get your Office 365 running properly such as scheduling meetings and locking down privs properly. Ours is definitely good enough though I'm always in touch with the IT support about tweaks to improve things.

If your school have the money, https://www.clouddesignbox.co.uk/ seem great. One of them is in the Teams for Education group happily answering all my random queries despite us not paying anything.

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His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

TheRat posted:

The norwegian government has very strict rules on noise from wind parks, and there's still been a bunch of scandals with the private owners of wind parks trying to pay people to sign contracts forbidding them from complaining about it, or parks just breaking the rules anyway. It becomes a constant, distant humming sound.

I live in wind power central in Finland, those things are everywhere and mostly they are fine. But there have been complaints here from people going insane from the low level noise. It's not something you notice at once, infra sound can have wonky effects on people. The main problem is they've built certain plants far too close to inhabation, like 1km when it should me a minimum of 3km from a house. Keep it to more than 3km and there shouldn't be issues.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
He's a bloated alcoholic struggling to deal with bright lights pointed at him in his sober moments.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

He definitely does seem to have gotten more... boris-like over the past year. Which I don't understand why cos he hasn't been doing anything and he was DPP so he already knows the terrible secret of the home secretary.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Convex posted:

He is a soft boiled egg in a person suit, the nervousness is just his inherent wobbling from having a liquid yolk

This immediately got me thinking of a song by Everything Everything called "No Reptiles" which has the line "No reptiles, just soft-boiled eggs in shirts and ties".... so I looked up what the lyrics mean, and it turns out it's basically exactly what you're talking about : It's actually kind of nice to think that there are reptiles controlling everything but in reality it's just these wobbly soft-boiled egg people.

I think the more general theme of the song is something lots in this thread will connect with:

quote:

It’s written as if I’m rejected from society just about to do something awful. I wrote that at a time when I was feeling quite separate from, even against, society as a whole. I was feeling quite hateful towards my own country and my own place in the world, and feeling like I didn’t really like Britain or what it stands for. I don’t necessarily feel like that all the time, but I do sometimes.

The song has this theme of fat pouring down the streets and clogging every hole – that’s how I was feeling about the general public, me included. We’re just this blobby, inactive, privileged, big, pale blob, and I wanted to use this metaphor of this massive fat-tsunami washing through the city streets and going into the gutters. That was how I felt; it was how I felt about a big do-nothing society that hadn’t changed. It all comes back to being fat really… it’s like one of the things that you just see; I’m kind of fat, and I don’t like that about myself.

A few of my friends have become conspiracy nuts in the past few years, and I flirted with that idea for a bit, but I realised that it’s really romantic to imagine a world run by reptiles with a super-evil plan masterminding eveything. It’s much scarier, and much more likely, that the people at the top are just fat, bald, old men, like soft-boiled eggs, that are just weak-willed, with no strong feelings (good or ill). They’re lily-livered and easily swayed and quivering and wobbling. To me, that’s a horrible thought, but it also makes me feel guilty: if I was at the top, would I be a weak-willed, quivering, chubby overlord?

In terms of the song’s darker stuff, with the line “I’m gonna kill a stranger”, there is also the follow up line: “So don’t you be a stranger…”, which obviously means don’t be a stranger, don’t leave me, don’t go away etc., and it that way it’s almost a cry for help. But then it also means ‘I won’t kill you… if you’re my friend’. It’s got this double-edged feeling throughout. Then the song changes and I’m likening myself to a fat child in a pushchair, sort of helpless and inactive and no use to anyone in the world that needs help. I’m just idle, and no one wants to be idle, but we find ourselves in that position living in this country. We’re passive, and we just get out our phones and move on. I wanted to say that in a sharp, insulting way to maybe make people snap out of that, to make them nervous and embarrassed. It’s not horrifying, but it’s a bit cruel, and I wanted to be cruel to people listening, and to myself. But then I’m saying “It’s alright…” so it’s again this weird accusatory-slash-helpful tone.

The song ends with me saying ‘just give me one night, one moment to feel like I’m on the right path’, pleading to just feel like I am helping the world, that I’m not useless. I think people have definitely connected to that and that sentiment of not wanting to continue as a negative or passive force in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2RR8kEv-Y8

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


OwlFancier posted:

He definitely does seem to have gotten more... boris-like over the past year. Which I don't understand why cos he hasn't been doing anything and he was DPP so he already knows the terrible secret of the home secretary.

You'd have thought catching Covid-19 would have made him wise up to how serious it is, but like with Trump it looks like Damascus conversions are rare.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

His Divine Shadow posted:

I live in wind power central in Finland, those things are everywhere and mostly they are fine. But there have been complaints here from people going insane from the low level noise. It's not something you notice at once, infra sound can have wonky effects on people. The main problem is they've built certain plants far too close to inhabation, like 1km when it should me a minimum of 3km from a house. Keep it to more than 3km and there shouldn't be issues.

I live in rural western norway, and while it might be NIMBY I think it's incredibly depressing to see what it does to the nature I grew up hiking in. I find a hydropower drat much less intrusive than endless rows of giant buzzsaws

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Lol.

I was worried he wasn't gonna get a Pointless answer but he got there in the end

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

WhatEvil posted:

This immediately got me thinking of a song by Everything Everything called "No Reptiles" which has the line "No reptiles, just soft-boiled eggs in shirts and ties".... so I looked up what the lyrics mean, and it turns out it's basically exactly what you're talking about : It's actually kind of nice to think that there are reptiles controlling everything but in reality it's just these wobbly soft-boiled egg people.
Reminds me of the bit in Adventures with Extremists where after interviewing all of the conspiracy people he finally gets an interview with an unnamed ex-Bilderberg Grouper

quote:

He said that far from being fed up with hearing wild conspiracy theories about themselves, many of the Bilderbergers actually thoroughly enjoy it. He also said that, in all honesty, neither Bilderberg nor Bohemian Grove attract the calibre that they used to. The current members are getting older and older, and the prospective newcomers – the world leaders of tomorrow – don’t seem all that interested in getting involved.

‘Let’s face it,’ my deep throat had said to me, ‘nobody rules the world any more. The markets rule the world. Maybe that’s why your conspiracy theorists make up all those crazy things. Because the truth is so much more frightening. Nobody rules the world. Nobody controls anything.’
Which given their original mission statement of preventing another war by encouraging end of history free market capitalism is kinda lol@them.

WhatEvil posted:

It’s written as if I’m rejected from society just about to do something awful.
Me after breakfast most days of this past year.

TheRat posted:

I live in rural western norway, and while it might be NIMBY I think it's incredibly depressing to see what it does to the nature I grew up hiking in. I find a hydropower drat much less intrusive than endless rows of giant buzzsaws
The fish and frogs don't.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

WhatEvil posted:

This immediately got me thinking of a song by Everything Everything called "No Reptiles" which has the line "No reptiles, just soft-boiled eggs in shirts and ties".... so I looked up what the lyrics mean, and it turns out it's basically exactly what you're talking about : It's actually kind of nice to think that there are reptiles controlling everything but in reality it's just these wobbly soft-boiled egg people.

I think the more general theme of the song is something lots in this thread will connect with:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2RR8kEv-Y8

This is really interesting, thanks! I don't think I've heard it before, or at least I don't consciously remember it.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


im not sure on school timings

did they send kids back to school before closing the schools, thus fulfilling the worst prediction itt?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1346153400476573698

uh? pardon?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


Lefties hate the Union Jack because they hate Britain.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Lol that song is just a long form UKMT post, wonderful

E:


hes right you know, I get pissed off every time I see the Butchers' Apron

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I didn't notice it until he pointed it out but actually yeah does he lug it around with him? Where is he recording anyway? Sounds like a prison cell.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

TheRat posted:

I live in rural western norway, and while it might be NIMBY I think it's incredibly depressing to see what it does to the nature I grew up hiking in. I find a hydropower drat much less intrusive than endless rows of giant buzzsaws

yeah it's NIMBY as gently caress

sorry that your nice hikes are having to take second place to the hundreds of millions of people who'll be flooded out of their homes if sea levels continue to rise, I guess

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
https://twitter.com/ElleDuffy_/status/1346158910525345796

lol

biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke



There's something else in that video that pisses me off more

(It's Keith)

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



He's also wearing the flag with the way his suit is colour coordinated. Is that something these people actually do?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Julio Cruz posted:

yeah it's NIMBY as gently caress

sorry that your nice hikes are having to take second place to the hundreds of millions of people who'll be flooded out of their homes if sea levels continue to rise, I guess

:hmmyes:

Not to mention, I find giant windfarms beautiful, both on an aesthetic and human level. They're one of the few kinds of large-scale building projects that doesn't stoke the species-shame I feel constantly

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you don't like looking at wind farms that's a problem with your aesthetic sense not the wind farms.

Basically u like big green thing on a stick that waves around in the wind, but not big white thing on a stick that waves around in the wind???? gently caress offfff

wind farm is just a more useful forest

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
It's a shame we can't/don't have wind turbines made of some kind of organic material that could encourage the growth of epiphytes and form its own ecological niche. I'm sure there's a lot of reasons not to do this - like those materials not existing, and structural/tensile strength, and durability, but still the concept gives me a Kim Stanley Robinson vibe and I want the eco-future before I am an old man goddammit!

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

I gotta say, I didn't expect this to be the thread where wanting to preserve nature in the face of limitless global growth would be met with harsh hostility

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

If you don't like looking at wind farms that's a problem with your aesthetic sense not the wind farms.

Basically u like big green thing on a stick that waves around in the wind, but not big white thing on a stick that waves around in the wind???? gently caress offfff

wind farm is just a more useful forest
Tired of looking at bad stick, can't wait to go hiking and look at good stick.

People wouldn't care if they looked like this, despite that being an order of magnitude or so less efficient.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Oh isn't it just lovely

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD
https://twitter.com/jo31070/status/1346163586226417665

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

If you don't like looking at wind farms that's a problem with your aesthetic sense not the wind farms.

Basically u like big green thing on a stick that waves around in the wind, but not big white thing on a stick that waves around in the wind???? gently caress offfff

wind farm is just a more useful forest

I mentioned the Dagenham turbines and they're kinda freaky - the extremely flat terrain around there (and low-rise buildings making it impossible to see the bottom of them) makes it impossible to judge their size (which is huge, like jumbo jet wingspan huge). This size and the fact it means the blades seem to be spinning far too slowly gives them a really weird, ominous look, especially because the distance means they don't "move" right when you move around.

Then when you get up close, they're in the mostly-demolished old Ford plant and general wasteland along the Thames, and it does kinda make it look like they're somehow responsible for all the destruction around them.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

TheRat posted:

I gotta say, I didn't expect this to be the thread where wanting to preserve nature in the face of limitless global growth would be met with harsh hostility

why is it more important to preserve the nature of your hike than it is the icecaps at the north pole, or the African farmland threatened by encroaching desert, or the hundreds of thousands of miles of coastline around the world?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

TheRat posted:

Oh isn't it just lovely



That is actually beautiful, sorry about your brain-wrong

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Could be a cunningly folded Captain America flag though



or a cunningly folded Puerto Rican flag

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
sorry global poor, we can't do anything about the impending catastrophe because some moron in Norway is upset we might ruin their view

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Whether or not they're beautiful, wind turbines look better than traditional power stations by quite a margin, and unfortunately we've got to have something blotting the landscape.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1346142295188533248

If it was anyone else I'd suspect this was a masterful bit of shitposting, but Lammy is loyal to the core.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

TheRat posted:

I gotta say, I didn't expect this to be the thread where wanting to preserve nature in the face of limitless global growth would be met with harsh hostility

What’s your alternative method of energy generation then?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jakabite posted:

What’s your alternative method of energy generation then?

They did mention hydro earlier, while berating wind for destroying nature and wildlife, which... erm...

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Jakabite posted:

What’s your alternative method of energy generation then?

Boiling ones piss

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

TheRat posted:

I gotta say, I didn't expect this to be the thread where wanting to preserve nature in the face of limitless global growth would be met with harsh hostility

What do you think green energy is for?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

WhatEvil posted:

What do you think green energy is for?

In our particular case, exporting to the EU because we already cover our own needs through hydropower.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

TheRat posted:

Oh isn't it just lovely



Yes?

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Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

Jakabite posted:

What’s your alternative method of energy generation then?
Nuclear fusion. It's only five years away....

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